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Nay

(12,051 posts)
1. Several reasons -- alligators are not a protected species or rare, and are
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jun 2016

regularly killed for food (gator bites) in the South.

Everyone realizes that Disney truly fucked up by providing man-made beaches for young families to frolic on, while neglecting to post signs to warn said families that alligators were in the lagoon, were dangerous, could come out of the water fast, and that they loved to eat small mammals.

Alligators are not apes and are perceived as being way down on the evolutionary list, thus not anywhere near as valuable.

That poor child was killed -- in a horrific accident that chills the bones of anyone who knows a 2-yr-old. The attempt to catch and kill the gator that did this isn't bloodthirsty; it's an attempt to stop a gator that was willing to attack a human.

I personally thought the decision to shoot the ape was the correct one. I think what Disney is doing now is too little, too late, and they'll be paying out money in a lawsuit because they were too squeamish to warn people of the real dangers.

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
3. Very true...alligator meat is readily available in food stores here in Mississippi
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

I have never tasted it, but I have no moral objection to eating it, just the same squeamishness that prevents me from eating snake. (This, from someone who has eaten and enjoyed squid, sea urchin, escargot, frogs' legs, etc.) It was a horrible tragedy about the little boy, and Disney should have posted warning signs.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
2. Steve Irwin Foundation, PETA, Stop Animal Exploitation Now, and Direct Action Everywhere
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

Steve Irwin Foundation, PETA, Stop Animal Exploitation Now, and Direct Action Everywhere have each issued strong, explicit and emphatic statements.

It's easy to overlook that which does not validate our biases.

avatar123

(2 posts)
6. A few reasons....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

1. Gators are not endangered like gorillas.

2. It wasn't clear the gorilla would murder the child. If he had people would have been less upset if he was later euthanized.

3. Gorillas are mammals, more 'human-like' in appearance and intelligence. Gators are pea-brained eating machines who probably don't know what's happening to them.

Still, they had no choice once the gorilla started dragging the kid. Some female gorillas have been known to 'hand back' children to humans. But male gorillas are more aggressive.

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
9. I don't understand how the whole thing transpired....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:53 PM - Edit history (1)

"The boy's family was at a movie night outdoors at the Grand Floridian resort when around 9 p.m. the boy waded into about a foot of water in a lagoon, authorities have said. Witnesses, including the boy's horrified parents, tried to save him. His father jumped in and tried to pry the gator's mouth open. His mother jumped in, too."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/


So they were watching a movie and didn't see the child wander off? Where the heck was the movie being shown? At 9:00 it's pretty dark and must have been dark in that area for the hotel to be able to show a movie.

I feel for the parents, as I do for all parents who lose as child. And this was particularly horrendous. To see your child being dragged off crying for you. I can't imagine.

But I just don't understand how the child was not under the complete control of the parents, in the dark, around water.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
10. Sunset now actually about 8:30 pm Eastern..
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

Just barely dusk, light enough for outdoor activities.

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
13. Yes, I know, I live not far from Orlando. By the time it's 9:00 it's dark.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe not midnight dark, but dark enough. Still why would you not have your 2 yo child under constant surveillance?

They were at the pool to watch the movie, the water's edge is a good distance away.

"DISNEY'S GRAND FLORIDIAN RESORT AND VILLAS MOVIE SCHEDULE
Disney's Grand Floridian "Movies Under the Stars" schedule.
Movie starts at 8:30 pm near the beach pool"


Doremus

(7,261 posts)
16. omg I've been on that same beach at movie time
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jun 2016

They hold a 'drive in' movie every night there. Families are invited to sit in beach chairs or on the sand and watch a Disney feature.

I didn't realize that was the beach where the attack occurred. I also for sure didn't realize there were alligators in the GD water!!! The more I learn about this tragedy the madder I get at Disney.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Funny how selective hearing works.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

Hence, if you didn't hear it, it didn't happen?

Funny how selective hearing works.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
14. I think Orlando has some much bigger fish to fry right now.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jun 2016

Man this tragedy is horrible on every level but people are turning this into some kind of ridiculous conspiracy where it doesn't need to be one. Same with the incident in Cincinnati.

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