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Tommy Chong just announced he has cancer on CNN. (Original Post) Swede Jun 2012 OP
Again and again and again and again....... yourout Jun 2012 #1
Marijuana won't cure cancer but it sure as hell will help with virgogal Jun 2012 #2
Current research indicates otherwise. Webster Green Jun 2012 #5
I wasn't aware of that. The links would be great. Happy eating. virgogal Jun 2012 #7
here's one RainDog Jun 2012 #10
420 magazine has lots of source material on its website. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #20
Thanks for the info and link. I've been screaming for it's virgogal Jun 2012 #31
Not "miraculous," no. TheWraith Jun 2012 #14
I don't think enough evidence is available RainDog Jun 2012 #18
Yeah, I know. Webster Green Jun 2012 #19
It's definitely useful to me, and I don't mean recreationally. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #21
Gee, you'd think Tommy freakin' Chong would be cancer proof then. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #22
I don't think it's quite that black & white. Webster Green Jun 2012 #24
He's 74. It's slow-growing prostate cancer RainDog Jun 2012 #6
Thank you so much for that info. virgogal Jun 2012 #9
Yes, but old age doesn't necessarily put hundreds of thousands of dollars into the Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #11
This sort of cancer is not necessarily treated with anything RainDog Jun 2012 #12
BS. I have three friends right now that have been diagnosed, one in his 70's two in their 60's and Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #13
okay. RainDog Jun 2012 #15
Absolutely nothing, Posting while distracted with multiple tabs open. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #17
He has cancer on CNN? Does he have it on MSNBC, too? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #3
Gotta love the English language treestar Jun 2012 #26
He said he is treating it with hemp oil JitterbugPerfume Jun 2012 #4
Hemp oil is marijuana... DLine Jun 2012 #16
It is the essential oil of hemp plant, as opposed to the kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #23
Maybe he meant hash oil. There is one other patient that I just met that uses it. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #30
Slow growing prostate cancer usually doesn't need any treatment. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #8
The OP actually sounds like a stand-up comedian joke. Hang in there Tommy. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #25
That was the first thing I thought when I read it. sadbear Jun 2012 #32
One of the few "celebrities" I've ever met personally DefenseLawyer Jun 2012 #27
They had me rolling doobs backstage one night. Webster Green Jun 2012 #28
Good man. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #29

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
5. Current research indicates otherwise.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jun 2012

Cannabis has been shown to have cancer-fighting properties. It truly is a miracle herb.

I'll post links when I get a chance. I've got stuff on the grill.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
20. 420 magazine has lots of source material on its website.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:53 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/medical-marijuana/

Endless articles from everywhere on the web about ALL the medical uses for MJ.
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
31. Thanks for the info and link. I've been screaming for it's
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:49 PM
Jun 2012

legalization for about 35 years----and I've never used it.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
14. Not "miraculous," no.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jun 2012

And it's annoying when people present it as being a super-cure-all for everything. In this case it's rather obvious that if marijuana really killed cancer, chances are Tommy Chong would be the most cancer-free human being on the planet.

Yes, there's some research to suggest that THC demonstrates some qualities which MAY protect cells against cancer, but that's not the same as either curing it, or even being a sure thing that it really does have anti-cancerous properties. At this point people would be ill advised to ignore regular, proven cancer treatments in favor of smoking a lot of pot and hoping that it helps.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
18. I don't think enough evidence is available
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jun 2012

but there are some very good studies that do indicate a potential. however, nothing is a miracle... the reason cannabis may provide a treatment for cancer is because it kills off tumor cells by denying them access to cell nutrition - while leaving healthy cells intact.

One guy who has worked in this field all his life did post pictures of people whose tumors shrank - and there's the guy in CA who has an amateur vid - but neither of these rise to the level of scientific evidence via controlled studies.

And it's not just the THC that's involved. CBD, another cannabinoid, has shown some great results for cancer treatment in the human test phase to shrink brain tumors - but those tumors were already lethal. It did shrink them, however, by the process described above.

I don't think anyone would recommend that anyone forgo regular health care treatment.

But maybe Chong, since prostate cancer like his generally goes untreated, is making himself a public test subject. I'm sure his doctor is keeping track of the progress of the cancer.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
19. Yeah, I know.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:41 AM
Jun 2012

How about "amazing"? I'm referring to the many, many uses of cannabis, from industrial hemp to the various medicinal uses, as well as the recreational value.

I call it a miracle herb, but I don't really even believe in miracles. I don't mean it literally, but it is arguably the most useful plant known to man.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
22. Gee, you'd think Tommy freakin' Chong would be cancer proof then.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:55 AM
Jun 2012

Grilling causes carcinogenic compounds to form in meats, btw.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
24. I don't think it's quite that black & white.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:42 AM
Jun 2012

Cannabis has showed promise in this area, and deserves further research, not prohibition.

Grilling may well cause carcinogens, but there are also quality of life issues involved here.

.............."and I'm still......grillin' ".

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
6. He's 74. It's slow-growing prostate cancer
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jun 2012

I don't know if this applies to him - but I heard a doctor on NPR the other day talking about balancing quality of life against treatment after a certain age for non-aggressive prostate cancer.

More than 80% of men will develop prostate cancer by the age of 80. However, in the majority of cases, it will be slow-growing and harmless. In such men, diagnosing prostate cancer is overdiagnosis—the needless identification of a technically aberrant condition that will never harm the patient—and treatment in such men exposes them to all of the adverse effects, with no possibility of extending their lives.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer

So, after a certain age, it seems like old age in general will get you before the cancer does - and the treatment is more likely to get you than the cancer, too.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
11. Yes, but old age doesn't necessarily put hundreds of thousands of dollars into the
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jun 2012

pockets of Big Med, Big Pharma, & the health insurance industry.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
12. This sort of cancer is not necessarily treated with anything
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jun 2012

depending upon the age of the patient and whether the cancer is aggressive or not.

Actually, old age seems to put a lot of money into the pockets of big med and the heath insurance industry.

this is just one situation in which it doesn't.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
13. BS. I have three friends right now that have been diagnosed, one in his 70's two in their 60's and
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jun 2012

all three have been treated to the hard sell by their respective doctors. Two are peripherally in the medical field so they know it's BS, but the third...

Putting your faith in the medical industry is the fast track to months of torture while they drain your assets. Once you're broke and the insurance company's not paying so quickly, then they let you die, but in excruciating pain of course, can't have you being addicted to pain meds, the DEA is always watching.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
23. It is the essential oil of hemp plant, as opposed to the
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:56 AM
Jun 2012

commercially available hemp seed oil, or the alcohol extract.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
30. Maybe he meant hash oil. There is one other patient that I just met that uses it.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
Jun 2012

over the weekend:

And he is the youngest RECORDED MMJ patient. At age 4.

His name is Cashy. http://coconnect.me/2012/02/23/boy-of-steel-cancer-free-again/

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
8. Slow growing prostate cancer usually doesn't need any treatment.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jun 2012

So it's just business as usual for Chong.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
32. That was the first thing I thought when I read it.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jun 2012

A joke. Sadly, no. Hang in there, Tommy. We're with you.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
27. One of the few "celebrities" I've ever met personally
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jun 2012

He's a really down to earth and thoughtful guy. Fight the good fight, Tommy.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
28. They had me rolling doobs backstage one night.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jun 2012

They opened for Blood Sweat Tears at some college we played. I was mixing monitors, and had nothing to do while Cheech & Chong were on stage. They had a little changing room right offstage, and asked me to sit in there and roll a bunch of joints.

That's one of my favorite road stories.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
29. Good man.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jun 2012

Now he has a legal reason to toke it up.

Like I do.

(just waiting for the kid to go to bed so I can enjoy a toke outside)

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