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Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:01 PM

I want to know how a candidate I have never donated to, or volunteered for

and never signed up for anything remotely related to her has gotten her hands on my home address? I don't want her correspondence. I REALLY want to know how she got my address?

She has the intestinal fortitude to ask me for money. I've been told to fuck off, now you're begging me for money. No chance in hell.

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Reply I want to know how a candidate I have never donated to, or volunteered for (Original post)
onecaliberal Apr 2016 OP
onehandle Apr 2016 #1
UtahLib Apr 2016 #7
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Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2016 #2
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #43
NWProf Apr 2016 #56
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hfojvt Apr 2016 #95
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onecaliberal Apr 2016 #5
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yardwork Apr 2016 #53
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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:02 PM

1. I sent it. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:05 PM

7. LOL, you're killing me!! eom

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:39 PM

96. You sneaky bastard

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 PM

2. Voters lists are public information.

If you are a frequent voter (they're called "super voters", the more likely you are to receive targeted mail from a candidate, regardless of whether or not you have donated or volunteered for that candidate.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:34 PM

43. This is the correct answer.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM

56. If the solicitation has a prepaid envelope, then...

by all means send the request back with a well thought out response as to why hell won't be freezing over soon. This helps in two ways because the campaign pays for the return postage (cheap revenge for unwanted mail spam) and it helps to keep the post office functioning.

(As they used to say back in the '60s: when the universe hands you lemons, make lemonade. They said a lot of other things back then. Most of them are best forgotten...)

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Response to NWProf (Reply #56)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:33 PM

155. I would happily put a fucking stamp...

 

..on that request and include a nice letter telling her to keep her begs to those who support her. I have even stopped donating to some of my favorite groups that have "stood with her". Especially those that are supposed to stand up for women's rights....they will never be on my list again.


Standing with Bernie

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:38 PM

95. or if you have donated to any major candidate

or to the DNC, etc. You are much more likely to get a request for money if you are a known donor than you are if you are a known voter. DNC sends me surveys too, but I never get around to sending them back. I kinda doubt if they want the survey as much as they want the check. They say "send $10 to cover the cost of processing the survey" as a hook.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #95)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:38 PM

142. Candidates sell donor lists and email lists

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 PM

3. Her campaign buys lists, like it buys astroturfers.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:16 PM

135. All candidates buy lists or use the local party copy.


The lists can be pricey, but essential if you want to have an effective ground game

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 PM

4. Stuff everything from the original mailer into the postage paid envelope & send it back.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 PM

5. I did that with a few choice words.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:20 PM

18. Find a box... fill it with rocks and slap that envelope on it...

 

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:48 PM

53. Why would any Democrat suggest doing that to another Democrat?

I wonder sometimes.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:09 PM

75. I thought we weren't Democrats. I thought we were Berniebros. Which is it?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #123)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:03 PM

129. That made me laugh so hard....

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #75)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:47 PM

127. You're not "real" Democrats.

Just "shut up and hand me your votes" Democrats.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #75)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:20 AM

161. Link where I ever used that term or apologize. Put up or shut up.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:22 PM

87. Because I can't stomach her.

 

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Response to yardwork (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:53 PM

109. Don't sweat it

 

Wall street will pick up the tab.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:41 PM

122. Why would one democrat send another spam mail?

 

Add a few cinder blocks to the Clinton Victory Fund. maybe they can use them to build an actual base.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:04 PM

6. Someone that you corresponded with either rented out their mailing list or sold it.

This is very common in campaigns.

And politicians do not have to tell you when they sell or rent out your invormation.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:05 PM

8. I want to know how Sanders' campaign sent TWO texts to my cellphone

 

when NOBODY except my family has that number.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:35 PM

141. The city has the number, and will sell them to political parties

They charge you for the processing.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:05 PM

9. She put a chip in your head and now knows all your thoughts.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:04 PM

67. LOL

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Response to treestar (Reply #67)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:14 PM

82. The Truth is Out There!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:41 PM

98. I bet you...

 

the missing emails are on that chip

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #98)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:43 PM

100. Brilliant!!!!!

Nobody is looking in there!!!!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #100)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:45 PM

101. Oops, I've said too much.

 

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #101)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:45 PM

102. Brock is coming to get you!!!!!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #102)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:49 PM

108. Don't be silly

 

Got to run, someone is knocking on the door

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:06 PM

10. I have gotten correspondences at my home address from Hillary and Michelle Obama both

I have no idea how, I just always assumed they got it from Obama's lists. The DNC probably has all of the addresses of Obama's supporters on file somewhere. Or Dem voters in general.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:07 PM

11. What's even worse, is she told all of us where you live.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:07 PM

12. It's a conspiracy. The system is rigged against you.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:08 PM

13. Jesus, you really hate her, dont you. Can you tell me when this started, seriously, I am curious

Did it start recently during this election season or earlier?

Can you trace much of your attitude to random, general things you have hears on and off over the years in the media?

Do you hate mail from Jiffy Lube or Target the same way?

I dont mean to make light of this, I truly cant understand it.

I am more liberal than any ten of most here, support Bernie, always have, but would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat if I have to for obvious reasons.

I was around, aware and paying attention to everything the Clinton's did in their 8 yrs in the WH, am and was aware of all the sexual misconduct accusations against Bill, I believe most of them, and I find his and her politics to be far to much to the right for my liking.

Yet, I dont dislike either of them so much that I would elect a fascist like Trump or Cruz, not in a million years.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:09 PM

34. thank you Jackie. You exhibit progressive thinking. I'm the same. Hillary first, but would vote Bern

I have no hate for either of them.

the hate of some Bernie supporters is difficult to fathom and I think hints at something a lot darker. I suppose they'd be happier with a trump presidency so they can complain about the senate votes that allowed him to get into a manufactured war.

I'm truly disgusted.

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Response to MariaThinks (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:10 PM

36. I am Bernie first, but yes. I was reminded of how hard it was to win in the 60's against

Nixon, Vietnam.

If we had packed up and walked as so many here are threatening to do, we may very well still be fighting in Vietnam.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:17 PM

39. so true

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:06 PM

71. So McGovern was nominated as a real "anti-war" candidate

And Nixon pulled the rug out from under him by shutting down almost all the war before the election. In November 1972, there were only 16,099 servicemen left in Vietnam (I was one of them)..Nobody got very charged up about it and the peace negotiations were very close to being finalized. Without any traction from an antiwar sentiment, McGovern lost to Nixon 49-2.


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Response to 1939 (Reply #71)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:07 PM

73. Are you trying to say the anti war effort wasnt a MAJOR reason why the war was ended?

when it was



REALLY?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #73)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:47 PM

105. The anti-war sentiment was the reason LBJ pulled out of the primaries and began negotiations.

Nixon was stuck with a losing had and began the pullouts. He did it very slowly and on his timetable, not the demonstrators time table. He was hoping (slim hope) that Vietnamization would work and that South Vietnam could hold the fort after we left. He was trying to buy time to build up the Vietnamese. You can see that by the size (and location) of the various incremental withdrawals. The antiwar demonstrators were an annoyance and a distraction to Nixon, but never forced his hand. As he said in 1968, he had a plan to get out of Vietnam and he did it.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:28 PM

40. I can't speak for the posited, but I can speak for myself:

 

First: I think she's where she is due to name recognition mainly and a lot of political maneuvering. She came back in with a fool proof winning plan (even if that meant states and super Pacs played dirty tricks and illegal shit).

Second: we have had President Obama. Because he's a Dem, he's gotten away with so much more than a Reoublican ever could... Shoot he passed their health insurance bill. He's used bombs indiscriminently. And he tells us his biggest mistake is Libya (which we all hear is Clinton's baby).

She's bought and sold a hundred ways to Sunday and she's really not all that Democratic... She even comes to social issues or the $15/hr at the last second. Fracking Queen of the world, while we are looking at another record setting temperature year.

We need a leader desperately and she isn't it by far. So do you burn it down and say, F-you Anerica? And be young enough to pick up the pieces after OR do you allow more and more of a oligarchy to run the country? And allow it because it's a Dem? It's been awful hard to really bring light to complaints of Obama because of his historic presidency and the wing nuts making birthed issues. We will get the same shit all over again with her.

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Response to glowing (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:30 PM

41. So you say burn it down, right?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:38 PM

44. Would you rather the slow frog march?

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Response to Phlem (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:40 PM

45. Disgusting

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #45)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:42 PM

47. Say what?

I don't have anything against Hillary, I just don't believe a word she says as a politician.

There's a difference.

Gender has no effect when it comes to a well connected corporate politician.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #47)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:44 PM

49. You are advocating a GOP white house and that is disgusting

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:58 PM

58. Oh yea, that's exactly what I said.

In the 10 plus years I've been here, I've never heard that. That never gets trotted out ever. That isn't going to be done again this election at all.

So the DNC and Hillary have no skin in this game? It's all the Sanders' supporters fault? You should have been here the last midterms. The DNC decided they needed Republican votes and put up a bunch of Republican friendly Democrats for open seats. They all lost. Progressive leftist bills made a great win however.

So guess who's fault it was for none of the Democrats getting elected. The left base, apparently they didn't vote some say. Don't how they could have ever come to that conclusion. I know I like to shoot myself in the foot as often as possible. But wait a minute I did vote and have all my life "D" but that doesn't matter at all does it. Leftists Progressives got the blame.

Could it have possibly been the DNC's fault? Nooooooooooooooooo, never, strike the thought immediately!

The Thirdway have been running the show since before Bill Clinton and now Republicans have both houses of congress.

You're really going to blame the left base for that? Not the DNC cause you know, they're supposed to be running the show.

When'd you sign up 2016? So you know it all huh. You were here the first time Hillary tried this huh. You know all about it.

Give me a fucking break.



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Response to Phlem (Reply #58)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:59 PM

60. My mistake, so you are voting for Hillary if Bernie loses, good.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #60)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 PM

61. Oh does she automagically get me vote? Seems like a lot of Hillary supporter don't care.

Or don't want it. Have you been on DU?

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Response to Phlem (Reply #61)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM

64. Hillary? this is not about Hillary or YOU, do you get that yet?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #64)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:04 PM

66. I'm sorry, did you just ignore everything I said?

Typical.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #66)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:06 PM

70. I DIRECTLY addressed it, you are making this about you and Hillary, do you see why it isnt?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #70)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:09 PM

74. your a fucking joke.

2016 and it's just that fucking simple? Did you lose your job when NAFTA came around?

Sorry I don't play blackmail.

Take your grade school reasoning elsewhere, because that's the fucking reason we're in this mess.

Jeeeeeeeeebus H Fucking Christ!

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Response to Phlem (Reply #74)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:10 PM

76. So your job is why women can all go to hell, minorities, Muslims, etc. How sad that you are like

this.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #76)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:15 PM

84. You just don't fucking get it.

Since you weren't here for it try reading some history. Goodby.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #84)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:58 PM

113. *Goodbye

 

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Response to Phlem (Reply #74)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:56 PM

112. *you're

 

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:12 PM

79. Sorry, doing a bit of some multi- tasking.

 

Hmm, do I believe Trump or Hillary will
Make my life any better? No, they don't care. Both are power hungry, ego-maniacs. She
Clearly doesn't want my vote one bit, so I kind of have "Fuck You" attitude toward her. trump should be checked quite a bit and he may actually get us our progressive, liberal congress who actually make the laws to do shit for us by 2018. That would be something Clinton will NOT do. She's not exciting now, and if you thought Obama had a hard time, just y'all wait.

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Response to glowing (Reply #79)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:14 PM

83. So you are on board with Trump...got it. I just am not used to finding GOP supporters on

liberal message boards.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #83)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:15 PM

85. wow, fear mongering much?

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Response to Phlem (Reply #85)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:24 PM

88. It's not fear-mongering. It's the plain and simple choice.

And the "let's let a right-wing nut get a elected so The People(tm) will be inspired two years in two rise up and rebel by electing a super-progressive Congress" schtick that the previous poster is advocating
trump should be checked quite a bit and he may actually get us our progressive, liberal congress who actually make the laws to do shit for us by 2018.

has already been tried...in 2000. And that worked out so well.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #88)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:48 PM

107. In 2000? Where?

I lived through 2000 and there wasn't anything that was done, except for 300,000 DEMOCRATS voting for Bush in Florida. You know the DNC run Democratic party got 300,000 Florida Democrats to vote for George Bush. Had absolutely nothing to do with the left, but we got the blame.

Z

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Response to zalinda (Reply #107)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:15 PM

120. There were a LOT of "democrats" and "liberals" advocating for Nader,

who supported that bullshit idea.

And no, Trump is a right wing piece of shit who will only cause more right wing pieces of shit to get elected -- not fewer.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #120)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:07 PM

144. And your girl encouraged him to run. eom

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Response to zalinda (Reply #107)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:25 PM

139. Nader denial lives. The FL votes that voted for Nader gave us

BushCheney. Thanks

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #139)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:06 PM

143. No, the 300,000 Democrats in Florida who voted for Bush, gave us Bush.

Get your facts straight. If those 300,000 Democrats hadn't voted for Bush, Nader wouldn't have 'spoiled' the election. Put the blame where it belongs.

Z

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #83)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:54 PM

110. Didn't say I was for him. I'll most likely vote Green.

 

But not voting Dem for the first time in FL has consequences.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #83)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:52 PM

156. Have you thought about auditioning at the Improv?

This is some funny shit.

Who's on first?

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Response to glowing (Reply #79)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:26 PM

90. +100x10

 

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Response to glowing (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:13 PM

80. Excellent!

America is burning down...

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Response to glowing (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:59 PM

115. +1

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:37 PM

93. We need a Clinton Haters Anonymous group on this board.



Help people with their illogical hatred of them. I was also around for the Clinton years and they were a hell of a lot better than Reagan or Bush.

Me, I am not that into Bernie Sanders, but he IS my second choice

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #93)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:35 PM

121. Or just offer this for submission...

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #121)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:44 PM

126. Butthurt Incident Report: A political candidate sent me some mail

I didn't like.

Action Taken: Instead of throwing it away like a regular person (recycle, please!), I made a post on the DU detailing the butthurt incident because it must be a CONSPIRACY that I got mail I didn't like.



This primary can't be over soon enough....

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:50 PM

128. I started getting Clinton appeals in late December 2015

 

Weirdly just after Bernie’s campaign reported a security breach to the DNC (but the Clinton campaign, who would have similarly noted the breach, never mentioned a thing).

Yet only 1 campaign got castigated. ..

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:08 PM

14. At least the Clinton that is bugging you has never destroyed your life. A close friend

Had her life ruined when Bill Clinton and Janet Reno signed off on paperwork regarding the med marijuana issue.

Lynnette Shaw was forced out of her chosen profession of managing Med Marijuana clinics, and the end result was that her Social Security funds were stripped away from her Social Security account as well. This has never happened before to any American citizen - not even people who were drug king pins!

Last year, a judge finally absolved Shaw of any claims of the Federal Government against her. But the last few years have been very difficult. With any luck she will not lose her house this week, but saving it will require a miracle.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:42 PM

22. That is truly terrible. I'm sorry for your friend. I hope her house can be saved.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:10 PM

35. i am sorry for your friend.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:12 PM

15. I would like to know how they get my unlisted phone number.

I got a robocall from John Morganelli (candidate for AG in PA) every night at dinner time.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:45 PM

25. Unlisted phone numbers get called

because they dial every number in an exchange.

So, if your number is 555-3131, the dialer (used to be a person) Calls 555-31 00-99

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:57 PM

28. With me it's always the Heating & Air Conditioning companies. Why won't they leave me alone?????

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 PM

63. computers dial numbers in order

No actual phone numbers are input, just set the computer to dial advancing one number at a time. Some are not in service, keep going to the next one.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:15 PM

16. Instead of

making a Federal case of it, just screaming for attention, why don't you quietly unsubscribe to anything you get from her? Would seem like a better use of your time, and mine.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:17 PM

17. I've gotten mailings from the Ohio Republican party and phone calls.

The phone calls are kind of funny. Lots of confusion, lol. I got on someone's list somehow.

Caller: Would you like to take a survey?
Me: Sure
Caller: Do you agree that the EPA should be stop harming businesses with unnecessary regulations?
Me: No, of course not.
Caller: What? How could you say that?!
Me: I'm just answering your question! What kind of bullshit poll is this?
Caller: (hangs up)

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:43 PM

23. Good response.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:47 PM

27. At one point, I got on a Michele Bachmann list

and I could not get off.

I had fun with the in-person callers though. I was never mean, but they got some truly bizarre answers on some of their more open-ended questions.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:58 PM

29. I like to play with RW push-pollers. I bat them around a bit before letting them go.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:03 PM

32. That is fun to do

I have given some truly weird answers to some of them. My husband too.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:24 PM

19. Go to your County Register of Elections website. Nice shiney button on there says " you can buy our

Data " no joke.

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Response to pkdu (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:43 PM

24. Wait, WHAT?!?

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:58 PM

59. Yep...check it out. Nt

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:46 PM

103. It is all in the public record.

You can look up your friends and neighbors, see how often they vote, too. Which I do when people get too snotty with me about politics on FB.

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Response to pkdu (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:06 PM

33. Precinct lists are public records. Decades ago I did phone outreach for a local pol ...

We worked off massive printouts of registered voters that included name, address, phone number, and PARTY.

A lot of the Bernie people here seem to not understand how party politics actually works. At all. Registration of voters; registering them on time; registering them in the candidate's party so they can vote for the candidate... all such a mystery.

Those records Bernie's staff "accidentally" looked at -- and copied -- were painstakingly amassed over decades of dedicated work by Democrats. Now is the season in which all that info gets used.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:56 PM

111. Worse, I believe it was proprietary info

that the Clinton campaign itself had amassed through hours and hours of voter contact and outreach, most of it done by volunteers.

I think both candidates had access to the basic VAN and voter lists, but the Clinton campaign had worked to shade that info, who was a strong supporter, who was on the fence and who was strong Sanders, so they knew how to structure their outreach. And the Sanders campaign straight-up stole it. And most of what they stole was VOLUNTEERS time.

Anyone who ever did the work of campaign ID and GOTV would know what a violation that was.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #111)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:04 PM

117. You are so right

It was a betrayal -- a kind of theft.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:28 PM

20. Count yourself lucky. I was getting slick and very expensive mailings from Ben Carson's gang

I'm a registered Democrat in a heavily Democratic part of a blue city in a fairly blue state. I realized they'd gotten a mailing list from National Financial Services, the outfit that sends me all the crap relating to my dad's stocks.

Admen have pretty much taken over the political process, from providing focus groups of morons to vet speeches and oratory style to buying mail lists from corporations they think will target voting blocs they think they can win. Everything we see and hear from most candidates has been packaged by admen and has been for decades.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:48 PM

54. LOL, me too. What a waste of money. nt

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Response to Warpy (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:29 AM

159. Yeah

I got on that list too! And all my e-mailings were addressed to "Elizabeth" (Not my name). I got tons of emails until I blocked the email address. (Didn't get any actual physical mail.)

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:36 PM

21. Privacy is for those who can afford

to pay off all the right people. With enough of it you can cover up virtual mountains of information, poof.

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:46 PM

26. Truth! So pathetic and sad. You can hide things you say in public if you're rich, otherwise

they're listening to your phone calls to granny.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:59 PM

30. My response to this grotesque candidate...

 

... is to take "no postage necessary" envelope, stuff as much weighty material as possible, with a Sanders flyer on top, filled in the comment box under her "what concerns your family most" question with "a candidate not soaking in Wall Street money" ... and threw it in the nearest mailbox.

After HRC basically told Sanders supporters we could all pound sand Monday night, my way of telling her the same.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:59 PM

31. Because you are a registered voter

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:11 PM

37. I get mail from Bernie all the time. Calm down.

Politicians can get your name and address from all kinds of sources. Sheesh.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:06 PM

130. Stop being rational this instant

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:13 PM

38. supports USPS

they have to pay for the mailings. bulk rate but they still have to pay.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:34 PM

42. Are you hoping other people are clueless, and you can whip them up about this?

Don't you remember that whole deal last fall when the Bernie people broke into Hillary's voter database?

The reason that could happen is that they both rent the DNC's database of every Democrat who has EVER donated to ANYONE. In that system, they also kept the additional information they had collected themselves. Bernie's software guy broke into Hillary's proprietary info and looked around.

But that's when we all learned that they both rent and have full access to the basic DNC database containing name and contact info for anyone who has ever donated to, volunteered for, or registered as a member of the Democratic party.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:42 PM

46. Do you get any mail at all?

 

Ever get spam emails? Ever get spam phone calls?

Do you have similar rage when the DAV calls, sends you letters saying they will be in your neighborhood and can pick up any donations, even though you haven't signed up with them?

It's a cold call. You are not unique. You were not singled out.

Relax and don't take spam so personally.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:13 PM

133. Okay first don't compare a charity to a corporate owned sorry excuse for a candidate.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #133)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:14 PM

145. Why? Both are buying the mail address in bulk, from the same type of source.

 

Both are seeking money, with no previous connection.
Both are exempted from "Do not call" laws.

If you have a problem with one of the sources, that's exactly what it is, your problem.

I can't help it it if you don't like the answer to the question you asked.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #145)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:06 PM

147. One raises money to HELP, the other to fuck over those people.

I'm done arguing. They're not the same not even remotely and no twisted form of logic from you will convince me.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #147)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:22 PM

152. But neither are targeting you with any special intent. Which is my point.

 

Neither think you are special in any way, they just want your money.

The only thing that distinguishes them, IMO is your hatred.

Which for the sake of your health, I hope you learn to at least ignore, or it's going to eat you up over the coming years.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #147)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:31 AM

160. Most of the charities

I get phone calls from are questionable, at best. (Never donate to unsolicited charity calls.)

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:45 PM

50. Hate is a killer. nt

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:46 PM

51. I got on Bernie's list without donating or volunteering.

Meh.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #51)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:16 PM

134. Bernie wasn't on the campaign trail berating you or calling you names

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #134)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:15 PM

146. What?

You seem overwrought.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #146)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:07 PM

148. You seem to be hard of hearing or lack comprehension.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM

55. Maybe because you got on a list for bernie

Ya know, the guy running for the dem party nomination? Maybe since you've participated in the party nomination process they were fooled into thinking you are a democrat.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:55 PM

57. What's ridiculous is that she's asking you for money.

My response would be, "Your pals on Wall Street have plenty, and you are not hurting either. Please remove my name from your mailing list and leave me alone. Thanks. "

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #57)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:28 PM

91. Pretty much what I said

 

in one of my replies to her. Just not that politely.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #57)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:11 PM

119. Oh maybe offer money if she'll send a copy of her speech transcript.

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #119)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:17 PM

136. Perfect response!!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:02 PM

62. I get them, I am a registered Democrat, former Union member,

donated to Bill and Obama. If you don't want to donate put it in the trash and chill.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM

65. I got mailing from Bernie

Three things in the mail.

And thank you Bernie for listing the polling hours.

I'm not going to whine about it. Geez.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:04 PM

68. registration lists

As others have suggested return the envelop with your own letter. I got a survey from the DNC awhile back and I wrote and told them a few things I was thinking, smile.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:05 PM

69. I sent a couple sheets of toilet paper to the NRA with

Fuck You written on them, never got another.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:07 PM

72. lordy me, please let me get something from her with a SASE for return mail.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:10 PM

77. They are very good. I donated $50 to Bernie at the start when he went on Act Blue

And 2 weeks later got a thank you email from Hillary thanking me for the $50 donation to her and asking for another contribution but to her campaign email.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:12 PM

78. all the candidates buyvoting lists

not really a big deal. You can expect people going door to door for various candidates using those lists too.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:13 PM

81. at some point

you have signed up for something democratic or environmental. Most places SHARE information, e mail, etc.
If anyone told you anything, its the other voters. 3 million other voters for HRC.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:21 PM

86. I wonder, too

 

The first few times I wrote back to leave me alone. Now i Just dump in trash.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:25 PM

89. seems legit !

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:33 PM

92. aliens

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:37 PM

94. I've been getting stuff from her for over a year. First

it was Ready for Hillary and now it's her campaign.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #94)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:18 PM

137. It's for Hillary victory fund.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #94)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:09 AM

158. I got lots of stuff from Ready for Hillary, which I returned complaining about fracking and TPP

Haven't gotten anything from the campaign itself by snail mail. Emails? Sure, but I'm a member of my local Democratic Party organization.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:41 PM

97. I send political robo-calls directly to the auto-reject list

I just discovered you could do this in Android. So unwanted phone calls go right to the list. I never answer phone numbers I don't recognize anyway. But now they are not answered at all.

I have not received any campaign junk mail this time. I would imagine it will start soon.

I don't donate to political campaigns at all.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:43 PM

99. take your ball with you

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:46 PM

104. that and if Daily Kos wants to to bow to her and send her emails to me

well too late I unsubscribed. I won't pay attention to the crazy anti Anita Hill Brock Machine

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:47 PM

106. Perhaps the same way Sanders campaign got their hands on my home address and email address.

I thought his campaign team may have gotten information from the data base they downloaded.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #106)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:04 PM

116. Sanders campaign called my husband, too.

He is very definitely not a supporter.

He is a white man, registered Dem and a primary voter living in a zip code that would indicate that statistically, he might be a supporter. So they gave it a shot That is what they call "campaigning". Same thing probably happened to the OP. She "fits the description". Not that hard to figure out...

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:59 PM

114. The only campaign contacting me is the Sanders campaign

I am bombarded daily with 4-5 e-mails from his campaign. And he always needs money. $2.70 or $27.00.

The address that it goes to is one I have only ever given out to a single entity - Democratic Underground.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:08 PM

118. If you're a registered Democrat

 

then that's probably how they got your address.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:44 PM

124. You're on a list.

Think I do donate anything to Vicky Hartzler or Roy Blunt? Hell no but I still get mail all the time. You vote, you register to vote, you live in certain districts,etc-you get mailers. It's not a conspiracy. Don't turn it into one.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:44 PM

125. I've gotten a few of those

and where it has space for my comments - I let them have it. Then I happily mail it back - without that stamp that helps them "save much needed funds." They know who they can ask for a stamp.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:07 PM

131. I thought it was Sanders people who supposedly peeked at Clinton's database.

 

Yet I get zero reg. mails from Bernie and regular junk mail from Camp Clinton.

To quote Ricky Ricardo.... "I got a sinkin' fillin' ".... someone's not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:08 PM

132. We need the unrec button back. nt

 

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #132)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:23 PM

138. #Ignore

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #138)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:28 PM

140. Woo hoo...

 

Another "I won't vote if my candidate doesn't win" has me on ignore.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #140)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:19 PM

151. Who thinks it is a conspiracy

when a candidate sends her junk mail. Probably not a big loss....

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #151)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:28 AM

157. But, but

 

Clintonista White Water email scandal Benghazi. Oh, she got access to publicly available records. This just proves she is part of the Illuminati I am a Sanders supporter, but I understand math, and also understand that we can't have a republican name the next 2 or 3 SC justices. Either of our candidates on their worst day is 100 times better than the competition.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:08 PM

149. Welcome to party politics and public records. Good lord, it's not some big conspiracy.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #149)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:16 PM

150. Have been voting every election for decades. This is the first time I've gotten a beg letter from a

Presidential candidate I didn't first donate to or volunteer for. I don't particularly care if you're bothered by my question. Candidates that go around saying they don't need voters shouldn't be stupid enough to turn around and beg them for money. It's fucking ridiculous.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:25 PM

153. Have you ever donated to any candidate?

 

If you have, those lists are bought and sold. Don't ever get into media. This year at one point I was getting emails from 15 presidential candidates...now that is fun...real fun

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:29 PM

154. Board of elections supply address lists.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:52 AM

162. First step of politics: learn about politics

I've never seen so many posts on DU and elsewhere on the Interwebs by people who have little to no knowledge of how the political process actually works.

Everything I've seen about grand conspiracies, cheating, voter suppression shows just how uneducated people are about how out current political process works.

My point being is this: if you don't know how it really works, how do you expect to change it?

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #162)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:42 AM

163. If you bothered to read this thread, this was already answered. #Blocked

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #163)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:44 AM

164. Yes because reading through this thread shows how little some know about politics

hence my comment but since I've been blocked for speaking the truth, you won't see this.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:49 AM

165. Relax and recycle.

I get unsolicited mail from political campaigns, insurance companies, credit card companies, plumbing companies, merchandisers, etc. etc. That's life.

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Response to countingbluecars (Reply #165)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:57 AM

166. None of those people are getting on tv disparaging millions of people while

Simultaneously begging them for money. It's a false equivalence.

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