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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:35 AM Apr 2016

A Trump-Clinton general election poses a question: Who does America hate least?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Bobbie Jo (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Momentous victories in Tuesday’s primaries drove Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump ever closer to a November face-off in which the strongest argument each can make for election is the threat posed by the other.

Together, Clinton and Trump are the two most unpopular presidential candidates in memory, and both are moving to improve their images for the general election.

But they are so well-known, and operating in such a polarized political environment, that their efforts may only serve to tinker around the edges.

Both candidates issued calls to unity within their parties in their victory speeches Tuesday night, then aimed at each other. That suggested a general election battle of brutal negativity, which threatens to alienate voters and further increase partisan polarization.

The winner may be the candidate America hates the least.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-clinton-analysis-20160427-story.html

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A Trump-Clinton general election poses a question: Who does America hate least? (Original Post) morningfog Apr 2016 OP
Anyone who believes Clinton will win easily is delusional tabasco Apr 2016 #1
If republicans 'rally behind their candidate and turn out in droves to defeat Clinton' and pampango Apr 2016 #7
Sanders will not be the nominee tabasco Apr 2016 #11
I agree. However that does not mean that republicans would not have rallied behind Trump to defeat pampango Apr 2016 #14
your kidding yourself Robbins Apr 2016 #19
"you're" n/t tabasco Apr 2016 #20
My great worry is that Trump will be able to run to the left of her on trade and militarism. marmar Apr 2016 #8
He's talked casually about using nuclear weapons. So, no. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #17
He's also talked about the disastrous trade deals and foolish foreign wars. marmar Apr 2016 #18
He's made some disastrous deals that have resulted in several corporate bankruptcies. pnwmom Apr 2016 #22
And H1-b's and SS Yuugal Apr 2016 #23
I'll take any bet on who's delusional if you really believe your words. whatthehey Apr 2016 #15
Sensible people? LMAO. tabasco Apr 2016 #21
So take my money then. Come on do you REALLY believe what you're saying or not? whatthehey Apr 2016 #24
Authoritarian followers think we all are like them and will fall in line if they put rhett o rick Apr 2016 #25
Great, huh? TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #2
If so called liberals sit this out...the blood will be on their hsnds beachbum bob Apr 2016 #3
You have is ass backwards. If HIllary can't build a winning coalition against fucking trump, morningfog Apr 2016 #4
Up to responsible adults not playing beachbum bob Apr 2016 #6
Um. No. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #9
The responsibility will be on the DNC/Clinton Democratic party tabasco Apr 2016 #12
Absolutely...a replay of 2000! tallahasseedem Apr 2016 #13
What do you mean by "so called liberals"? nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #16
It's not close really, Trump's negatives exceed Clinton's. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2016 #5
What a choice. None of the above. nruthie Apr 2016 #10
Hate 'em both. For different reasons. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #26
Obviously they like Hillary more than Sanders. Elections have consequences. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #27
Locking Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #28
 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
1. Anyone who believes Clinton will win easily is delusional
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

The republicans will rally behind their candidate and turn out in droves to defeat Clinton. Meanwhile, liberals left behind as the Clinton/DNC Democratic party has shifted rightward have little motivation to vote, other than to keep Trump from winning.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. If republicans 'rally behind their candidate and turn out in droves to defeat Clinton' and
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

Democrats do not 'rally behind their candidate and turn out in droves to defeat' Trump, then republicans 'deserve' to win.

Unfortunately our country and the world do not deserve to have Trump win so I hope that republicans do not get what they 'deserve'. I will do what I can do see that does not happen.

Sanders is much more liberal than Clinton. I believe republicans 'will rally behind their candidate and turn out in droves to defeat' Sanders as well. It might take them a while to switch from demonizing Hillary to demonizing Bernie, but it would not take them long to do that.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
11. Sanders will not be the nominee
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

It's FAR past time for Clinton to start trying to honestly engage liberals in her own party and independents.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
14. I agree. However that does not mean that republicans would not have rallied behind Trump to defeat
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie if he were our nominee.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
19. your kidding yourself
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:28 AM
Apr 2016

clinton is enemy of progressives/liberals.her attitude is i don't need anyone who voted for sanders.

at least in november what she and DNC did to sanders voters will be done to her voters.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
20. "you're" n/t
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

marmar

(77,090 posts)
8. My great worry is that Trump will be able to run to the left of her on trade and militarism.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
17. He's talked casually about using nuclear weapons. So, no. n/t
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

marmar

(77,090 posts)
18. He's also talked about the disastrous trade deals and foolish foreign wars.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

So, umm, perhaps yeah.


pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
22. He's made some disastrous deals that have resulted in several corporate bankruptcies.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

That's not an option when you're President.

And neither are thousands of miles of a foolish wall between the US and Mexico.

 

Yuugal

(2,281 posts)
23. And H1-b's and SS
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
15. I'll take any bet on who's delusional if you really believe your words.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

Because what such an election really comes down to is sensible people getting over grade school level grudges and deciding who they think is capable of running a government, and if you think significant numbers of people outside low-info angry white male nativists will make that choice and say Trump, then there's somebody who's delusional for sure.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
21. Sensible people? LMAO.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
24. So take my money then. Come on do you REALLY believe what you're saying or not?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. Authoritarian followers think we all are like them and will fall in line if they put
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

enough pressure on us. They don't understand that some of us will fight the bullying all the way.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. Great, huh?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:41 AM
Apr 2016

It's devolved to this point.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. If so called liberals sit this out...the blood will be on their hsnds
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016

And they will bear a great deal of responsibility for what conservative will reek on America....fortunately... It's just sour grapes right now... and I expect commonsense will overtake their egos...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
4. You have is ass backwards. If HIllary can't build a winning coalition against fucking trump,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

it's on her. It's up to the candidate to build a winning coalition.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. Up to responsible adults not playing
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

I'm taking my ball home...when I can't get my way...sorry...

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
9. Um. No.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

Sorry.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
12. The responsibility will be on the DNC/Clinton Democratic party
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

which has become a somewhat less malevolent version of the republican party.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
13. Absolutely...a replay of 2000!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:17 AM
Apr 2016

It's creepy that this is happening again...be vigilant folks!

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
16. What do you mean by "so called liberals"? nt
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. It's not close really, Trump's negatives exceed Clinton's. n/t
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

nruthie

(466 posts)
10. What a choice. None of the above.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
26. Hate 'em both. For different reasons. n/t
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
27. Obviously they like Hillary more than Sanders. Elections have consequences.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
28. Locking
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:56 AM
Apr 2016

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