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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP Wants To Get Younger Generation To Agree To Cut Seniors' Social Security.
The GOP will do anything to get power to destroy the country as we know it. One underground meme they use is to convince you younger generation that seniors are robbing them. And this strategy is about convincing the younger GOP generation to agree that Medicare and Social Security must be cut, privatized or eliminated because they will not get it.
The GOP idea is to piss generations off at each other. And the GOP plan to fuck the younger people and get them mad at their parents is all part of their fragmenting America.
rgbecker
(4,834 posts)Without SS, who would have to come up with the $1200/mo that keeps Granny going?
glinda
(14,807 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)nt
MADem
(135,425 posts)Thing is, they don't realize that the only "benefit" of their cost-cutting will accrue to themselves--talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)that they will never see SS or medicare, so kill it off.
Then they put off ending it until it's safe-- after their parents and/or grandparents are dead and not getting it any more.
It's disgusting-- the rest of the world is trying to figure out how to expand the programs and we just kill 'em off.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)We're running up debt and the kids know that they're gonna get stuck with the bag.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)Or maybe taxes on corporate profits or hedge fund managers to reduce the defecit?
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)The point is we need to get serious about it before we hit our credit card limit.
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)Taxes on the rich are a joke. There is so much money out there it would make your head spin! Merely raising the cap on income over 250'000 would fix and expand social security.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)to keep us in debt. Banks with huge cash holdings do not want inflation that will weaken their holdings.
A simplified explanation that might make experts scream:::: If the Fed Reserve 'went away' and the U.S. government was then in charge of printing our own money instead of borrowing it from the Fed Reserve, we, as a country would be debt-FREE, but we'd have much greater inflation that the BANKS who hold a lot of OUR CASH do not want. The Fed Reserve didn't come to be until 1913, not all the long before the Great Crash. We as a nation got by without a Fed Reserve for a very long time.
Who runs the Fed Reserve Board you ask? Bankers.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)tritsofme
(17,399 posts)CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)It's great! I thought it would be about the MIC & the obscene spending but it wasn't. Moore 'invades' other countries to bring their best ideas back to our country. The wonderful thing about it is that many times, the Europeans would say, "But this was your idea. We got it from America."
We tossed those good ideas in the garbage bin & are pursuing an everything-for-profit model, now.
Absolutely fab movie! Highly recommended!
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)Zurich last month. With about 100 other people. They clapped at the end. I cried. great movie.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)Moore was hospitalized for pneumonia and didn't get a chance to promote the film. He had many, many publicity opportunities and they had to be canceled.
Great movie!
Go Bernie!!!
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)Maybe that's why most people I know don't know about it. I'm telling everyone about it.
Go Bernie!
Akamai
(1,779 posts)the following is an article on Michael Moore's illness from Salon.com
From: http://www.salon.com/2016/02/10/michael_moore_could_have_died_last_week_trying_to_get_back_to_just_breathing_is_enough_of_a_burden/
"Michael Moore almost died last week. He got severely ill with pneumonia and ended up in the ICU. Things didnt look good, he posted to social media at the time. This week, he updated fans on Facebook by saying: Trying to get back to just breathing is enough of a burden.
"He had been working to support efforts to bring justice to Flint, Michigan, in the wake of the water crisis in his hometown. He had offered an impassioned endorsement of Bernie Sanders for president. And he was also promoting his first film in six years, Where to Invade Next, which hits a wide release in theaters this week.
"Moores hospital stay comes after a tumultuous year. Hes recovering not only from a serious illness, but also from a range of personal attacks. In the midst of these challenges he is also launching one of the most important films of his careera film that offers the most spirited revolutionary politics we have seen from Moore yet."
Go Bernie!
Paulie
(8,462 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Divide the working class against each other on the basis of "identity" and the owners skate and make off with ALL the money. Old as the hills indeed.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)middle-class' daily economic struggles.
Divide and conquer... The easy part is the distracting Americans with enough uneasiness, insecurities, fear and hate so that Americans simply don't have the time or energy to be properly informed ON THE ISSUES. It's a problem I see for us economic fairness and anti-corruption idealists that works to the GOP's advantage; it is the 'lowest common denominator' propaganda that the GOP uses. They take complex issues, but twist them to make them very simple for the idiots to absorb, settle on and sense that they are informed... Abortion, SNAP, Soc. Sec. War, Oil, Border Security, Education, Big Ag.. Every big issue can be boiled down in a way to make lazy-thinking Americans vote against their own best interests.
It's just evil, really.
glinda
(14,807 posts)CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)A very young woman, making the comment that old people shouldn't get free money just cuz they're old. I wanted to respond, "Do you work? Do you ever look at your pay stub? That money isn't free. I've paid into SS for 45 years."
If you were born after 1980, all you've ever heard is that unions are bad, SS is going broke & trickle down works.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)I'll have to remember that one! I've paid in since 1976.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Regardless of party.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)u chose
Remember the Tea Party failed bc they never could grasp what "governing" entails.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)The tea party didn't "fail". Much as I hate the bastards, they have successfully mainstreamed the far right of the political spectrum, moved the center, only to have the "center" shifted right. Now we have rationalizations that a quarter pound corporatist shitburger is better than a third-pounder.
I choose none of the above.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)I fear any politician that is willing to work with the GOP in their endeavor.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Grandiose Gubermint that governs without "Politicans"
In Politics,,, its always a matter of the Greater Good.
Fucking the elderly, disabled, and dependent children is for the greater good. See what I fear.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)like I said good luck with ur quest.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)And the DLC, BlueDog Third Way republicans calling themselves Democrats? Where do they really stand?
packman
(16,296 posts)From hippies vs. "Regular Americans", Free Choice vs. Pro Life, Blacks vs. Whites, American citizens vs. Illegal Aliens, Gays vs. "Family values", and so on and so forth.
Repukes are masters of this - it makes up their base- creating the enemy (or perceived enemy) within. Now they are dividing the nation again with their youth vs. elderly campaign. Soulless bastards that they are.
Jackilope
(819 posts)In Bernie Sanders campaign! That will endear them to those of us at 55 +!
It isn't just GOP. Didn't Bill Clinton have a pact with Newt? Do you really trust HRC to not work with the GOP "in the spirit of compromise"? Heck, Obama put SS on the table.
I truly don't trust any candidate but Sanders on SS and Medicare.
Zambero
(8,965 posts)They may have paid into this system all their working lives, but let's not quibble over minor details. Screw those entitlement-grubbing seniors here and now, and then we'll proceed to screw you younger folk down the road. A road map for the perfect right-wing Utopia, where everyone is uniformly miserable with no redress to an evil intrusive gov't. "Equal and fair treatment for all!"
Iggo
(47,565 posts)Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)they won't have to worry about growing old themselves!
Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)If you do nothing, Social Security will pay out 80% of it's expected benefit. The reason is that people pay in as it goes along. Therefore, Social Security has a 20% problem which could be easily corrected by rearranging how the cap on income subject to Social Security is arranged. You can and could also expand the benefits too. Propagandists against Social Security are misleading people when they say it will go broke. Social Security WILL NEVER GO BROKE. It is a matter of the percentage of expectation that can be paid with the resources paid in each year plus any built up reserve.
By the way, one should take a look at all of the advisors and potential Treasury Secretaries for all of the candidates to see how they view Social Security. Check out whether they want to means test it. Check out to see if they want to privatize it etc..
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)The oldest scam in the book. People should be wise to this steaming pile already.
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)crappy educational systems that present a very limited view of history and do not teach hot to think any longer. Keep people ignorant and misinformed and you can make them do almost anything.
Journeyman
(15,038 posts)as much as it is intended to protect the individual from the ravages of poverty.
meow2u3
(24,772 posts)There, I fixed the headline for you to hide the fact that those rethug scumbags looted the Social Security trust fund and refuse to pay it back.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)why would people who will never receive a pension protect the pensions of others?
seanjoycek476
(54 posts)The GOP is truly evil.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)The ones I talk to feel they will never be able to rely on / get SS. And they are definitely in favor of eliminating or reducing it.
It's working. They're too young to see the payoff, and they think they are "paying for nothing".
I remind them that they will never "get rid of it".: it's too big a cash cow for them to steal from. It will always be "enforced" and "reformed" and its just that there will be less and less payout. Think of paying into it (either "private" or "reformed" doesnt matter) but only collecting when you reach 80.
So they need to fix that by electing people who will fight for THEM and not take (steal) from the people.