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Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:39 AM

33 Things I Hate About This Election, in No Particular Order


33 Things I Hate About This Election, in No Particular Order

By Ijeoma Oluo / The Establishment
April 19, 2016

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/33-things-i-hate-about-election-no-particular-order

1. When Bernie supporters use “whore” in the pejorative when referring to Hillary

2. When Hillary Clinton said she keeps hot sauce in her bag

3. Marco Rubio’s suits

4. Every reference to Bernie marching with MLK

5. Hillary’s AIPAC speech

6. Donald Trump

7. Everyone who tells me it’s my duty to vote for one of these assholes

8. John Kasich’s haircut

9. Every white woman who says that it’s your feminist duty to vote for Hillary

10. Every dude who says women only vote for Hillary because she’s a woman

11. The fact that after every primary I have to hear clips of Trump’s gross speeches over and over even on fucking NPR

12. That time Hillary pretended to be your abuela

13. Every time a politician tours a poor black neighborhood like they’ve landed in a National Geographic documentary

14. Every time somebody asks Jonathan Chait what he thinks about the election

15. Every dinner party when somebody goes, “Sooo ... how about this election?” and you can’t legally stab them in the eye with a fork

16. Every former high school classmate that you didn’t know was a Trump supporter

17. Every dude who has tried to explain to me how elections work

18. Every time Carly Fiorina vividly imagined seeing video of human fetuses being torn apart

19. That time all the dudes were talking about their dick sizes

20. Every dude who has told Hillary to lower her voice

21. Every poll about which candidate is more “likable”

22. Every reader who is now adding up complaints to demand that I insult Hillary or Bernie a few more times to make this listicle fair

23. Every has-been celebrity who emerged from obscurity just to destroy our childhood with their candidate endorsement

24. Every person who has guessed at my political affiliation from a single tweet and proceeded to lecture me on why that assumed affiliation is wrong

25. Every joke every candidate has tried to make

26. Every person who says that we have to respect the beliefs of racist, hate-filled Trump followers

27. Every person who has used “illegals” in their political posts when referring to living, breathing human beings

28. Every transphobic “bathroom bill”

29. Everybody who has ever used the phrase “American values” without irony

30. Every white dude who thinks that his support of Bernie is a civil rights revolution

31. That time I felt like I had to defend Megyn Kelly

32. Every person on Twitter who thinks they can annoy you into supporting their candidate

33. Bill Clinton

Ijeoma Oluo is the Editor-At-Large of The Establishment. A Seattle-based Writer, Speaker, and Internet Yeller, her work has appeared in The Guardian, The Stranger, New York Magazine, Huffington Post, and more. She was named one of the Most Influential People in Seattle by Seattle Magazine. She's also a columnist at The Seattle Globalist.

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Reply 33 Things I Hate About This Election, in No Particular Order (Original post)
marble falls Apr 2016 OP
apnu Apr 2016 #1
PoliticalMalcontent Apr 2016 #2
B Calm Apr 2016 #3
marble falls Apr 2016 #5
Cary Apr 2016 #14
lapislzi Apr 2016 #4
oberliner Apr 2016 #7
lapislzi Apr 2016 #13
oberliner Apr 2016 #15
lapislzi Apr 2016 #24
oberliner Apr 2016 #26
djean111 Apr 2016 #27
Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #30
djean111 Apr 2016 #33
lapislzi Apr 2016 #41
marble falls Apr 2016 #46
Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #42
oberliner Apr 2016 #45
marble falls Apr 2016 #47
oberliner Apr 2016 #50
Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #49
Cary Apr 2016 #16
oberliner Apr 2016 #6
marble falls Apr 2016 #8
oberliner Apr 2016 #10
Cary Apr 2016 #17
oberliner Apr 2016 #22
Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2016 #21
oberliner Apr 2016 #25
snooper2 Apr 2016 #52
liberalnarb Apr 2016 #9
oberliner Apr 2016 #12
Cary Apr 2016 #18
MidwestTech Apr 2016 #37
mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #19
oberliner Apr 2016 #23
mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #29
alarimer Apr 2016 #34
whathehell Apr 2016 #11
Cary Apr 2016 #20
whathehell Apr 2016 #28
Kittycat Apr 2016 #32
Kittycat Apr 2016 #31
HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #35
ejbr Apr 2016 #40
HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #44
JEB Apr 2016 #36
marble falls Apr 2016 #48
ejbr Apr 2016 #38
AlbertCat Apr 2016 #39
TacoD Apr 2016 #43
rock Apr 2016 #51

Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:05 AM

1. LOL!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:25 AM

2. Amen.

K & R

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:35 AM

3. Sounds like you may sit this election out.

 

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Response to B Calm (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:44 AM

5. Absolutely not. For four reasons, in no particular order:

1. I support Bernie all the way to Philly.
2. I support Hillary if Bernie doesn't make it past Philly.
3. The platform is important and I believe Bernie has drawn a lot of issues out that most voters will support even if Hillary and the DNC don't at this moment.
4. The Congressional elections are too important to ignore even if I didn't support any of the Presidential candidates.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:08 AM

14. Nice to hear

I have nothing against Bernie Sanders and have unequivocally said I would support home 100% were he the nominee. We have 2 great candidates.

But I must say that strident Sanders supporters have been atrocious. It is good to see posts like yours from more sober Democrats.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:43 AM

4. All of the above (esp. #15)

Still voting "D" in November, no matter what.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:51 AM

7. Seriously?

 

Why do you want to stab people in the eye with a fork just for asking about the election?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:07 AM

13. Get over yourself.

Because no one's ever said, "just shoot me" or "I wish I could punch Ted Cruz in the face" in a joking manner. Because joking remarks about feeling irritable are always to be taken as literal truth or intention.

Yes, I go around with a sharpened fork in my purse in case someone asks me an annoying question. Amazing I haven't been arrested yet.

Next question?

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:09 AM

15. Huh?

 

I just was taken aback at the violent nature of that particular sentiment. I also don't get why someone asking about the election would elicit such an angry reaction.

Why does it annoy you when someone asks about the election? It seems like that would be a positive thing.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:29 AM

24. Frankly, it's because I really don't want to talk about it.

Or, to be clear, I don't want to talk about my own views. I'm always happy to assist anyone who wants information about registering to vote or anything like that. I've helped in voter registration drives, driving people to the polls, and other party business.

I'm also happy to direct people to factual material so people can make up their own minds.

But, I really don't want to be drawn into a discussion that winds up with me having to reveal who I'm voting for or why. And I definitely don't want to be drawn into a discussion that I know beforehand is going to devolve into a racist rant or some conspiracy theory from the other person (because I've been down this road before with him or her). I'm also tired of people assuming they know how I plan to vote based on what I've said in the past.

I learned a long time ago that secret ballots are secret for a reason.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:30 AM

26. Ok, fair enough

 

That makes sense.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:32 AM

27. So - don't click. Or just leave a thread.

 

This is a message board where we discuss stuff. Your participation, like everybody's, is completely optional.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:40 AM

30. Or you could respect this person's decision to click for whatever reason that may have been.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:57 AM

33. Has nothing to do with their decision to click, and everything to do with their displeasure that

 

others are posting things they do not wish to see or respond to.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:26 AM

41. DU is different

I can be reasonably sure that most people here (in GD, anyway) are not going to try to engage me in an exercise that's so anathema to my own views that it's going to leave me exhausted and frustrated. I've stayed out of the the GDrimaries forum for that very reason.

I've found a lot of peace of mind deleting people from Face Book and using the Ignore feature.

If I'm participating in a discussion (as I am now), it means I find value in it. There's no value in me expressing my preference for a candidate and having to listen to diatribe about how said person is a liar, communist, "shrill," misogynistic, or whatever. I've heard it all.

Donald Trump is a buffoon. Ted Cruz is a dangerous ideologue. John Kasich is a wolf in wolf's clothing. Nothing more to be said. I'm voting Democratic in November.

Peace to all.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:29 PM

46. Certainly sounds a very reasonable request to me. I agree with your right to privacy.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:34 AM

42. It's called "hyperbole"



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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:03 PM

45. But what is wrong with asking about the election?

 

Why would that lead to such a negative and/or angry reaction?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:34 PM

47. Seriously? I'm tired of all the shrill and uncivil partisans of both Hillary and Bernie ...

I really do not want to hears the average person's unsolicited opinion on Trump or Cruz or Clinton or Sanders. I think its a crying shame how behavior has devolved on the part of Democrats. I have come to expect it from the GOP. But us, too?!?!?!?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:42 PM

50. I like hearing from other people on the election

 

I'm always curious to know where folks are coming from. That's part of why I am so actively engaged on DU.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:41 PM

49. Spend ten minutes alone in a room with my mother-in-law and you'll understand. n/t

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:10 AM

16. Don't let the rabble affect you

They are marginal. They are losers.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:50 AM

6. She wants to stab people in the eye with a fork just for asking about the election?

 

That seems a bit unhinged.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:53 AM

8. I think you take this tooooo seriously.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:02 AM

10. That one just jumped out at me as being needlessly violent

 

I get that the list is tongue in cheek to some extent, but why be hostile to someone (to the point of violent fantasies) who just asks about the election?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:11 AM

17. Right.

Righteous indignation makes you the voice of reason.

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Response to Cary (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:27 AM

22. Don't we want people to be talking about the election?

 

Isn't that the point of being politically active? I am not indignant. I am just asking why someone asking about the election would give someone else the urge to stab that person in the eye with a fork.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:17 AM

21. They're not asking about the election, they're seizing the floor to start pontificating on it.

A nice dinner ruined because Uncle Blowhard feels everyone is entitled to HIS opinion.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:29 AM

25. Got it

 

I didn't really get that implication. Personally, I think the more we get people talking about the election, the better.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:04 PM

52. I think she meant Spork, not Fork...Little less damaging

 


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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:01 AM

9. My main problem with this election is that there are no messages of hope this year.

 

As much as I love Bernie, none of the candidates are optimistic about America like they were before. Instead of "I have never been more hopeful about America." what we here from candidates on both sides is "We're fucked unless you elect me!"

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:07 AM

12. "America has never stopped being great"

 

That's kind of a hopeful message from Hillary.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:12 AM

18. And it's true.

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Response to Cary (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:14 AM

37. no... it's not

we haven't been "great" for about 30 years.
We certainly aren't now.
Name one, ONE POSITIVE thing the US is number 1 in on any metric that matters to quality of life, economically, etc.
We've fallen behind because government stopped doing it's job... taking care of it's citizens.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:13 AM

19. That's kind of a feel good, BS message IMO.

No matter what type of "list" you look at--from education to civil rights to children living in poverty to health care to income inequality and on and on...
the US comes in way behind many other western industrialized countries.

I don't think it's true and I don't know whether we change it unless we really turn around who gets and wields power in this country.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:28 AM

23. Maybe, but the other poster was saying there were no messages of hope

 

Even if you think it is BS, she is trying to present a message of hope there.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:37 AM

29. The message of hope would be to acknowledge how far the US has fallen

on so many measures of once greatness, and then propose plans for improvement.

But that would require support for getting money out of the election process and limiting the gazillions
spent lobbying Congress.

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:03 AM

34. I don't think there is anything to be optimistic about.

A lot of people are not experiencing anything of the economic recovery.

Add to the fact that, despite empty promises of "hope" and "change", nothing ever seems to change.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:06 AM

11. Ijeoma seems to have a problem

with white people...The legitimacy of any viewpoint held by one, is, in her view, diminished if not demolished, by their skin tone.

Perhaps we should no longer have views, or at least the temerity to state them.

All I can tell Ijeoma is "good luck" electing Democrats without white women.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:16 AM

20. It seems to me Jeoma made a good faith effort

To irritate everyone.

It seems to me she thought we all needed it and while I am irritated I think she's right.

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Response to Cary (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:33 AM

28. Lol, how old is Ijeoma?

If she's hot in Seattle, I'm betting she's on the very sunny side of 30......You may need to be irritated by Twenty somethings, Cary, at Sixty Something, I'll pass.


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Response to whathehell (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:55 AM

32. Let it roll, lol

If you can't laugh at yourself, you know? She hit everyone.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:53 AM

31. 31. Megan kelly

That one really makes me feel like I needed a bath. Sigh

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:03 AM

35. Interesting list...

 

Although I don't quite get the big deal about Hillary and hot sauce. She's been a collector for years....

The ironic part is that she’s actually telling the truth. Clinton actually does carry Tabasco sauce and red pepper flakes in her purse wherever she goes. What’s more — when she was First Lady, Clinton reportedly kept the White House pantry stocked with more than 100 bottles of hot sauce at all times.


So she's a fan of hot sauce, what's the big deal ~



MSNBC did a little blurb about it a few days ago....

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Response to HillareeeHillaraah (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:16 AM

40. Really?

Then I owe her an apology. Hmmm... Go figure.

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Response to ejbr (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:56 AM

44. ....

 

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

36. 34. When people list their pet peeves while ignoring the actual issues. nt

 

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Response to JEB (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:41 PM

48. Jebus Chrisp, who's average supporter in even the DP isn't ignoring certain issues ....

Doesn't the concept of Hillary Clinton wooing Bernie Sanders supporters and visa versa require both groups in both instances to ignore a certain amount actual stands on issues?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:14 AM

38. I take offense to some of these,

but K & R nevertheless. Points taken.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:15 AM

39. 34. posts like these.

 

and yay for JEB and post 36.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:40 AM

43. LOL @ #22 (nt)

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:58 PM

51. ... BSers use “whore” in the pejorative ...

Made me laugh as I thought, oh, yeah, not the good way! OK, I'll try to get through the list once my eyes clear.

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