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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:24 PM

Other than revoke "Obamacare" vs Improve the ACA, what will be the issues between Clinton V Trump?

They are close to opposites on everything.
My crystal ball does not see the issues all that well.

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Reply Other than revoke "Obamacare" vs Improve the ACA, what will be the issues between Clinton V Trump? (Original post)
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 OP
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #1
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #2
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #3
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #4
Angel Martin Apr 2016 #5
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #6
Johonny Apr 2016 #7
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #8
sofa king Apr 2016 #9
dembotoz Apr 2016 #10
Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #11

Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:53 PM

1. Immigration (read: Border Wall), Terrorism/Security; The Economy

The Deficit
Student Loan Debt

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:59 PM

2. Both of those are good issues. I'd like to see infrastructure rebuilding.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 PM

3. Issues we should actually be discussing would include climate/greenhouse gas

infrastructure, post-secondary education affordability (not just college, but para-professional and trade school as well).

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:08 PM

4. That is a great list. Thanks.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:52 AM

5. Trade and trade agreements

will be a big issue for Trump.

Another thing I expect to hear a lot from Trump is political reform, special interest campaign contributions, special interest donations, play for pay etc.

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Response to Angel Martin (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:40 AM

6. He certainly has talked about that, and it is part of his right wing populist platform

Though it is not one of the issues that make me sing, it has also had some play on our side of the aisle.
Thanks.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:59 AM

7. Given Trump's huge gender gap... I would say abortion rights, equal pay, among other minority issues

Donald doesn't do issues and the American media isn't that interested in them as well so he can safely avoid issues so long as Hillary doesn't drive issues. I imagine Hillary will drive home issues and force the GOP to defend their abortion stance as well as other things. Once again Trump polls horrible with just about every group that isn't a white racist male. I doubt Hillary or Bernie will let that fact slide.

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Response to Johonny (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:04 PM

8. Trump is classic demagogue that appeals to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using

rational arguments (let's call them issues).

His border fence proposal appeals to the fear of the outsider, the non-white, and thus becomes an issue of isolation and racial protection. I do not that will play well with a majority of voters.

The Democratic Standard bearer will use it like a club.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:25 PM

9. There won't be any real issues.

Trump is neither competent enough nor patient enough to discuss actual issues. He'll continue grandstanding and running on Reganesque homilies, and smears and insults. If he ever gets dragged into a discussion of policy or how disastrous his proposed policies would certainly be, he loses bigger than he's already going to lose. Issues detract from the adulation and praise which his narcissistic psyche requires in ever-increasing doses, so it's certain he either won't go there at all or look foolish if he tries.

In the vacuum of intellectual thought which will define the general, Mrs. Clinton won't want to delve too deeply into the issues, either. Her problem will be winning back the support and enthusiasm of the enormous pool of new socialists that Bernie Sanders' campaign has created, so she doesn't dare discuss what's going to be done due to the realpolitik landscape. Instead she'll have to run an even sunnier and more optimistic campaign than President Obama did in '08.

Trump is running a black-and-white campaign in a mostly brown-and-gray America. It's a guaranteed loss so long as Mrs. Clinton does not mire herself in a one-sided discussion of issues at which Trump can aim his 140-character darts.

So it's going to be a stupid race to the bottom where the one who shows the least hatred wins in a landslide.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:01 PM

10. outsider vs insider

i am expecting hrc is vulnerable here

bernie struck gold here and her wallstreet image could sink her.

her experience will mean nothing if tainted in slime

i live in a very read area and i already hear this stuff and it is already working....
i fear november
we might be toast

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:10 PM

11. I see that it may be an issue.

But this will be more than balanced by Republican's antipathy to women and minorities.

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