Michael Moore's tweet....

[jillan]

MMFlint RT @GottaLaff

Welcome to the Citizens United States of America.

[gateley]

1. Chilling. Our New World.

[jillan]

2. Hi Gateley - what a horrible nite!

[gateley]

3. I just feel sick.

Not only for the good people of Wisconsin, but for the future of our country. I think Michael Moore nailed it.

[jillan]

4. This was a hard one to take - I am sick too.

[PatrynXX]

45. been trying to not let it affect me

however think my subconscious brain says otherwise and giving me one helluva headache. Mostly because the spin machine is out there in forced with about 99 % fiction. Like hello we do have the Senate. and if anything legal happens scotts in a heap of trouble.

Big thing MSM made this about labor. Labor didn't become an issue until those who were recalled broke the law. Of course WI Supreme court that had a leader that can choke women to death if he wants... said nah he didn't... The recall was about people breaking the law, not about the Bargaining rights. There never would have been a recall if they hadn't broken the law.

[PatSeg]

20. So depressing

I could have taken a loss if it had been close, but this was devastating.

Hard to keep a positive attitude these days.

[WillyT]

5. Yep...

[snappyturtle]

6. I'm glad I'm as old as I am because I may not live long enough

to see the total demise of the country but it's coming
unless the electorate magically educates itself. That's
not going to happen soon.

I can't imagine what it's
going to take to rid ourselves of Citizens United.

Thanks for posting jillan.

[Cleita]

26. Me too. n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

27. Te country died before I was born...

Five years prior (born in 68). We have been in death throes for over 40 years.

[snappyturtle]

30. I really feel sorry for you because your generation was

never seen or experienced when times were pretty damn good.
imho Of course, I was a child but still things were possible.
Now...for the masses, not so much and I've depleted just
about everything and am scrambling at 64...I don't have the
energy I did have but I won't give up. I've always had a job,
since age 14, so I'm starting over once again. Good luck to you.

AND, you are right about '63....interesting...life began to
slowly erode.

[JDPriestly]

38. Yes. That is why we have to insist in huge numbers that Obama release

ALL the papers and documents related to the Kennedy and other assassinations of the 1960s and early 1970s.

Anyone old enough to have been in on the crimes is either dead or dying by this time.

Get the truth out there.

I do not believe that the Kennedy assassinations or some of the other assassinations of the period including that of Martin Luther King were sheer coincidences. That is absurd.

One assassination by a random, insane assassin in a 15 year period -- very believable, but three or more? No way. That is not an accident. That is not a coincidence. That is a coup, a government takeover. And it is time that the American people are told the whole story.

What are the odds, the mathematical probability of that many assassinations of liberal figures within that time period. How gullible are we?

[Dont call me Shirley]

40. And always the bushes are lurking by.

[snappyturtle]

59. I don't think that is sheer coincidence either. nt

[snappyturtle]

57. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you until now....been scrambling.

I could not agree with you more. I've always thought the
assassination rate was VERY odd. I think President Kennedy
with the help of Robert would have exposed the shadow
government...some would say I need to don my tin foil hat
but I do believe what I said. imho, of course.

[JDPriestly]

60. Not since the waning decades of the Roman Empire . . .

If you read the book Cleopatra, you will find the kind of spate of assassinations that we saw in the Kennedy era. And who knows what the story really is on John Kennedy, Jr.'s accident. I don't want to have too much of a tin foil hat, but John Jr.
was coming perilously close to having a political voice -- something that might have been viewed as very dangerous in some right-wing quarters.

We need to know the truth, and while I don't know what it is, I don't think that it is what we have been told.

[Mayflower1]

46. Just curious.

When were the "good times" you were referring to?

[JDPriestly]

55. Times were never good for minorities in the South,

but in the 1950s and 1960s, a family with a father who worked in a factory could live pretty well, educate their children, save for a pension and own a small house and a car. Those times were good compared to today.

Also, it was generally, with some exceptional periods, easier to get and keep a job. Keeping a job for some years was normal. People did not work temps. You got a job, and your boss trained you, invested you and wanted you to stay. Most employers advised new employees that they had to give two weeks notice before quitting. Imagine that today. Generally, employers hesitate to say that because it suggests that you have an oral or implied contract, and employers want to be able fire "the help" on a whim.

So, in some ways those times were worse, less technology, a less realistic populace, but overall they were better.

[snappyturtle]

58. The fifties were good for my family and me....until

the time of the Kennedy assassination and the full
engagement in the Viet Nam "conflict".

[abelenkpe]

33. Agreed

Was talking to several of my friends about that a few weeks ago. We're a bit younger but recognize society has been disintegrating pretty much our entire life.

Bummer that.

And just when I think the pendulum has begun to swing the other way something like last nites election happens to prove me wrong.

[catbyte]

35. I was just thinking the same thing myself

And I am ABSOLUTELY grateful that I never had kids.



Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

[tpsbmam]

44. I have to admit I've often thought the same thing....

but I have young people I know and love who I worry for, as well as the young I don't know coming up who might have stood a chance to go to college & be a physician or a lawyer or an educator who really educates. Now, if they're not born into the privileged classes, they'll find achieving goals like that more and more difficult, if not impossible for many.

But yeah, I have to admit I selfishly think at times that I'm very glad I didn't have kids who have to face this up and coming USA....I hope the revolution that occurs to take it back from the hands of the oligarchs isn't too far away. Sadly, it may take Americans a long, long time to fucking wake up!

[lonestarnot]

7. Word. Owned. Slave labor.

[stockholmer]

8. I am not a big Moore fan, BUT HE NAILED this one

[Logical]

11. What could a liberal not like about Moore?

[Wabbajack_]

19. Cause he's a Tigers fan maybe?

[stockholmer]

25. several things

1. He is extremely wealthy, worth well over $50 million dollars US (I have no proplem with this) yet claims to not even be a member of the 1% (400,000 dollars a year cut off), let alone the .01%.

2. He rips Wall Street (I do as well), yet has an intimate association on a financial level with Goldman Sachs.

3. He has been consistently anti-union when it comes to his own staff, as well as the workers on his magazine/media/film projects. His true persona as a boss came out at Mother Jones magazine, where he was sacked after just 4 months. Many of the staff despised the way they were treated by him.

4. Although he usually means well in his work, he has a pattern of misrepresentation in some of his films. For example, fabrications in his 1989 documentary, 'Roger and Me' cost him an Oscar.

5. IRS records show that Moore invested in major pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer, Merck, and Genzyme through his foundation despite publicly ranting (rightly so, IMHO) against such companies. Moore also invested in defense contractors such as Haliburton, Honeywell, and Loral, and energy firms such as Sunoco, Noble Energy, Schlumberger, Williams Companies, Transocean, and Anadarko.

[LittleGirl]

37. I read your links

and frankly, I don't care what they say. Michael Moore speaks for me and most liberals. If you have a problem with him, fine. I don't agree. That last link is a blog from an admitted blue dog, so whatever.

[JDPriestly]

39. I have no problem with wealth in and of itself.

Michael Moore's wealth is obvious. He earned it through making successful movies.

He should treat his employees well.

As far as his investments are concerned, those companies don't care who their investors are. Michael Moore invests in them because those are the companies that make money. He uses his money to educate the public about the issues we should all care about. If he invested in money-losing companies, he could not do a lot of the good he does. At the same time, the companies would not suffer from his lack of investment in the slightest. We would.

So I really don't care who or what he invests in as long as his investments permit him to communicate in the way he does to the rest of us.

Look at Wisconsin. The corporate money won out. Michael Moore is one of the few on the left who uses his money not just to support good candidates but to broadcast the message that needs publicity. So, I say more power to him.

If I were a multi-millionaire, you better believe I would invest my money so as to maximize returns and simultaneously turn the tables on the greedy by using my profits to enlighten and shore up the interests of the middle class and poor.

I'm all for what Michael Moore is doing and wish more capitalists would join him. But he does need to hire organized labor and treat those who work for him well.

[Bluenorthwest]

50. Number 4 is just hilarious, and frankly a right wing talking point devoid of cinematic knowledge

And aside from the artistic crudity of the criticism, the idea that a first time film maker from the mid west was so much as thought of for an Oscar is amazing, to contend it was his to lose and the industry rejected his accuracy is just crazy talk. Especially considering he has won the Oscar from the same voting membership. Just saying. He 'lost' an Oscar on his first film, made for no money, outside of LA or NY. Because the Academy did not approve of his standards, although they keep nominating and awarding him in later years....and considering Roger and Me won the ACE award (from editors) , Best from American Documentary Association, LA Film Critics Association Best Award, Best from National Board of Review, National Society of Film Critics, NY Film Critics Circle Award and on and on. The industry really snubbed that guy! They showed him! So did the audience:
Roger and Me cost $160,000 and grossed more than 6 million. That'l teach him!

[MrMickeysMom]

54. I haven't vetted this information, but consider this...

... If I bought into a mutual fund (which I have), I must really keep an eye on the portfolio of those investments. So, I, in fact, do have pharmaceutical stocks, and energy stocks, so I'm just as guilty as to how these large and small cap things are balanced.

I'm not sure there is a 401k employee enabled program that hasn't done the same with those investments. Very difficult to micro manage the only things that are supposed to replace the good ole pension system, which I never was able to get.

I am known by my deeds, and so is Michael Moore... I saw Roger and me in the 80's and I distinguish "misrepresentations" and what General Motors went on to do... I could see the real message of the film THEN and NOW.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

9. K&R

Thank you Michael Moore!

Keith Olbermann on "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission,Special comment"

[Phlem]

10. I tend to not trust

what I'm told anymore by the media.

It's the corrupt enabler "media" supporting a mega greedy corrupt "government" and joined at the hip to Corporations and "faith institutions/prisons" talking to the offspring of the "dumbing down of Merica" 1st and 2nd pass.

It's a trifecta in it's "Robber Baron" type state.

It's the variable that your told but is never quite accurate , until WE ALL buy into it.

I don't perceive this as an actual loss but more of a perfect display of voter suppression/another instance of GWB style election theft, that we are all familiar with but still some how haven't learned from.

How many more lives destroyed, families broken, futures despaired until we realize who we're dealing with people.

I know you don't want to go there, but what if it's already HERE!

-p

[caseymoz]

12. It certainly has changed the rules.

We're in a brand new country now. That doesn't mean improved.

[MADem]

13. I'm not ready to curl up and die. nt

[otohara]

17. I'm Ready to Curl Up and Dye

my roots are showing something fierce.

[MADem]

31. I actually, really, once saw a beauty salon by that name!

I laughed my ass off!

[catbyte]

36. I first saw it in the Blues Brothers movie

Carrie Fisher played Jake's deranged hair stylist ex-fiance, LOL.

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

[MADem]

52. There's a bunch of 'em!!!!! I did the Google and wow--

Detroit to LA to Rhode Island and then some!

https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=12&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=curl+up+and+dye

[Jamaal510]

14. As much as I want to believe America is the greatest country,

I'm starting to lose faith in its future and the competence of our voters and our media. Even though we have come a long way with things like Civil Rights, gay rights, and feminism, there continue to be conservative impediments to egalitarianism and strengthening the middle class. And far too many voters here are willing to put up with the GOP's regressive agenda out of sheer misinformation. It kinda makes me want to move abroad someday.

[MADem]

32. Imagine how the people on McCarthy's blacklist felt.

Imagine how the people who had to live their lives by looking for the "Colored" sign and avoiding the "Whites Only" ones felt.

Do not give up. Progress is often made in excruciating inches, not easy strides. And things aren't any better abroad--in fact, they're worse as often as not. The only thing that makes it more tolerable is that we are less invested in the politics of other lands, and in the case of third world environments, more tolerant of corruption and graft.

Can't give up--gotta move forward.

[glinda]

15. more like "Blighted States of Amerika"

[G_j]

16. kick

[go west young man]

18. Moore is exactly right as usual but it should be pointed out that the Citizens United decision

came from The Supreme Court headed by Roberts who was a Bush crony. The Democratic Party was weak and acquiesced and allowed Roberts to run the roost. Then we were weak and allowed Alito in. We did it to ourselves by being the corporate go along Dem's that we still are at the moment. The same way we blew our majority. So tonight's loss is really "our" fault. We need to wake up and realize that. Weak Dem's equal Republican victories. The rose colored idealistic glasses we constantly put on while supporting moderates who give away the store need to be removed if we ever want to take the country back. Roberts and Alito and the Kochs and Rove are laughing their asses off at us tonight and they know they can do it again and again because we always roll over. Grow a spine people and vote for hardcore Dem's like Alan Grayson and not these go along folks who have left us reeling.

[Bozita]

21. Money rule$. Everything el$e is ju$t drama to ju$tify continuing new$worthine$$.

[pansypoo53219]

22. do overs taint fair to the stupids.

plus. walker had a huge money advantage. HUGE.

[suffragette]

23. That about sums it up

And it even fits with so much of the chilling legislation passed in the decade that sounds positive or innocuous on the surface, but hides an ugly core.

[suffragette]

23. posting hiccup - deleted

[renate]

28. I love it!

I'm going to make a bumper sticker out of that "Citizens United States of America" quote--and I really think it could catch on.

[shcrane71]

29. Stolen elections.

Take back our media. Take back our elections.

[catbyte]

34. I'd like to ask Roberts how it feels to be one of the 5 people

who destroyed democracy in America.



Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

Edited for typo in subject line

[calimary]

49. Unfortunately he's too stupid to know.

After all, he's even too stupid to get the Presidential Oath of Office correct.

He botched it at Obama's inauguration. COMPLETELY. Our FIRST-EVER African American President and this idiot blew the soundbite of the century straight to Hell, for all time.

And it wasn't as though he had no advance notice, or any time to practice or anything like that.

john roberts is hopelessly and historically STOOOOOPID.

I wonder if alito still feels so certain that what Obama warned about CU during the State of the Union Address is still "simply not true." I was watching his mouth move and that's what he said, sitting there in all his regal arrogance. No you fucking DICK, what Obama said was simply and absolutely TRUE. Prescient.

[tclambert]

41. Haven't the Koch Brothers issued an arrest warrant for Michael Moore yet?

I just assume they have bought the authority to issue arrest warrants by now.

[Happydayz]

42. Are we just going to whine, or get to work?

There is nothing we can do about the Krotch (that's how I spell it) brothers or citizens united. So we might as well get to work, donate, register new dems, volunteer to phone bank, knock on doors etc. But whining is certainly not the answer and isn't going to win Obama a 2nd term.

[tpsbmam]

48. I like the way you think, Happydayz.....

welcome to DU!

(A little whining is okay though -- a large percentage of DUers work their asses off to make this a better country....including a number of DUers who went to WI to work their asses off to get Walker the hell out of office. So give folks a break when they want to come to DU to commiserate.....it's a good place to do it and to build up your moxie to go out keep fighting the good fight.)

[Happydayz]

53. Thanks for the welcome, but you and jillan are correct.

You have to vent sometimes, but I hope this encourages dems to fight even harder from now until Nov. It was just kind of annoying seeing so many doom and gloom threads regarding WI.

[jillan]

51. Both!! I think sometimes people need to see how bad it is before they

get motivated to do something about it.

Alot of us do work hard phonebanking and hitting the pavement.

[Faygo Kid]

43. My sentiments exactly. Thank you, Chief "Justice" John Roberts

I don't know right now how we stop the money avalanche, coupled with the disenfranchisement of so many. The Kochs, Roves et al sure got their money's worth with Chief "Justice" John Roberts. What a contemptible fraud. Even Rehnquist wasn't this much of a tool.

[mmonk]

47. I'm going to have to retweet that.

[BadSaratoga]

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