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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:36 AM May 2016

Are Millennials Actually Going to Vote for Donald Trump?


Donald Trump, the petty, vindictive real estate heir who has become the Republican presidential nominee thanks to a combination of insults and a promise to build a big wall, is having a pretty good week. Last Friday he was endorsed by the NRA, on Thursday he officially clinched the Republican nomination, then Fox News aired a documentary on his family that was praised as "like something you'd see on state-run television somewhere."

To top it off, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll showed him with an edge over Hillary Clinton in the general election—an edge earned at least in part by a sudden surge in his popularity among millennials. The survey reports a pretty major jump in the way young people view Trump: In March, Clinton had a 64–25 lead among registered voters under 30, but as of May that gap had been narrowed to 45–42. Her support dropped across all demographics in the new poll, but the fact that a huge number of twentysomethings were suddenly siding with the GOP was the big news.

Barack Obama beat Mitt Romney among young voters 67–30 in 2012, and conventional wisdom is that millennials can't stand the Republican Party, particularly when it comes to social issues. So, what the fuck? Are young people actually turning to Trump?

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http://www.vice.com/read/are-millennials-actually-going-to-vote-for-donald-trump
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Are Millennials Actually Going to Vote for Donald Trump? (Original Post) cali May 2016 OP
Millennials aren't going to vote for anyone. onehandle May 2016 #1
Oh look, more fucking Millennial-Bashing. Odin2005 May 2016 #10
Settle down you might upset the locust generation. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #23
The seven millennials in my office didn't vote in the primary. onehandle May 2016 #47
The plural of anecdote is not data. Odin2005 May 2016 #60
You obviously didn't get the memo SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #64
I would assume that some will but the ones I know are not jwirr May 2016 #2
This is an outlier. All other polls show her doing very well with millenials. Mass May 2016 #3
You call the poll an outlier, claim she's doing "very well" with Millennials in other polls, EL34x4 May 2016 #9
The poll is an outlier. My sons WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP Mass May 2016 #22
Vice didn't answer thier own question. :I romanic May 2016 #4
I see a lot of pics of frat bros at Trump rallies EL34x4 May 2016 #7
Frat bros tend to be economically privilaged assholes who are going to vote GOP, anyway. Odin2005 May 2016 #12
Sorry we queered up your fantasy liberal generation. DemocraticWing May 2016 #44
You're attacking the wrong one. romanic May 2016 #62
I know a few TrappedInUtah May 2016 #5
Some are ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #6
And their votes count same as yours. Jester Messiah May 2016 #18
They are not liberals nor Democrats ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #19
So only Democrats should get to vote in the GE? Jester Messiah May 2016 #21
Actually, that would be awesome! ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #26
Consent of the governed. Jester Messiah May 2016 #31
Move to Kansas then, dude ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #34
One party rule? SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #32
"SickOfTheOnePct" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #35
You're the one saying that only Democrats SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #37
Lighten up Francis ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #39
I think you're the one who needs to lightn up SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #40
So you're not really sick of anything ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #42
Let me see if I can replicate your "thought" process SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #43
No, my thought process was the typical millenial voting for Trump is a clueless wank.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #46
Actually, I couldn't have been annoyed by it SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #48
.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #49
Both of those referenced Millenials voting for Trump SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #51
You really are a ball.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #53
Anyone who advocates taking away the right to vote is scary SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #55
Yep, I'm worse than Kris Kobach or Ken Blackwell ever were ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #57
Not worse SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #58
"Idiots you champion" meaning morons who toss their vote away and against their interests.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #65
Meh, our daughters were raised SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #67
I'm sure some will SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #8
Ugh... We know she polls horribly with men EL34x4 May 2016 #14
She's losing my daughters SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #15
But are your daughters voting Trump??? Mass May 2016 #24
I already posted SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #25
No worries! n/t SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #27
Gary Johnson????? LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #36
My deal SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #38
We Millennials are the least White generation in American history. Odin2005 May 2016 #11
It's really not clear. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #33
Millennials as a class are not known for good judgment. Gman May 2016 #13
Horseshit. Odin2005 May 2016 #61
Besides generations being a BS concept.... Trump COULD win over the young... JPnoodleman May 2016 #16
They are younger, and less infected by the stupid Cosmocat May 2016 #17
No trumad May 2016 #20
Hope not. I suppose the ones who have their saltpoint May 2016 #28
I can only predict based upon the Millennials I know, TonyPDX May 2016 #29
I doubt my daughter littlebit May 2016 #30
I was born in in 1990 StayFrosty May 2016 #41
Clinton will beat Trump 2-1 among voters under 30. Only concern is turnout. DemocraticWing May 2016 #45
Turnout is what I worry about as well SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #50
My 2 millennials MFM008 May 2016 #52
No and the millennials know what they have been told. gordianot May 2016 #54
The ones I know will not vote for Trump, ever. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #56
If anything, the poll reflects a lack enthusiasm for either candidate. BlueStater May 2016 #59
Given the reactions in this thread Lordquinton May 2016 #63
Yip, we always shoot ourselves in the foot UTUSN May 2016 #66
If Bernie reminds them of their grandpas, maybe Trump reminds them of their drunk uncles. KamaAina May 2016 #68

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
10. Oh look, more fucking Millennial-Bashing.
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:24 AM
May 2016

You know the oldest Millennials are 34, right? I'm 30 and I have never used Snapchat in my life, that is something kiddos born 10 years after me do.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. I would assume that some will but the ones I know are not
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

going to. The millennials I know are well educated and know their history and/or understand where hate and fear can lead people to.

If they do not vote for Hillary if she is nominated they would be more likely to stay home. Which is really bad as we need to take the congress back.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
3. This is an outlier. All other polls show her doing very well with millenials.
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:42 AM
May 2016

The real risk is that some may stay home, however. None of my sons like her. They will eventually vote for her because they loath Trump, but they dislike her too. Both voted Sanders in the primary.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
9. You call the poll an outlier, claim she's doing "very well" with Millennials in other polls,
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:24 AM
May 2016

and then divulge that your own sons don't like her. So who's the outlier? This poll or your sons?

Why don't your sons liker her?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
22. The poll is an outlier. My sons WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

So, there is no contradiction.

And yes, the risk is young people not going to vote, not voting for Trump! Young people are generally not stupid and you have to be very stupid to vote Trump.


BTW, the article quoted above says the poll is an outlier.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
4. Vice didn't answer thier own question. :I
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

That part about the SJWism might push some younger voters to Trump just out of spite; but I know alot of people who are tired of rampant political correctness (mostly in colleges that they attend and admins bending backwards for these fringe groups) but all of them HATE Trump and won't even think of voting for him.

If I had to use my friends as an example regarding the elections (were 24 to 29), our mentality is to vote for Clinton because we have to or not vote at all.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
7. I see a lot of pics of frat bros at Trump rallies
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

I imagine Trump has this Millennial demographic locked up.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
44. Sorry we queered up your fantasy liberal generation.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:06 PM
May 2016

90% of young voters don't give an absolute fuck about your delusions of "SJWism" or whatever other right wing nonsense you read on Reddit.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
6. Some are
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

But they probably didn't vote for Obama if they could last time out. I suspect they're young white guys who watch South Park.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
19. They are not liberals nor Democrats
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

They are libertarians, and they only listen to themselves.

And shitty novels from 50 years ago.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
21. So only Democrats should get to vote in the GE?
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

You do realize that the general is not a closed primary, right? Or do you want to just write off an entire demographic?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
26. Actually, that would be awesome!
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

Because I'm about fucking done trying to educate the terminally stupid and entitled.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
31. Consent of the governed.
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

They get a say in who rules them, so you have to win over enough of them to get your person elected. This may occasionally entail compromise, or even actually considering views other than your own.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
37. You're the one saying that only Democrats
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

should be able to vote in Presidential elections. Sounds like the old Soviet Union to me - one party only.

As screwed up as Kansas currently is, I'd take that over telling nearly half the country that they can't vote because I disagree with whom they would vote for.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
39. Lighten up Francis
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

They'll let ANY asshole vote (as long as they're white or have 14 forms of ID), but I don't have to respect their stupidity, ignorance and bigotry whilst they do it and flush out country down the drain.

Have a nice day.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
40. I think you're the one who needs to lightn up
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

All of that self-righteous indignation is going to raise your blood pressure to dangerous levels if you're not careful.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
43. Let me see if I can replicate your "thought" process
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

a. ProudToBeBlueInRhody believes that only Democrats should be permitted to vote in Presidential elections

b. SickOfTheOnePct believes that everyone who is eligible, regardless of party affiliation should be permitted to vote in Presidential elections

c. ProudToBeBlueInRhody deduces that this is proof that SickOfTheOnePct is not really a Democrat

Nyet.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
46. No, my thought process was the typical millenial voting for Trump is a clueless wank....
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

....who now thinks Trump is cool because "he'll shake things up" and they want to watch the world burn. And probably spent the last eight years calling Obama a dork on the internet since his parents let him have a computer. And hails Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, Matt Stone and Trey Parker as his political compass.

Considering your daughters are voting for Gary Fucking Johnson, it now makes sense why you're so annoyed at all that.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
48. Actually, I couldn't have been annoyed by it
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

Since you hadn't even said any of that. Sadly, my mind reading skills have atrophied as I've aged.

I was just taken aback by you saying that only Democrats should be permitted to vote in the Presidential election.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
51. Both of those referenced Millenials voting for Trump
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

and of course, doesn't match what you said in your previous post, although the second one comes close.

Nope, if I had been annoyed by those comments, I would have responded to those comments. The comment that I responded to, and that is pretty scary, is your stance on only allowing Democrats to vote in Presidential elections.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
53. You really are a ball....
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

Keep on "being scared", buddy. The real people to fear are the ones I cited voting for Republicans who are demonstrably stealing people's right to vote EVERY FUCKING DAY. Voted by the people for the people you're wasting time being so worried about me trashing.

But no, be "scared" by me, the big bad Democrat blowing off some steam on the interwebs. I'm the real enemy.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
55. Anyone who advocates taking away the right to vote is scary
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

Since you've done that, you're included in that group.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
57. Yep, I'm worse than Kris Kobach or Ken Blackwell ever were
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

Keep it focused on me while the idiots you champion vote for people who think a student ID isn't valid at a polling place, but an NRA card is.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
58. Not worse
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:24 PM
May 2016

Just the same.

And why do you consider Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton to be idiots? Because one of those two will be who I champion in the fall.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
65. "Idiots you champion" meaning morons who toss their vote away and against their interests....
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

....that you're whining about me suppressing in your imagination

But again, I can see why you'd be defensive when family members could be duped to support a party led by the likes of this dude....



SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
67. Meh, our daughters were raised
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

to be strong, independent women, so while I may not agree with their choice, it's their choice to make, not mine.



SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
8. I'm sure some will
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:24 AM
May 2016

but not Millenials as a whole.

My two Millenial daughters are both planning to vote for Gary Johnson.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
14. Ugh... We know she polls horribly with men
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

But she's losing daughters as well?

Sigh... This is going to be a fucking disaster.

Hello President Trump! At least we'll have spiffy uniforms.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
24. But are your daughters voting Trump???
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

Hopefully not.

Edit: sorry, I just read the full post. My kids would never vote Johnson, but at least I can understand their vote.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
25. I already posted
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

that they plan to vote for Gary Johnson. But if they chose to vote for Trump, that's their decision, not mine.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
38. My deal
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

is that I don't dictate to my adult daughters whom they should vote for, nor they me.

I'll be voting for whomever the Democratic nominee is, presumably Hillary.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
11. We Millennials are the least White generation in American history.
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

And I say that as a lily-white guy. Millennial POC are not going to be voting for Der Drumpf.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
33. It's really not clear.
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

People like to treat POC's like they have no options other than the Democratic Party. However POC's are a diverse people with unique experiences.

The experiences of someone of Mexican descent, well assimilated into America or a Cuban american is totally different from many new immigrants. In California we have two main hispanic gang factions the surenos and the nortenos. One is of long standing americans of Mexican descent, the other of new comers. They have different experiences, outlooks, values and routinely kill each other. Some recent hispanic immigrants are all into the Pentecostal church because the catholics were too slack for them. Their outlook classic born again christian where do they fit in?

Asian Americans - Even more diverse. We call them asian but consider the differences between china, japan, korea, all the way to India.

Some indians are mega right wing. Some Chinese cut throat capitalists. Japanese and Koreans can be socially conservative. Thai's love a monarchy, Indonesia is a muslim nation. The Philippines extremely catholic.

Same goes for any other ethnic group. To assume they have no variety of opinions, perspectives, or political opinions other than the ones allowed to them and assumed of them because of they are people of color, is in itself a stereotype.

I was surprised when my Honduran friend said was going to vote for trump but she like any non POC has her own outlook on life, opinions, and most importantly uniqueness as an individual to make her own decision.

I doubt you would argue all millennial white people are going to vote for trump. Why would you argue all millennial POC are going to vote for Hillary or any other Democrat?

Why a Black Person Would Support Trump, Explained
Because we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of stupidity just like everyone else.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/03/why_a_black_person_would_support_trump_explained/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-would-it-take-for-hispanic-conservatives-to-back-donald-trump/

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/texas-gop-race-trump-has-some-asian-american-appeal-n529301

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/politics/donald-trump-gay-rights.html





JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
16. Besides generations being a BS concept.... Trump COULD win over the young...
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

At this point he has done the impossible several times over.

And Hillary is an incredibly bad politician and isn't exactly endearing herself to the young. Plus the Lefts love of white baiting will have an effect, the majority is still of European descent and I am sure the SJWism is probably going to take its toll.

Bernie capture that fire, but I suspect Clinton will never be able to hold it.

Cosmocat

(14,529 posts)
17. They are younger, and less infected by the stupid
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

I know it is always popular to bash the youngest generation.

But, sorry, the older people get, the more close minded they get (generally) and the more they need confirmation of their personal beliefs, and the virulently they react to people who don't tell them what the want to hear.

The younger we are, the more open we are (again, generally) and the less restricted we are by our own beliefs.

This country is getting more stupid by the day, which is why Trump is the nominee for a major party for POTUS. But, the younger generation is not as bitten by the stupid he appeals to.

As noted, yeah, obviously some are into him. But, overall, what he is appealing to is not where they are at AND FURTHER, the younger we are, the more we are repulsed by phonies.

SO, while they like Bernie better than Hillary primarily for this reason, when paired against Trump, she may be phony, but not even remotely like the Donald.

End of they day, they either sit it out or mostly vote Hillary.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
28. Hope not. I suppose the ones who have their
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

heads up their asses might.

Probably not everybody else.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
29. I can only predict based upon the Millennials I know,
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

and they are thoughtful, responsible people who give a damn about their futures. In my encounters, Trump is seen as an obvious huckster and idiot. From what I've been told, they see through his bullshit.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
45. Clinton will beat Trump 2-1 among voters under 30. Only concern is turnout.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

Taking one poll as fact is shaky enough, but doing so with a subgroup (where the MOEs tend to be much larger) is laughable. Most polling shows the younger generation still leaning heavily to the left, and Fascist Donald isn't going to change that.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
50. Turnout is what I worry about as well
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

I'm hoping that if not inspired by Hillary personally, they'll be inspired by her ability to keep President Obama's legacy intact, and show up to vote.

gordianot

(15,220 posts)
54. No and the millennials know what they have been told.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

A Clinton Presidency when her true positions emerge will do nothing to convince millennials in eight years.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
56. The ones I know will not vote for Trump, ever.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

They may prefer Sanders, but in the General, they will vote for Clinton.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
59. If anything, the poll reflects a lack enthusiasm for either candidate.
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

They're both throwbacks that excite no one. While that's more of a comment on their characters and policies than their ages, I can personally say that I'm not remotely thrilled over the prospect of going from having a president born in the 1960s back to (yet another) one born in the 1940s.

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