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gopiscrap

(23,760 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:49 AM Jul 2016

It is high time to declare the NRA for what it is:

Both a domestic terrorist organization and a public health menace.

SHUT THOSE FUCKERS DOWN!!! Where else in the world do you see this sort of stuff happening with such regularity? Just in the USA Why mainly because of the NRA's ginning up of gun fetishism and their out and out extortion of elected officials

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It is high time to declare the NRA for what it is: (Original Post) gopiscrap Jul 2016 OP
Great TeddyR Jul 2016 #1
ISIS is a political organization, and I disagree with its message dumbcat Jul 2016 #2
Ridiculous comparison TeddyR Jul 2016 #3
ISIS kills a shit tonne of Muslims too AntiBank Jul 2016 #6
The NRA is a political organization? onehandle Jul 2016 #5
If the NRA is a political org gopiscrap Jul 2016 #7
The political arm of the NRA doesn't have a 501 c 3. nt hack89 Jul 2016 #10
The NRA is actually several separate organizations under common leadership hack89 Jul 2016 #9
+1 million geardaddy Jul 2016 #19
Authoritarians such as yourself often try to take advantage of times of crisis. tritsofme Jul 2016 #4
Time to amend the sacrosanct Constitution. The Second Amendment must go. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8
Who would declare it a menace, whose declaration would carry the force of law, and who... Marengo Jul 2016 #12
Black Lives Matter is a menace to the public in its present configuration. tritsofme Jul 2016 #13
Oh dear. Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #14
Interesting rockfordfile Jul 2016 #20
You realize that would be purely symbolic, right? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #16
NRA is a racist organization. They never spoke in favor of the 2 black men with concealed carry craigmatic Jul 2016 #11
Really? Calculating Jul 2016 #15
LOL Skittles Jul 2016 #21
Why does the NRA keep inciting these people! Stop the NRA now! ileus Jul 2016 #17
The NRA is a extremist right wing group rockfordfile Jul 2016 #18
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
1. Great
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jul 2016

Now you want to shut down a political organization because you disagree with its message. I'm no NRA fan but I prefer that we don't start trampling on the rights of those we disagree with. If people really think that the NRA is the problem (and I don't think it is the bogeyman the left makes it out to be - the NRA didn't pull the trigger in Dallas) and those people are motivated enough then they'll form a political group to counter the NRA. But the fact is that the anti-gun types will complain on the internet but when it comes time to actually donating money or time to oppose the NRA they take a pass.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
2. ISIS is a political organization, and I disagree with its message
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

and I would like to trample on their rights and shut them down.

Is that OK with you? Just checking before I continue.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
3. Ridiculous comparison
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jul 2016

ISIS is a terrorist group that actively promotes and engages in the murder of non-Muslims. The NRA doesn't advocate or engage in such acts.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. The NRA is actually several separate organizations under common leadership
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jul 2016

Parts of it are non-profit but others are explicitly political

NRA Institute for Legislative Action

The NRA Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) manages the NRA's Political Action Committee (PAC). Some of its activities include retaining lobbyists to support gun-rights legislation and election operations such as the purchase of campaign advertising.[158]

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
4. Authoritarians such as yourself often try to take advantage of times of crisis.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jul 2016

It is always sad and pathetic.

What kind of coward is so weak in their argument that they must burn down the First Amendment to silence their critics?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. Time to amend the sacrosanct Constitution. The Second Amendment must go.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jul 2016

It's relevance is long past.

The US is no longer a small, insolvent and largely powerless ex-colony. It can and does entrust its defense to a well-armed, competent standing army.

The need for a citizens' militia has long since disappeared.

Then, declare the NRA to be a menace to public order in its present configuration. Either force it to overhaul itself or disband it.



 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
12. Who would declare it a menace, whose declaration would carry the force of law, and who...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

Would force it to overhaul or disband?

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
13. Black Lives Matter is a menace to the public in its present configuration.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jul 2016

Either force it to overhaul itself or disband it. Same goes for MoveOn, Planned Parenthood, Sierra Club, NARAL, et al.

Would these be fair policies for a Republican administration to pursue? Or do you only support suppressing the political speech of those who disagree with you?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
16. You realize that would be purely symbolic, right?
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jul 2016

That is to say, you could revoke the 2nd Am and even explicitly prohibit civilian ownership of firearms...and civilians would still own firearms by the millions. A ban is completely unenforceable.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
11. NRA is a racist organization. They never spoke in favor of the 2 black men with concealed carry
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

permits killed by the cops.

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