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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:40 AM May 2016

They don't think they're racists

Freeperville is orgasmic. They uniformly think Trump will win in the biggest blowout since St. Ronnie. But I'm struck by how the hate for Hillary is matched by the hate for Obama which is all about their naked racism which they insist isn't racism. In fact, they insist Obama is the racist.

These are Trump's base.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3435152/posts

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They don't think they're racists (Original Post) cali May 2016 OP
Correct. nruthie May 2016 #1
dangerously wrong diagnostic Albertoo May 2016 #2
Yeah, it's fairly easy to demonstrate that very wealthy people with personal jet liners are in fact Bluenorthwest May 2016 #3
He worked hard for the jetliner IronLionZion May 2016 #28
After they get their degree.. reACTIONary May 2016 #49
That's part of the solution: making sure to remind people Trump is an insider Albertoo May 2016 #54
Not worth two cents, no offense. cali May 2016 #6
Better alternative Cosmocat May 2016 #22
Look at opinion polls, pundits echoes: racism is not central to support for Trump Albertoo May 2016 #55
Trump has "solutions" ??? ananda May 2016 #23
"Trump can only be defeated by showing why his solutions do not solve these problems." LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #33
Agreed elljay May 2016 #39
Solutions might include acknowledging Trump is invoking a past that can't be replicated Albertoo May 2016 #56
From ReTHUGS and media hacks failed to shut down Trump malaise May 2016 #4
Yep. cali May 2016 #7
Oh my gosh that is the worst site! Silver_Witch May 2016 #5
sorry...you've never been there? LittleGirl May 2016 #17
No worries! Silver_Witch May 2016 #29
that is almost the very same reaction I had with my first trip there rurallib May 2016 #27
"These are Trump's base. " If they are correct, and they prevail, they would be "the majority". n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #8
No. They would be the majority of voters. cali May 2016 #9
Why post to freeperville when you have DUERS who msanthrope May 2016 #10
... that user was removed a while ago retrowire May 2016 #13
Those who agreed with him still post everyday. nt msanthrope May 2016 #40
You're equating DUers with freepers, which includes the following ... Martin Eden May 2016 #15
Start with the Stockholm Syndrome thread. and work your way through every thread msanthrope May 2016 #42
That user was removed a while ago, which was already pointed out to you. Martin Eden May 2016 #52
Those agreeing with him haven't been. nt msanthrope May 2016 #53
Continued mention of the Stockholm thread without mention of the Bernie supporters like me Bluenorthwest May 2016 #19
Well said, there were many of us who thought the post was wrong. retrowire May 2016 #21
Bernie supporters who cared so much that they immediately called for the ouster of the OP from the msanthrope May 2016 #43
There is not one post on DU that rremotely compare. Silver_Witch May 2016 #30
Here's a challenge for you.....go post this in the AA group. You know, your opinion msanthrope May 2016 #44
Show us a post with such racist content. Enthusiast May 2016 #35
Google the Stockholm Syndrome thread. It's infamous. nt msanthrope May 2016 #41
Okay. I googled "Democratic Underground Stockholm Syndrome thread." Enthusiast May 2016 #47
Somebody actually alerted on this! NutmegYankee May 2016 #11
Me thinks a freeper wants this hid greiner3 May 2016 #24
6-1 that we are not yet so poor and cowardly to fear clicking to see for ourselves. Festivito May 2016 #31
You could have stopped with "The don't think. CanonRay May 2016 #12
i ain't clicking that. nt retrowire May 2016 #14
this is the standard wing nut mentality. They refuse to face facts and forget so much history that Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #16
Taking their remarks with a grain of... Different Drummer May 2016 #18
Christ, those people do take good drugs. Feeling the Bern May 2016 #20
Meth is the drug of choice of white trash Republicans AgingAmerican May 2016 #25
Maybe they should switch to Krokodil. Feeling the Bern May 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2016 #50
There are some incredibly misinformed citizens. Then they smoke meth. Enthusiast May 2016 #48
Unreadable cesspool libodem May 2016 #32
Holy God, Freeperland STILL looks like the late 90s! Odin2005 May 2016 #34
I read a number of the comments at the site - reinforces my observation NoMoreRepugs May 2016 #36
why are you linking a racist trashy website like that on DU? stonecutter357 May 2016 #37
Know thy enemy. cali May 2016 #38
It is not possible... gregcrawford May 2016 #45
It's easy to remember... ALL Rethugs are racists. harrose May 2016 #46
I won't visit Freeperville yuiyoshida May 2016 #51
Self awareness is not strong in those folks... Wounded Bear May 2016 #57
 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
2. dangerously wrong diagnostic
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:47 AM
May 2016

There have always been racists around. Was that enough to win, McCain or Romney would have won.

Why Trump is dangerous is that he's tapping in
- the 2008 economic crisis discontent (->protectionism)
- which fostered a distrust of the establishment (R + D), political financing included

Trump can only be defeated by showing why his solutions do not solve these problems.

My two cents.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. Yeah, it's fairly easy to demonstrate that very wealthy people with personal jet liners are in fact
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:57 AM
May 2016

the Establishment themselves. Trump is Establishment.

IronLionZion

(44,999 posts)
28. He worked hard for the jetliner
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

Trumpers actually believe he's going to help them live like he does some day if only we got rid of the immigrants and feminists and politically correct liberals jealously holding them back.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Not worth two cents, no offense.
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

Obama has enraged and emboldened racists simply because he was elected- twice.

Trump has tapped into xenophobia and white resentment.

And trump can only be defeated by attacking him as unfit to serve.

Cosmocat

(14,529 posts)
22. Better alternative
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:21 AM
May 2016

To your final point.

People either get that he is unfit to serve or not, pointing out that he is unfit to serve only makes him more appealing to the jackasses who are supporting him.

The people in the "middle" who are not already voting for him or likely Hillary, they know he isn't fit to serve.

The alternative to that has to be there to give them the other choice.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
55. Look at opinion polls, pundits echoes: racism is not central to support for Trump
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:55 PM
May 2016

Protectionism, protecting jobs and fear immigrants will tap benefits are what he appeals to.
Racism is a very distant second, especially since both Hillary and Sanders are white.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,137 posts)
33. "Trump can only be defeated by showing why his solutions do not solve these problems."
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:30 AM
May 2016

Unfortunately you are talking about convincing a crowd whose eyes would glaze over if you started talking real numbers, facts etc..

They are on the level of "Trump make "merica great again!"

elljay

(1,178 posts)
39. Agreed
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

This is PRECISELY the mistake Obama made, and continued to make, for the first years of his presidency. They are incapable of critical thinking, possibly for genetic reasons in many cases, and factual analysis or logic will not convince them. It is best to ignore them and instead spend the time and money encouraging the non-voting part of our population to participate.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
56. Solutions might include acknowledging Trump is invoking a past that can't be replicated
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

There's no way in hell the US will ever regain its abnormally high share of the world's GDP

Trump is selling a mirage.


malaise

(266,702 posts)
4. From ReTHUGS and media hacks failed to shut down Trump
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

and birther racism, we knew they are all racists.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
5. Oh my gosh that is the worst site!
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 30, 2016, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)

I have never been there and am sorry I have added a click to that site. Yuck now my day is off to a very bad start. I am going to go find the cat post to see if I can feel better. I am of the opinion it is better not to feed such ugliness by responding. There is no hope for those full of such hatred!

LittleGirl

(8,226 posts)
17. sorry...you've never been there?
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

I won't click on the link for the exact reasons you mentioned. I don't need to have my day ruined. Life is rough enough.
Find kitty photos and videos. THAT will make you feel better.

Sorry I didn't warn you first.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
29. No worries!
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

I guess hatred is everywhere these days. I must prefer not to feed it since I have no idea how to stop it! Therre wasa wonderful Dick van Dyke dancing videodoenthe line which was a relief from the hate. I recommend it for everyone.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. "These are Trump's base. " If they are correct, and they prevail, they would be "the majority". n/t
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. Why post to freeperville when you have DUERS who
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

have the same attitudes?

Freeperville is hopeless. Time to take out the trash, here.

The Stockholm Syndrome thread is a good start.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
13. ... that user was removed a while ago
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:34 AM
May 2016

And the thread is old as sin now.

Beat the dead horse if you must about that stupid comment.

Martin Eden

(12,757 posts)
15. You're equating DUers with freepers, which includes the following ...
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:42 AM
May 2016

... post from the freeperville link in the OP:

Terming themselves African-Americans would indicate that they have one foot still in the Dark Continent and the other on the throat of America.

If they keep up their childish destruction of property, their murderous rampages, their birthing babies by the dozen with numerous sperm donors, the race is as doomed as is Venezuela.

I place much of the blame on the dead head of Lyndon Bird Johnson and his lousy Great Society where the traditional father was replaced by a welfare check and food stamps and the mothers and daughters were turned into whores and the sons into illiterate drug dealers.

I am for expansion of the death penalty which would, among other things, include the execution of those who sell and use drugs.

You need to get a grip, and some decency.
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
42. Start with the Stockholm Syndrome thread. and work your way through every thread
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

that mentions the Confeferacy. Then, I invite you to post in the AA group here about how much better things are, here.

Seriously.....I doubt you'll take up the challenge, but are you prepared to post in the African American group and tell them exactly how much better it is here?

Martin Eden

(12,757 posts)
52. That user was removed a while ago, which was already pointed out to you.
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

Do you seriously think what I quoted from freeperville represents DUers, wouldn't be hidden, and someone who posts racist garbage like that wouldn't soon be banned?

If so, you still haven't gotten a grip. On reality.

I'm not going to take up your "challenge" because so much of what is posted in DU these days is tripe that I wouldn't defend.

But there is a clear difference between that freeper quote and what passes our terms of service here at DU. If you can't see that, you are being willfully blind.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Continued mention of the Stockholm thread without mention of the Bernie supporters like me
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

and others who castigated that OP furiously is not honest. In fact, that tactic becomes very similar to the tactic of the Stockholm thread itself. That OP targeted African Americans and LGBT. Those of you who cite that OP never, ever mention the LGBT nor that many of us who support Bernie let that OP have the full force of our unhindered criticism.

You continue to use that OP to smear some of the very people who argued best against that OP. Your cohort does that habitually, regularly and it is in fact exploitative to do so. You bash us all with the act of one person. One person many of us objected to more strongly that any others.

It's wrong. And I object to it just as I did to the Stockholm OP itself.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
43. Bernie supporters who cared so much that they immediately called for the ouster of the OP from the
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

BS Group?

His banning?

Fyi....I never mentioned Bernie. You did. Defensive, much?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
44. Here's a challenge for you.....go post this in the AA group. You know, your opinion
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:11 PM
May 2016

that DU doesn't have posts and posters who remotely compare.

You know.....that's the essence of privilege...assuming you are a good judge of racism that affects others.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
47. Okay. I googled "Democratic Underground Stockholm Syndrome thread."
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

Maybe you should do it for me because the thread I read didn't say black people were victims of Stockholm Syndrome. It said Hillary voters in general were victims of Stockholm Syndrome.

Did I google up the wrong thread. Maybe you should just provide me with a link.

NutmegYankee

(16,154 posts)
11. Somebody actually alerted on this!
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

Mail Message
On Mon May 30, 2016, 09:47 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

They don't think they're racists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027866331

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Links to freerepublic should not be allowed on DU, period. We shouldn't be giving them page hits of any kind.
Besides, anyone who has been paying attention already knows that many, if not most, Trump supporters are delusional, racist morons. This isn't news; it's likely just another thinly-veiled "look how much people hate Obama and Clinton" post.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 30, 2016, 09:51 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is an interesting alert. I agree with not supporting FR, but the OP is making clear it's racist. I'm saying leave it on this one.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry this isn't a hideable post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This wasn't even worthy of an alert. When the message gets back to me, I'm going to alert on the alerter.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Um....
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
24. Me thinks a freeper wants this hid
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

Or maybe a low info DUer???? Hell, if the latter, do they alert on every Fox News link

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
31. 6-1 that we are not yet so poor and cowardly to fear clicking to see for ourselves.
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

I will now bravely step into the shower.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
16. this is the standard wing nut mentality. They refuse to face facts and forget so much history that
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

is convenient for them to forget.

Different Drummer

(7,440 posts)
18. Taking their remarks with a grain of...
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:52 AM
May 2016

salt since one of them referred to the thirty-sixth President of the United States as "Lyndon Bird Johnson."

Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #26)

NoMoreRepugs

(9,133 posts)
36. I read a number of the comments at the site - reinforces my observation
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

that the goobers and gomers in America will believe ANYTHING

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
45. It is not possible...
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

... to rehabilitate a psychopath. Nor is it possible to change the minds of the kind of mutant filth that wallow in a putrid cesspool like Free Republic.

I do not like, nor do I trust, Hillary Clinton. But Hillary on her worst day is many orders of magnitude better than that piece of shit, Trump, on his best day.

I am a stalwart Bernie supporter, and not just because he is one of my senators, or that I have met and spoken with him, or that he intervened personally (and successfully) on behalf of a friend's veteran son at my request. I am a stalwart Bernie supporter because, after following his career closely for forty years, I KNOW, from personal experience, that he is an honest man. But if he doesn't win, I will support Hillary.

The people that REALLY piss me off are the sanctimonious twits among Bernie's supporters who say they will not support Clinton if she wins the nomination. The hubris of such a short-sighted decision is beyond belief. To put the nation at risk of a Trump presidency just because they didn't get their own way reflects an infantile selfishness that cannot be condoned under such dire circumstances.

Wounded Bear

(58,206 posts)
57. Self awareness is not strong in those folks...
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

They claim that it isn't true, but their actions speak far louder than their protests of being somehow misunderstood.

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