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Fast forward to 2016 and Obama finishes his second term. Who do you want the next President to be? (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 OP
Looking for Martin O'Malley to run for the Democratic nomination. Arkana Jun 2012 #1
I agree with you TuxedoKat Jun 2012 #7
Thirded. He's great. I'm proud to have cast two votes for him already. jpljr77 Jun 2012 #8
Carcetti for President... Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #37
Here here! Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #49
+1 n/t FSogol Jun 2012 #17
Yes! Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #21
Another vote for O'Malley! charlie and algernon Jun 2012 #33
Who is Martin O'Malley? Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #41
He's the current governor of Maryland. Arkana Jun 2012 #47
Thanks. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #53
It will be Andrew Cuomo Boxcar Willie Jun 2012 #71
Dear lord, no. Arkana Jun 2012 #75
I hope I'm wrong Boxcar Willie Jun 2012 #78
Any REAL progressive you can find!!!!! LongTomH Jun 2012 #2
WI election is stolen, and you don't think 2012s is going to be stolen as well? shcrane71 Jun 2012 #3
Let's quit beating that drum. LAGC Jun 2012 #39
There's an elephant in the room. That's what's beating the drum. nt shcrane71 Jun 2012 #44
Pee Wee Herman. Might end up voting for him in November, actually. Erose999 Jun 2012 #4
Dennis Kucinich! snot Jun 2012 #5
Howard Dean, or Liz Warren. Volaris Jun 2012 #6
I would vote for Howard Dean... AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #15
If we can get Howard Dean, the Progressive Democratic fighter sadbear Jun 2012 #23
Hillary if she wants to. Historic NY Jun 2012 #9
yes, Hillary +1 IcyPeas Jun 2012 #67
A crafty , gutsy, fearless fighter. NCarolinawoman Jun 2012 #10
Alan Grayson, Al Franken, or Bernie Sanders. I'm cool with all three. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #11
ooo! AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #16
That's sort of the point. (snicker) HopeHoops Jun 2012 #19
sorry FirstLight Jun 2012 #12
Russ Feingold? a la izquierda Jun 2012 #13
it doesn't matter who WE want, it's what the PTB wants.. frylock Jun 2012 #14
No "PTB" from any political party wants Jeb Bush. nt stevenleser Jun 2012 #72
Clinton and Warren are the two names that jump out to me at the moment Bradical79 Jun 2012 #18
Elizabeth Warren. jillan Jun 2012 #20
Let's see if she can win a Senate seat first ... Bake Jun 2012 #30
YES! nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #36
There we go Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #40
An anti-war progressive would be nice...for a change. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #22
Wetzellbill/Kurovski 2016 Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #24
Doesn't matter as long as they're progressive and tough. Hillary would be nice. craigmatic Jun 2012 #25
Hillary Clinton Taverner Jun 2012 #26
+1 SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #29
I'd consider someone like Warren or Gillibrand....... AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #27
Ask me it 2015. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #28
We need a populist ticket! Cuomo-Schweitzer 2016!!!!!!! Clintonian96 Jun 2012 #31
Sounds like a winner to me, Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #35
cuomo is no populist. he's a privatizer. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #43
Satan. L0oniX Jun 2012 #32
O'Malley's lookin good bhcodem Jun 2012 #34
Can a Democrat win three Presidential elections in a row? Ter Jun 2012 #38
Hey, we got Republicans in 1980, 1984, and 1988.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #56
You could argue that we should have won Clinton/Clinton/Gore OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 #57
Am I really the first to say Biden? MelungeonWoman Jun 2012 #42
I love Joe, but.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #51
It didn't stop McCain from running. nt AJTheMan Jun 2012 #59
Didn't help him with winning, either. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #68
No one said Al Gore, either OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 #58
I think Gore, Hillary and Dean are thoroughly fed up with the idea of going through that again. stevenleser Jun 2012 #73
We need to be thinking of a WOMAN at the top of the ticket! CTyankee Jun 2012 #45
Howard Dean. Howard Dean. Howard Dean. Dawgs Jun 2012 #46
Howard Dean didn't really care that much about my voting rights in 2008.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #55
Notwithstanding your dislike of Dean, there are other positions for which he's better suited OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 #64
Certainly. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #69
Martin O'Malley sounds like a good choice. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #48
Hillary - just so I can watch freeper heads detonating nationwide edbermac Jun 2012 #50
Her: UrbScotty Jun 2012 #52
Grayson/Warren, Warren/ Grayson librechik Jun 2012 #54
That's the ticket! bluedigger Jun 2012 #74
One vote for Elizabeth Warren for President. nt AJTheMan Jun 2012 #60
I'd vote for Tim Ryan since we are wishing. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #61
Unfortunately, people will confuse his name with that other Congressman Ryan. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #70
If anyone thinks it's going to be someone other than Biden, they're dreaming. Angleae Jun 2012 #62
Refer to Post #51 OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 #63
How many VPs of 2 term presidents ran and lost the nomination? Angleae Jun 2012 #65
How many VPs of 2-term Democratic Presidents ran and won the GE? OmahaBlueDog Jun 2012 #66
Biden's going to be 74 by that time. Arkana Jun 2012 #76
I want hillary but we will likey get a republican.n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #77
Rachel Maddow n/t bluethruandthru Jun 2012 #79

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
1. Looking for Martin O'Malley to run for the Democratic nomination.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jun 2012

If he does, I'll vote for him.

I entertained the idea of Deval Patrick for a while but he's from Massachusetts and would get pilloried in the press. I wouldn't mind Brian Schweitzer (Montana), but I think he's too small-market to win.

Basically anyone but Andrew fucking Cuomo.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. Yes!
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:18 PM
Jun 2012

I love how he totally demolished Bob McDonnell when the two were being interviewed together. He did it calmly and right in his face.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
53. Thanks.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jun 2012

I think I remember seeing him on MSNBC (I can't remember whose show). He seems like a reasonable kind of guy. I just didn't recall the name.

 

Boxcar Willie

(75 posts)
78. I hope I'm wrong
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jun 2012

but it looks like it will be him:
-name recognition
-great pedigree
-popular in NY (can raise a LOT of money)
-well spoken and smart (inoffensive)
-seasoned politician with great political machine behind him
-good looking with good hair

that's all you need for the nomination...

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
3. WI election is stolen, and you don't think 2012s is going to be stolen as well?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:51 AM
Jun 2012

Don't divert attention to the investigation that is needed right now.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
39. Let's quit beating that drum.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jun 2012

What did you really expect when being outspent 11-to-1?

The real surprise was that it was even so close (within 10 points) with all that corporate money sloshing around...

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
15. I would vote for Howard Dean...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

I had worked on his campaign, and thought he was terrific.. I just don't know that he would run again..

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
10. A crafty , gutsy, fearless fighter.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jun 2012

Perhaps Hillary, if she still has the energy.

I like the governor of Maryland, but I need to know more about him.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
12. sorry
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jun 2012

I honestly don't feel very confident that we will make it that far... things are dismal out here in the real world...

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
18. Clinton and Warren are the two names that jump out to me at the moment
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jun 2012

Honestly, I didn't know who Barrack Obama was 4 years before his election, so I imagine that could change quite a bit. There's other people I like, but just don't think they have the political smarts to actually win, or they're viewed as too "extreme" to have a realistic shot.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
27. I'd consider someone like Warren or Gillibrand.......
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jun 2012

But if we win 2012, we're definitely going to have a lot of trouble in 2016 because they'll be ready for us then.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
28. Ask me it 2015.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jun 2012

I'm focused on 2012, right now. Between now and '16, a whole crop of possible candidates could pop up.

Clintonian96

(1 post)
31. We need a populist ticket! Cuomo-Schweitzer 2016!!!!!!!
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jun 2012

We need to make gains in another region of the country. So we should have a northeastern-midwestern ticket. That way we keep New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico. And maybe we can pick up Arizona and Montana. We'll get independents and rev up the Base with social liberal/moderate populist Cuomo. And with popular populist Montana Governor Schweitzer we will capture the midwest and maybe Georgia and South Carolina.

Rhiannon12866

(205,282 posts)
35. Sounds like a winner to me,
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jun 2012

But it saddens me that we have to now play these geographic games rather than just choosing the best candidates for the job. For example, Clinton-Cuomo might work for us, but it'll never happen. And how did Bush*-Cheney ever come about?

Welcome to DU, Clintonian96! It's great to have you with us!

I had the privilege of seeing/hearing Bill Clinton in person in 2006 when he came to my little burg to campaign for my congresswoman (now senator), Kirsten Gillibrand! He's a brilliant speaker and so charismatic that it was SRO in my traditionally red district.



 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
38. Can a Democrat win three Presidential elections in a row?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jun 2012

Sure, but it's rather unlikely. 2016 will probably give us a Republican.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
57. You could argue that we should have won Clinton/Clinton/Gore
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jun 2012

-- Gore did get more popular votes, but fell short in the EC, was robbed in Florida, etc.

1932-52 4 x FDR & 1 by Truman

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
51. I love Joe, but....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jun 2012

a) The media keeps on playing the whole "Biden is stupid and gaffe prone" story despite the fact the man is brilliant (one of the best foreign policy minds in Washington) and affable--just a likeable personality with a good back story. Yes, he could use his "inside voice" a bit more but that's about it.

and

b) He'll be in his 70s by the time 2016 rolls around. Yes, after Reagan that's not necessarily a deal killer, but combine it with the common misconception perpeuated in a), and it's pretty much a no-go.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
68. Didn't help him with winning, either.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jun 2012

People saw his VP choice and knew if the old man bought the farm we would be in a world of hurt.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
73. I think Gore, Hillary and Dean are thoroughly fed up with the idea of going through that again.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jun 2012

Can't say I blame them. A Presidential campaign seems like the emotional equivalent of a divorce, death of both of your parents and a cancer diagnosis all at the same time.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
45. We need to be thinking of a WOMAN at the top of the ticket!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:48 AM
Jun 2012

Not that I am dissing good progressives like O'Malley. I think he's terrific. But our mindset has to move beyond the male model of president, if we are going to change the dynamic. And to do that requires a strong, progressive woman.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
55. Howard Dean didn't really care that much about my voting rights in 2008....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jun 2012

....so I'll pass on that. Sorry.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
64. Notwithstanding your dislike of Dean, there are other positions for which he's better suited
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 08:13 AM
Jun 2012

like replacing Bernie Sanders or Pat Leahy when one chooses to step down.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
69. Certainly.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jun 2012

I don't want Dean to stay out of public life all together, I'm just not as in love with him as some on this site after having to live through the 2008 Florida primary mess, which I think he could have handled infinitely better.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
48. Martin O'Malley sounds like a good choice.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jun 2012

Dynamic, energetic, a rock star (literally....)

And he's kept Maryland in pretty decent shape throughout the Great Recession, much better off than most states. He's kept the quality of education Maryland top notch.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
70. Unfortunately, people will confuse his name with that other Congressman Ryan.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jun 2012

Poor guy.

I like him, though.

Angleae

(4,482 posts)
62. If anyone thinks it's going to be someone other than Biden, they're dreaming.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:00 AM
Jun 2012

Unless, of course, Biden doesn't run for the nomination in 2016 like Cheney did 4 years ago.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
63. Refer to Post #51
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jun 2012

I agree with that post - it won't be Joe.

The name I hear most often is O'Malley. Personally, I'd like to see Hillary take one more shot at it.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
66. How many VPs of 2-term Democratic Presidents ran and won the GE?
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jun 2012

Gore won, but he lost
Mondale lost to Reagan
Humphrey* lost to Nixon
Wallace** lost to Truman

How much further back should we go here?

* Humphrey was VP from '65-'69 for LBJ, who was really a 1+ term President, having become President upon the death of JFK in 1963.

** Henry Wallace was FDRs VP from '41-'45. FDR ultimately served just over three terms. Harry Truman had been VP for about to months when he became President. Thus, two VPs serving a two term + President ran against one another. Neither John Nance Garner nor Henry Wallace sought the Democratic Party nomination in 1948. Wallace ran as a Progressive.

Bottom line -- in the recent history of our party, the only VPs who get elected are those who became President due to the death of another President.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
76. Biden's going to be 74 by that time.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jun 2012

He'd be older than Raygun running for a second term. He won't do it--Joe's going to retire.

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