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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:55 AM Jun 2016

Trump is a bad influence on Americans.

Trump brings out the worst in Americans. All the hate he spreads is doing harm. Not just to republicans, but every American. It is a dark infection.
Why do people on the right allow this to continue?

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Trump is a bad influence on Americans. (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2016 OP
Why, LFR? elleng Jun 2016 #1
Trump makes them even worse. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2016 #3
Yes, he does. elleng Jun 2016 #4
''neurolinguistic triggering'': classic sleazy, systematized marketing/PR stratagems: Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #5
He does sound like a cross between a sleazy preacher and a pyramid marketing conman muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #12
It is like Sarah Palin all over again only this time the dangerous know applegrove Jun 2016 #2
It's always been there JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #6
Ya THINK??? Night Watchman Jun 2016 #7
He's not the disease. He's just the symptom. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2016 #8
faux protestant work ethic and gospel of wealth busllshit combined with rabid know nothing AntiBank Jun 2016 #9
Living abroad LittleGirl Jun 2016 #10
Trump is still tied with Clinton in Pennsylvania PADemD Jun 2016 #11

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
3. Trump makes them even worse.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jun 2016

He even brings the nasty out of many of the rest of us. We have to beat him in november for the sake of the emotional status of the USA and the world.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
4. Yes, he does.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:07 AM
Jun 2016

The link I posted was from a high school classmate of mine, a righty with whom I don't engage re: politics. I don't want to think of her as so nasty, but there it is.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
5. ''neurolinguistic triggering'': classic sleazy, systematized marketing/PR stratagems:
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:11 AM
Jun 2016

people that never look past the surface are most easily fooled by cheap, cheesy, REPETITIVE appeals to emotion

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-surprising-reason-donald-trump-is-so-persuasive-as-a-candidate-2015-8



Lots of people who say they are for Trump don't know the first thing about where he stands on any issue this side of immigration, according to Cillizza. His is not a policy appeal or even really a political one. Trump's appeal is almost entirely based in emotional triggers.

But we're not looking at a one-trigger horse, here, either. To be powerfully persuasive one must activate as many of the core triggers as possible, and Trump fires on at least a couple more of those emotional cylinders pretty effectively.

Trump's business acumen is the obvious authority trigger for an electorate mistrustful of government. His narrative as a kid from the Bronx who made a mint helps him establish a foundation of sameness, the critical component of the friendship trigger, which is the basis for every other persuasive opportunity. Even Trump's reputation for the gaudy and tacky help align him as a friend of the people; he may live like an elitist, but no one ever mistakes him for being one.

In the world of the limbic brain, driven by the deeply primal amygdala, solutions to the plethora of choices and options in the universe are developed with astonishing efficiency by circumventing logic and reason completely. Our brains will go to great lengths to avoid the heavy lifting of cognitive analysis and induce us to make decisions using emotion


by a guy who's literally written the book on how to con the rubes
http://the7triggers.com/

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
12. He does sound like a cross between a sleazy preacher and a pyramid marketing conman
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:18 AM
Jun 2016

Constant invocation of "you'll win", "I'm so great" and other simplistic, content-free phrases. It's the kind of talk that sets off alarm bells for me at once, but not so for a section of society.

applegrove

(118,654 posts)
2. It is like Sarah Palin all over again only this time the dangerous know
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jun 2016

nothing is in the presidential slot. Someone tell the GOP: holding your breath for 4 1/2 months is going to be really hard.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
8. He's not the disease. He's just the symptom.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:07 AM
Jun 2016

Sadly, the GOP political class has been appealing to the worst human instincts for decades. I remember Rosalind Carter saying that Ronald Reagan was a man who 'made us comfortable with our own prejudices.' Basically true. It was during the Reagan Administration that people were told it was essentially okay to hate poor people. Because, after all, if wealthy people are wealthy because they're moral and hard working, it stands to reason that the converse is also true. People are poor because they're lazy and immoral.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
9. faux protestant work ethic and gospel of wealth busllshit combined with rabid know nothing
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:41 AM
Jun 2016

xenophobia and racial/ethnic scapegoating. Add in a not-even-tacit at times call to violence, and you have a 21-st century carnival barker for reactionary chaos.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
10. Living abroad
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:50 AM
Jun 2016

makes it downright frustrating too! Every single expat I've met from South Africa to the UK has asked me about drumpf. Makes me furious that I am associated to that asshole just because I'm american. ugh. I wished he'd shut up and go away.

The GOP needs to own this one.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
11. Trump is still tied with Clinton in Pennsylvania
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:13 AM
Jun 2016

The race changed little from the last month in Pennsylvania, with Clinton up 42 percent to 41 percent, comparable to the same results from May (43 percent to 42 percent in favor of Clinton). While Clinton leads 50 percent to 34 percent among women, Trump leads 50 percent to 33 percent among men. Among white voters, Trump leads 47 percent to 38 percent, while Clinton leads among non-whites 66 percent to 15 percent.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/06/trump-florida-ohio-battleground-polls-224568

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