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"Cleveland Police union asking Ohio gov. for temporary end to legal open carry of weapons during GOP (Original Post) villager Jul 2016 OP
No. Bring the guns. Bring them to the convention. The world is so fuckin scary seabeyond Jul 2016 #1
I know, right? cwydro Jul 2016 #2
And squirt guns PatSeg Jul 2016 #5
They will be safer with lots of good guys with guns at the convention. nt Xipe Totec Jul 2016 #3
If open carry isn't acceptable during SheilaT Jul 2016 #4
The American worldview is rife with such cognitive inconsistencies. ronnie624 Jul 2016 #11
I read that as "The American worldview is rifle..." Orrex Jul 2016 #16
I think it is the venue that isn't allowing guns MiniMe Jul 2016 #18
Then the NRA itself, SheilaT Jul 2016 #21
That's a capital idea. Iggo Jul 2016 #30
Paraphrasing here: "Gun humpers are polite people" TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #6
Open carry should be banned. PM Martin Jul 2016 #7
Some of the replies... tenderfoot Jul 2016 #8
Could the Ohio governor even do anything? Statistical Jul 2016 #9
No fuckers, if it's good enough for the rest of us, you've got to accept them there NightWatcher Jul 2016 #10
They made their bed . . . - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #12
+1000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #14
So to the CLEVELAND POLICE UNION, you say: "No fuckers, ...you've got to accept them there" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #19
Every single day, every single interaction, we have to be aware. These are the people that seabeyond Jul 2016 #20
You're saying the Cleveland Police Union, the agency that asked for the change, is responsible for cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #24
Don't you think the majority of the police and other are Republicans voting for the people, seabeyond Jul 2016 #25
EIGHT dead LEOs in one week... "why should they be special and not have to live with it?" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #26
I was talking about republicans as a whole, seeing as we are talking the Republican convention. seabeyond Jul 2016 #27
Yeap, gumpers should eat this shit all day long uponit7771 Jul 2016 #28
Because "important people" will be there? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2016 #13
possibly CPD has poorly trained officers who can't tell when a kid has a toy irisblue Jul 2016 #15
+1, roll 2 feet away from the supposed 'threat' to shoot it too...stupid and unsafe uponit7771 Jul 2016 #29
Reasonable request. Which is why it will be totally ignored. n/t. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #17
Kasich just said no. Eugene Jul 2016 #22
What a good little Republican governor. nt villager Jul 2016 #23
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. No. Bring the guns. Bring them to the convention. The world is so fuckin scary
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jul 2016

for these people. They all need to protect themselves from each other. They have created this world for all of us to have to live in, let them feel the repercussions their fears created.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. If open carry isn't acceptable during
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jul 2016

the RNC, why in the world is it acceptable at any other time? Someone help me understand this.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
11. The American worldview is rife with such cognitive inconsistencies.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jul 2016

Perhaps the most propaganda-addled population on earth.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
18. I think it is the venue that isn't allowing guns
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jul 2016

Something about them not being able to get insurance if guns are allowed. Gee, I wonder why that is.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
8. Some of the replies...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jul 2016

true. But if we could give up a little freedom for a week to save a life, should we?



Statistical

(19,264 posts)
9. Could the Ohio governor even do anything?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jul 2016

Open carry is legal maybe it shouldn't be but it is. The governor unilaterally making it illegal even temporarily wouldn't pass any legal scrutiny. The legislature would need to revise the ohio statute to make open carry of firearms unlawful. I have to image the Police Union knows this.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
19. So to the CLEVELAND POLICE UNION, you say: "No fuckers, ...you've got to accept them there"
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jul 2016

The person who replied to that opinion said "They made their bed" and one other says "+1000". To the Cleveland Police Union.

The Cleveland Police Union is concerned for their safety and that of the populace, and you tell them to fuck off and deal with it.

Got it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. Every single day, every single interaction, we have to be aware. These are the people that
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jul 2016

fought for concealed and unconcealed weapons for all of us to live with.

They get to be safe, while every day, the threat is there for us.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
24. You're saying the Cleveland Police Union, the agency that asked for the change, is responsible for
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jul 2016

fighting for concealed and unconcealed weapons for "all of us" to live with? And so should be forced to face the consequences of paranoid assholes carrying guns during the gopper convention?

Am I missing something?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
25. Don't you think the majority of the police and other are Republicans voting for the people,
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jul 2016

supporting the people that are passing the laws for concealed and unconcealed weapons?

And ya, if we have to live with it daily, why should they be special and not have to live with it? They promoted, voted for, implemented and use the laws.

Today, we are ALL forced to live with paranoid, frightened, angry, stupid or careless assholes carrying guns.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
26. EIGHT dead LEOs in one week... "why should they be special and not have to live with it?"
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

Dead after being ambushed. Yeah, I'd say they're "living with it".

I don't get something though... how does a Law Enforcement Officer "implement" a concealed carry law?

"Hey, cops... fuck you! You're Republicans voting for people who pass concealed weapons laws! Live with it and die with it! Get some!" That might be where you come from, but I can't get to that point even though I think we'd be better off firing them all and hiring new police forces across the nation.

How many people do you know who were murdered in ambushes in the last week? "Live with it daily"?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. I was talking about republicans as a whole, seeing as we are talking the Republican convention.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

But hey Cherokee... Keep that rant up implying that I am cheering the death of police.

How many people are dead, randomly, daily, with some dumb fuck and his gun?

Ya, I value those lives too. Not to mention all of us held hostage to the possible gun owner now.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
13. Because "important people" will be there?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jul 2016

Horse feathers. If the rest of us have to live with the threat of armed-to-the-teeth gun humpers, then suck it up. Maybe more "good guys" will fix it.

You don't selectively regulate assault weapons because its too close to home. All or none.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
15. possibly CPD has poorly trained officers who can't tell when a kid has a toy
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jul 2016

The city could never afford multiple wrongful death lawsuits.

Eugene

(61,874 posts)
22. Kasich just said no.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jul 2016

Reuters banner, no link yet:

Ohio governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend constitutional rights as suggested by police union: Gov. Kasich

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