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Jnew28

(931 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:23 AM Jun 2016

Was the "real Jesus" a capitalist?

Please read: http://stupidpartymathvmyth.com/1/post/2015/05/will-the-real-jesus-please-stand-up-exit-faux-christians.html

"Jesus was a far better person than Stupidparty gives him credit for. One also has to wonder how the male dominated Stupidparty disciples who clearly have un-Christ like views, will get their respective camels to enter the proverbial eye of the needle.
PictureJesus was not a fan of Asset Strippers"

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Was the "real Jesus" a capitalist? (Original Post) Jnew28 Jun 2016 OP
Um Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #1
Earl Doherty! longship Jun 2016 #3
I read the Jesus Puzzle a while ago. It definitely made me think. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #5
Who says Jesus was real? longship Jun 2016 #2
Exactly. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #4
I always figured he was a kind of amalgam... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #6
Robert M. Price is one of the folks who advocates Christ myth theory. longship Jun 2016 #12
The dispute is not about being "real" MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #10
Jesus was an anarchist TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2016 #7
Capitalism as a concept was about 1600 years in the future at that point Recursion Jun 2016 #8
A lot of people have a pokégod. Igel Jun 2016 #11
Was the "real Gandalf" a druid? Iggo Jun 2016 #9

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Earl Doherty!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:55 AM
Jun 2016

There's also Robert M. Price, another Christ myth advocate, and an advocate of Earl Doherty.

Granted, he's a Republican, but his Bible Geek podcast is quite astounding. I confess that I am a bit addicted to it.


longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Who says Jesus was real?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:48 AM
Jun 2016

I mean other than the folks whose religion says he was real. (Not a very good, or credible, source.)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. Exactly.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:34 AM
Jun 2016

"Biblical historians" will agree he was real, but they have sort of a vested interest in the historical veracity of the bible, by definition.

At the very least the total lack of corroborating contemporary accounts - except Josephus, a passage widely discredited and considered forged after the fact- ought to make people at least question what is taken by many as a sort of "well, of course" proposition.

Wounded Bear

(58,856 posts)
6. I always figured he was a kind of amalgam...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

There were many preachers and prophets running around Palestine at the time. What we think of as Jesus was, in my mind a construct made by combining numerous stories from the era.

There's no need for a "real" Jesus. Myths are myths because they touch people on a deep level, not because they are historically accurate.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. Robert M. Price is one of the folks who advocates Christ myth theory.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

And he states that no, he is not sure, however states what you posted in support of his position.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
10. The dispute is not about being "real"
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

There are a plethora of sources about a certain Nazarine preaching, getting crowds worked up, and getting executed, including non-Christian sources (most notably the Talmud).

The rub is on the claim he was the Mosiach.

Upon that point, reasonable minds differ.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
7. Jesus was an anarchist
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jun 2016

Do you really think a supposed divine being (not that I believe that) would support specific states or parties? Ugh...

This article makes it very clear from "his own words".

http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/jesus-anarchist/

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Capitalism as a concept was about 1600 years in the future at that point
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

Whatever his economic views were, they'd be largely unrecognizable in modern terms.

Igel

(35,425 posts)
11. A lot of people have a pokégod.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

A little pocket god that has buttons.

You push one, it says, "You're a good person."

You push another, "Your views are exactly mine, so you're always right."

A third gives you, "Everybody should think like you, you're so awesome!"

At least some are honest and don't need the mechanized prop telling them good or right or awesome they are.

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