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EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:33 PM Jun 2016

Man who identified as a woman was allowed in our all-women's shelter.

Man who identified as a woman was allowed in our all-women's shelter. It was the wrong call (OPINION), May 24, 2016, Malta Davis, Guest Columnist, Oregon Live

In June 2014, I was admitted to a women's homeless shelter in Northeast Portland. This was my second attempt to lift myself out of homelessness through the assistance of Transition Projects, which runs the shelter.

Like most of the residents, I was there because I had run out of options. None of us was thrilled about living with as many as 60 other women. Our only task was to make the most of it so we could transition into something better.

A few weeks into my stay, I returned to find a number of women in distress. Reportedly, one woman had even fled the shelter in terror.

What was wrong? What was the uproar about? An answer soon followed: The shelter had admitted a man who "self-identified" as a woman. No doubt this was not a first for the shelter; it was, however, a first for those of us who were relative newcomers.


http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/05/man_who_self-identified_as_a_w.html

With the discussion focused on public restrooms and locker rooms, I ran across this and wondered, what about women's homeless shelters?

I didn't see this posted.
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Man who identified as a woman was allowed in our all-women's shelter. (Original Post) EL34x4 Jun 2016 OP
I have done volunteer work repairing a small women's shelter in a two bedroom house with braddy Jun 2016 #1
I've volunteered a lot and what about women whose abusers were women? uppityperson Jun 2016 #16
I give up, what about them? braddy Jun 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #2
That's an anti-abortion, anti-LGBT garbage site REP Jun 2016 #4
That assault was covered in mainstream media sources as well. EL34x4 Jun 2016 #5
SF has an all-LGBT shelter. KamaAina Jun 2016 #3
Ok where should a homeless transgender woman find shelter? Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #6
Women's shelters EL34x4 Jun 2016 #7
yeah. And they are likely to be at risk there as well. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #8
Eh, transphobic piece of shit has an opinion, and it should carry weight why? n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #9
Was it an actual trans woman or just a dude saying he was a woman? romanic Jun 2016 #10
Who makes this decision? EL34x4 Jun 2016 #12
Cis transphobes. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #13
Okay. romanic Jun 2016 #15
If you read the article, it was an "actual" trans woman and the author's transphobia is clear uppityperson Jun 2016 #18
This sort of bigotry is not new phenomenon, sadly. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #11
Anybody promoting this scare tactic should be ashamed of themselves. yardwork Jun 2016 #14
This part shows the author's transphobia. uppityperson Jun 2016 #17
Why are you posting this transphobic article on DU? nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #20
 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
1. I have done volunteer work repairing a small women's shelter in a two bedroom house with
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

with bunk beds, the women seem pretty fragile to me and already have enough on their minds, having a transgender joining them in that little living room and in their bedroom, might not be popular with them.

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REP

(21,691 posts)
4. That's an anti-abortion, anti-LGBT garbage site
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jun 2016

Calling it garbage is an insult to garbage, though.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. SF has an all-LGBT shelter.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016
http://kron4.com/2015/06/17/nations-first-lgbt-homeless-shelter-opens-in-sf/

Jazzie’s Place, the first homeless shelter for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender adults in the U.S., opened in San Francisco’s Mission District today to help serve the housing needs of nearly a third of the city’s homeless population who identify as LGBT.

Wendy Phillips, the director of Dolores Street Community Services and Jazzie’s Place, said the new shelter is intended to be a space where all shelter guests are treated with dignity and respect.

The shelter is named after Jazzie Collins, a transgender African American woman who was an advocate for homeless LGBT folks prior to her death in 2013.

Collins was also among those who helped dream up the LGBT shelter, according to Tommi Avicolli Mecca, the director of counseling programs at the Housing Rights Committee of San Francisco.


I ran into Jazzie at quite a few budget actions back in the Ahh-nuld era.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
10. Was it an actual trans woman or just a dude saying he was a woman?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

Judging by how upset the women were at this shelter, I think it may have been the latter.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
12. Who makes this decision?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

Some people are gender fluid and may at any time identify as male, female, genderqueer, pangender, trigender, other non-binary identity, or any combination of identities.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
15. Okay.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016
pangender, trigender, other non-binary identity, or any combination of identities.


All this is new to me. :I

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
18. If you read the article, it was an "actual" trans woman and the author's transphobia is clear
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016
But at no point did I come to regard Clarence as a woman, nor did I refer to him as one. I saw him as an intelligent, sensitive, but very fragile and confused man. That is to say, I afforded him the dignity he deserved as a human being without denying the truth of his gender.
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for every man who is admitted into a women's shelter under the speciousness of gender ideology, untold numbers of bona fide women are left waiting on the streets. That is not just unfair, it's unjust.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. This sort of bigotry is not new phenomenon, sadly.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

The condescending, nasty tone of that piece is real nice, especially considering the fact that transgender people who are also homeless probably constitute one of the MOST marginalized groups in all of society. Yet the verbiage she uses about the woman in question- "a confused man", scare quotes around self-identified; typical.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
14. Anybody promoting this scare tactic should be ashamed of themselves.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

I've never seen such lies and hysteria directed at a tiny, vulnerable population.

People need to grow up. Deal with your own personal problems instead of spreading hysterical lies about trans people who are trying to mind their own business.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
17. This part shows the author's transphobia.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016
But at no point did I come to regard Clarence as a woman, nor did I refer to him as one. I saw him as an intelligent, sensitive, but very fragile and confused man. That is to say, I afforded him the dignity he deserved as a human being without denying the truth of his gender.
(clip)

for every man who is admitted into a women's shelter under the speciousness of gender ideology, untold numbers of bona fide women are left waiting on the streets. That is not just unfair, it's unjust.


Bull. Shit.
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