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FSogol

(45,483 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:26 AM Jun 2016

Trump’s personal, racially tinged attacks on federal judge alarm legal experts

By Jose A. DelReal and Katie Zezima, June 1, 2016 Washington Post

Donald Trump’s highly personal, racially tinged attacks on a federal judge overseeing a pair of lawsuits against him have set off a wave of alarm among legal experts, who worry that the ­Republican presidential candidate’s vendetta signals a remarkable disregard for judicial independence. That attitude, many argue, could carry constitutional implications if Trump becomes president.

U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is handling two class-action lawsuits against Trump University in San Diego, has emerged as a central target for Trump and his supporters in recent weeks. The enmity only escalated after Curiel ordered the release of embarrassing internal documents detailing predatory marketing practices at the for-profit educational venture; that case is set to go to trial after the November election.

“I have a judge who is a hater of Donald Trump, a hater. He’s a hater,” Trump said at a campaign rally in San Diego, adding that he believed the Indiana-born judge was “Mexican.”

He also suggested taking action against the judge after the election: “They ought to look into Judge Curiel, because what Judge Curiel is doing is a total disgrace. Okay? But we will come back in November. Wouldn’t that be wild if I am president and come back and do a civil case? Where everybody likes it. Okay. This is called life, folks.”


Whole article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/06/01/437ccae6-280b-11e6-a3c4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpjudges-905pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Trump’s personal, racially tinged attacks on federal judge alarm legal experts (Original Post) FSogol Jun 2016 OP
He's a scary man n/t gollygee Jun 2016 #1
he has very scary followers rurallib Jun 2016 #27
K&R they're not scary to me Jeffersons Ghost Jun 2016 #35
It should malaise Jun 2016 #2
He proves on a daily basis that he does not have the temperament to be President. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #3
Trump (& his supporters) have no clue on how our system of government works. FSogol Jun 2016 #4
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #13
Even "w" didn't behave like that. Well he did start wars mucifer Jun 2016 #5
Yeah, the only difference between Trump and Reagan is that Trumpy is more crass and vulgar. n/t FSogol Jun 2016 #7
Trump's attacks on this judge are really scary Gothmog Jun 2016 #6
Agreed. A Trump presidency would be little more than score settling and gutting business regulations FSogol Jun 2016 #8
Gee! Attack the independent press? ... Attack the independent judiciary ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #14
What should scare the crap out of you is that he is resonating with his core. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #9
Trump will never become president. A CIA agent will bump him off first. Trump is just valerief Jun 2016 #10
Trump will never become President because Democrats, African Americans, Latinos, and women FSogol Jun 2016 #12
No ... Don D. Con, is far from a cheerleader for the gop ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #17
and add in a batch of both celebrity- and rich- worship. FSogol Jun 2016 #25
T-Rumps core constituency are haters... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #11
Haters, or very really, really, scared and angry people? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #18
I don't think they are afraid (scared) of those people that aren't like themselves...... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #31
I think a good measure of these people are scared, not of people not like themselves ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #32
Not understanding your circular logic... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #37
This Piece of Garbage SDJay Jun 2016 #15
Make sure your friends, family, and co-workers are registered to vote. FSogol Jun 2016 #16
Absolutely ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #19
I Understand and Agree SDJay Jun 2016 #20
The folks who claim they are staying home do not vote anyway or vote GOP. FSogol Jun 2016 #23
So he wants to muddle into the Judicial system, padfun Jun 2016 #21
Just Think of the Shit He'd Try to Pull SDJay Jun 2016 #26
He doesn't understand libel law. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2016 #22
Wow. Just, wow. colorado_ufo Jun 2016 #24
And none of this hurts him in the polls oberliner Jun 2016 #28
Donald Trump is a real life character from an Ayn Rand novel. gordianot Jun 2016 #29
Nuisance suits are called "vexatious litigation". Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2016 #30
The man is absolutely, completely and utterly clueless. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #33
Pretty sure his lawyers tell him exactly what he wants to hear. bluesbassman Jun 2016 #34
He's what happens when you spoil your kid constantly ailsagirl Jun 2016 #36

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
3. He proves on a daily basis that he does not have the temperament to be President.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

Trump makes GWB look like a political genius.

FSogol

(45,483 posts)
4. Trump (& his supporters) have no clue on how our system of government works.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

Trump would be a epic disaster that might make us remember Reagan, Bush, and Nixon fondly.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. I know ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jun 2016

He's talking about filing a lawsuit, naming the judge as a defendant ... Perhaps, Don D. Con should have one of his great, fantastic, bestest lawyers on the planet, look up the case law on Judicial Immunity.

Why isn't the media all over this? Never mind.

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
5. Even "w" didn't behave like that. Well he did start wars
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

with false pretense. But, he didn't pull crap like that.

reagan did now that I think of it. Wow I hate republicans.

FSogol

(45,483 posts)
8. Agreed. A Trump presidency would be little more than score settling and gutting business regulations
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

on real estate speculation.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. Gee! Attack the independent press? ... Attack the independent judiciary ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

Where have we seen this model before?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. Trump will never become president. A CIA agent will bump him off first. Trump is just
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jun 2016

a cheerleader for the GOP.

FSogol

(45,483 posts)
12. Trump will never become President because Democrats, African Americans, Latinos, and women
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jun 2016

will gotv in record numbers. Trumpy will lose in a landslide.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
17. No ... Don D. Con, is far from a cheerleader for the gop ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

he represents all that has gone wrong in an American educational system that, for decades, has de-emphasized critical thinking, while placing all importance in checking the box that "they" tell you to (again, without thinking about why you are checking that box ... beyond because you are told it's the correct answer, or thinking about the likely consequence(s) of your checking that box).

NoMoreRepugs

(9,418 posts)
11. T-Rumps core constituency are haters...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

understand that and you will understand why the Rump's lies are music to their ears

NoMoreRepugs

(9,418 posts)
31. I don't think they are afraid (scared) of those people that aren't like themselves......
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sticking with disliking and being wholly intolerant of others not like themselves.....
quantified into a single word - 'haters'


one old guys opinion....

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
32. I think a good measure of these people are scared, not of people not like themselves ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

but rather, scared that "those people" will get/take what they've got.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,418 posts)
37. Not understanding your circular logic...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:51 AM
Jun 2016

they are 'scared' - support the divisive candidate who espouses hate/fear/mistrust of Muslims/Mexicans/Liberals/etc. - and it's not about 'people not like themselves..but rather, scared that 'these people' will get/take what they've got ... so people just like them? their neighbors/friends/other old white guys??

Not a big deal 1SBM - appreciate your posts and passion....

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
15. This Piece of Garbage
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

is a tinpot dictator in his own mind already.

The prospect of a Drumpf presidency scares the shit out of me every day.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
20. I Understand and Agree
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

One of my fears is that everyone I know doesn't come close to the millions of fucking idiots who think this guy is going to fight for them, give a rat's ass about them, do anything for them or anyone other than himself if he wins.

Eventually, the collective laziness and stupidity that have become nearly virtuous in this culture are going to manifest themselves in something tangible that affects everyone. A Drumpf presidency would be a lot of chickens coming home to roost with a vengeance.

I don't want to turn this thread in this direction, but this is why I don't get the Bernie-or-Bust folks: I'm a Bernie supporter but if it winds up being HRC, are you REALLY going to stay home and pout and give this scumbag an opportunity to completely ruin this country? I wouldn't be EXCITED to vote for HRC by any means, but I'd be TERRIFIED to do anything but if those are our two choices.

FSogol

(45,483 posts)
23. The folks who claim they are staying home do not vote anyway or vote GOP.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jun 2016

They are just here to disrupt and to try and suppress Democratic turnout.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
21. So he wants to muddle into the Judicial system,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jun 2016

and stop reporters using the first amendment.

What next? Threaten Congress?

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
26. Just Think of the Shit He'd Try to Pull
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

with the US military in his pocket?

Go ahead and shudder with me.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
22. He doesn't understand libel law.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016

He said he was going to sue the press for telling all those lies. Guess what, asshole? Truth is an absolute defense to slander. That is the kind of crap that makes my legal brain explode. Like "this is not a precedent." Bush v.. Gore, 2000.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
24. Wow. Just, wow.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

The longer his campaign runs, the more he speaks, the fewer people could ever give him the benefit of the doubt. He is an unhinged disaster and must not be allowed in a seat of such power.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
30. Nuisance suits are called "vexatious litigation".
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

When a person files numerous baseless lawsuits, they may be called a "vexatious litigator" and be prevented from filing similar suits in the future.

The remedy for such a lawsuit is called a "summary judgment" which means the Court finds no cause of action in the petition, no issue at law, so it gets dismissed.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
33. The man is absolutely, completely and utterly clueless.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

He wants to sue the judge? For what? "Ruling against you" is not a recognized cause of action in any sort of court.

The dumbass has no idea that events in courtrooms are almost always covered by privilege and you can't sue about what is said or done in court.

Thing is, you think he'd know a lawyer from all the times he's sued other people. They'd tell him that.

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
34. Pretty sure his lawyers tell him exactly what he wants to hear.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jun 2016

Just like the doctor who claimed he was the fittest man to ever seek the presidency.

I can't even imagine the soul crushing subservience it would require to work for that man.

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
36. He's what happens when you spoil your kid constantly
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

He still throws tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants

What a piece of work

Just googled "grown man throwing tantrum trump"

4,240,000 results found

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