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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOoops, I just lost a friend on Facebook. He unfriended me!
He posted some crap about the proposed UN Small Arms Treaty. I called him out on it.
He called me a sheep willing to give up my freedoms.
I then reminded him that he was the one who posted that Michelle Obama had her law license revoked and I had proved him wrong.
SNAP!
The thread is gone and he unfriended me!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)who needs enemas
just1voice
(1,362 posts)If you are going to tell the truth around people who have (R)s next to their name you will not be friends with them for long. For whatever reasons, (R)s firmly believe the propaganda they hear, firmly believe their stupidity is as valid as the truth, firmly believe that lying, cheating and stealing is the only way to get ahead and, firmly believe that people who tell the truth are their enemy.
Well put
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)how can we open people's eyes to what the right is doing when these people won't listen.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)They are brainwashed.
This guy said twice that he had been in touch with Congressmen and Senators about the UN Small Arms proposal and they are very concerned. He thought that would sway me. I did not bother to ask their names. I know who they are and would not believe a word out of their mouths.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)question. I see you don't and you fight for the truth.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Obama has not taken a single step to take away any guns.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)there is a cure for small arms.... exercise!!!
tanyev
(42,552 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I believe it was Frank Schaeffer who called today's right-wing the Fifth Column of the Insane
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)bleating from the right wing.
After awhile, i started to point out the wrong parts and backed it up with Snipes.
He immediately went into a snit about me being "combative" and that he had sacrificed for "his" country and la de da de da...
So it's okay for them to shove anything and everything in our faces but the minute we take them to task, we are immediately cast in the role of cyber bully and never want to see you again...
alas, I feel no particular loss...
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I've got a relative that tussles over politics with me on Facebook. Once she posted a picture of Obama with a copy of Fakaria's "The Post-American Century" and went on this wild rant about it. "I don't want him reading about the rise of other nations, I want him focused on keeping us great" kind of stuff. I posted the Snopes article on the picture (which was 2.5 years old at this point), and she replied:
If people want to be crazy, you just have to let them.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I feel absolved when I look into something.
I think they are offended that "you" would dare challenge their belief system.
You can't fix stupid, that's for sure.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)That's the line my idiot brother likes to use when I say that "Snopes.com is your friend." They always have some excuse.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)She just happened to leave out the part where the other nations are rising due to accepting the same sort of rule-sets we use in the world. IOW, the other nations are rising as allies and partners because of the United States' influence.
I even offered to purchase a copy of the book and ship it to her house if she would read it. That offer she didn't take me up on. Too bad.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)And he posted a quote: "Anyone who gives up freedom for security deserves to lose both."
Asked me who said it.
Of course I knew it was Benjamin Franklin and I also knew he got the quote wrong.
I told him it was Benjamin Franklin, but the real quote is this:
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Goodbye friend!
pa28
(6,145 posts)What was his opinion on the Patriot Act or the formation of Homeland Security department?
I'll bet that was "different" somehow.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)Times up! The vulnerable and weak will be separated from those with the courage for honest strength, and hence, Freedom, to allow authentic connections.
Good luck in your endeavors, Tennessee Gal!
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)In fact, that was only the third time I posted anything politically confrontational.
But that guy has posted falsehoods - that I knew to be falsehoods - twice and I just couldn't help myself.
patrice
(47,992 posts)certain Republican been going around making it an issue to be really very horribly insulting to my friends and belittling them, so I have taken him on, without insulting him personally. Just wrote kind of a big piece on The Constitution to illustrate his Tory assumptions. Maybe I wouldn't bother if he weren't someone whose ENTIRE life was handed to him by the government that he hates: non competitive jobs, benefits, retirement, investments, practically everything, by OUR TAXES. I should block him, but I want us to see what we're up against & what the arguments are, so we can prepare.
caesars things
(26 posts)tabatha
(18,795 posts)onlyadream
(2,166 posts)Who keeps asking me why I'm afraid of freedom.
I tell him I'm not afraid of freedom, I'm afraid of unforeseen events that could bankrupt me no matter how personally responsible I am.
He's a libertarian, and thinks in very black and white terms.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)I just have to laugh at these clowns because they cannot take the heat when they post shit and are called out on it. They cannot defend their posts with facts and hate it when they are wrong.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Recounted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=777011
He insisted on spewing any old bitter crap and venom and anger and just blind viciousness - and I finally had enough. But he beat me to it and unfriended me first, before I could unfriend him.
I was patient. At first I let him vent. But he kept doing it and kept doing it and it just kept getting more and more negative and contrarian - all under the category of - "oh they're BOTH fucked, oh they're ALL bad, everybody's shitty blah-blah-blah..."
I posted a general notice (paraphrasing) - ATTENTION: We're in campaign season now. I post things here that I believe in, and I confine them to MY page. Any other posts I find that are disagreeable or go against my views will not be appreciated or tolerated, and if they're bad enough, I will delete them. I don't go posting my views on anyone else's page. I keep them on MY page. This is MY page. I will allow what I want on MY page. If you disagree or don't like it, rip me a new one on YOUR page. And I won't interfere. But MY page is MY page and I will only have posted on MY page what I wish to have posted on MY page.
And whaddya know, FIRST thing up there after this was him, complaining that "you liberals always carry on about the First Amendment and then you have a fit when somebody else posts something different."
Well, FINE, my friend. But I was very clear at the outset. If I don't like it, it WILL NOT last long on my page. Because it's MY page. And I determine what's on MY page.
And he just hated that. Wanted the privilege of poking holes in EVERYTHING I said, EVERY point I made, EVERY post I posted. EVERY view I expressed. Always found something wrong with it, always found fault with it, always with the cynicism and bitterness. I asked him personally several times to stop. He refused. "You pop up, I pop off." I issued the general alert a second time, too. He just refused to play ball. So I started deleting his posts. He HATED that and really let me have it. I deleted those as well. Life's just too short. Then, finally, there was this post that excoriated me yet again for hypocrisy regarding the First Amendment, and his parting words were: Enjoy Siberia."
So I spent a couple of moments insulted and upset, and then I realized that his multiple-posted harangues were going to be permanently missing. And that he actually did me a favor! Now, I post stuff and nobody shows up to be snarky and poke holes in my statements or links, or complain or criticize or insult me, or find fault with me or what I said, or pick my posts apart - in a broad and very angry spectrum of ways. Life's too short! I just don't need it! Even from someone I was friends with for more than 40 years and who I supported and stood by when he was going through all kinds of mess with his gay soon-to-be-ex-lover. And he's a FORMER friend now. So be it.
And finally, I thought - "okay, my friend. You go pout and condemn me and post how awful and hypocritical I am - on YOUR OWN page all you want. And you have fun with your 22 friends. I will enjoy Siberia - with my 2780-some-odd friends. On MY page."
I apologize. It brought out the bitch in me, although I tried very hard to keep that out of my posts and try to be as objective as possible, and never hostile like he was. Btw - he told me to go post on that stupid fucking Democratic Underground where they all had their heads up their asses if I didn't want people taking issue with my posts on Facebook.
So I'm doing THAT, TOO!!!!!!!
Don't let it get you down. The problems are far more theirs than yours.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Thanks for the encouragement!
Believe me I am well aware the problem is his.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)sometimes i think it boils down to "never grew up" when it comes to right wingers.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)True. The behavior exhibited my many right-wingers leads me to believe they still think they're in the kindergarten sandbox, taking everyone's little shovels and buckets while kicking sand in their faces...
Raine
(30,540 posts)first.