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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIsn't it quaint how David Cameron can leave his child in a pub...
...and it's only called a humorous mix-up between he and his wife? But if any one of us left a child in a pub -- or even took the child into a freakin' pub, for that matter -- we'd be answering for it in court? I just find that somewhat amusing. In an un-amusing sort of way.
mainer
(12,034 posts)Here, you'd get into trouble just taking your kid into an establishment that serves mainly alcohol.
I think it's amusing that the staff of the pub just took it in stride and watched after the girl.
Atman
(31,464 posts)It's lots of things. The word "amusing" just never came to mind. But maybe it's just me..
jeff47
(26,549 posts)You shouldn't think of it as a bar. You should think of it as an Applebee's.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Nor a Chili's, nor Ruby Tuesday, nor 99...what's your point?
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jeff47
(26,549 posts)You seemed to be quite troubled that they brought a child to a bar, as well as forgetting them there.
Are you serious?
What was my OP? I asked, how many of us would allowed to just laugh off an incident of leaving a child in a bar -- a restaurant -- a carawash -- a 711, as if it freaking matters? -- the way this Cameron story is being covered? Once again, if you're in a dark suit and good at bullshit, you can talk your way out of anything. If you're a regular Joe, probably not so much.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)That part only makes sense if you think a pub is a bar.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Don't forget your kids at the pub tonight.
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jeff47
(26,549 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)My computer doesn't have that feature. I can only read what people post.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Option 1: Ignore the corrections.
Option 2: "Oh, I didn't realize 'pub' was different in the UK".
Option 3: "RED ALERT!!! Must distance self from earlier comments and deride other posters!! Aooooo-gah! Aoooooo-gah!"
So why'd you choose #3?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)And if any of us left a child at McDonalds we would be vilified for it.
But the rich and powerful are different. Either don't vilify an ordinary person, or vilify everyone who forgets their child.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Aaaaoooo-gah, yourself. I stand by my op and my subsequent replies. If you think it's fine to leave your children behind in restaurants, by all means, do so. Then post to tell us how "amusing" the authorities found it.
Aaaaaaoooh-gah!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)serve alcohol.
Pubs - or Public Houses - are usually neighborhood "halls" that serve local comfort foods and some booze.
I took my then 4-year-old to many pubs when we visited England. It wasn't a big deal.
(Of course, I didn't leave him, but I didn't assume he was other members of my party, either).
To everything you wrote.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)belcffub
(595 posts)we rent one out sometime for family events... they even serve alcohol while the kids are present... heck just about all the fire halls here have bars and kids are around them all the time...
Atman
(31,464 posts)Just sayin.'
but I really don't frequent bars... and my kids talk to much for me to forget them anywhere... the silence would scare me...
Enrique
(27,461 posts)I bet if it was a black woman that left her baby in her neighborhood bar, these same people wouldn't relate as readily.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Some bars here have family nights, and the children are often running around and having a blast.
I don't take my children to bars, but I don't judge those who do.
Atman
(31,464 posts)David Cameron is/was a big British leader. I, personally, would assume he has "staff" around him, but I could be wrong. Either way, this big leader guys LEFT HIS FUCKING KID IN A BAR. I don't care what you call the place...he went home without his child!
This isn't Montana, and the point isn't taking your kid to a pub. It's about FORGETTING YOUR KID AT THE PUB, and then laughing it off as just an amusing farce. As others in this thread have pointed out, and as I tried to in the OP, who among us would not have been called into the precinct for questioning, and perhaps had DYS pay us a visit, if we'd have left our 8 year old child in a bar???
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ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)would lead readers of my post to that conclusion. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I should have been more clear.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)My in-laws once left my niece at a tavern in Williamsburg (VA) for a few minutes, when each thought she was with the other. Should they have gone to prison? Or been sentenced to community service? I think this kind of thing happens more than you think; we only heard about the Cameron incident because he's the Prime Minister.
You're doing a lot of disapproving finger-wagging in this thread, but we are not all perfect.
mainer
(12,034 posts)that parents are human and can get so frazzled, they make mistakes.
I found this anecdote "amusing" because it has this innocent feel of a small village, people looking out for each other, pub owners and barmaids pitching in to watch a kid. To be pointing fingers and turning this into some sort of screaming morality lesson reminds me that some people have all the charm of Church Lady.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)on the same idiotic things we are.
And in England it is more of a family institution, and family friendly.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)JI7
(89,281 posts)over things that others wouldn't.
if it was a republican the story would be different.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)Each time it was late, the kid was asleep in a booth and the mother was playing a keno or poker machine. They were not drinking. Still don't matter.
How many people leave a child in a locked hot car, sober. I can't even imagine that horror.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,400 posts)so it's not that unusual - and no-one was made to 'answer' for it in any way.
So, yes, it's pretty much amusing, to us in the UK.
The best story I've heard so far was the parents who forgot to bring their child to its christening.