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IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:41 AM Jul 2016

DONALD TRUMP’S GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

Last June, as dusk fell outside Tony Schwartz’s sprawling house, on a leafy back road in Riverdale, New York, he pulled out his laptop and caught up with the day’s big news: Donald J. Trump had declared his candidacy for President. As Schwartz watched a video of the speech, he began to feel personally implicated.



Trump, facing a crowd that had gathered in the lobby of Trump Tower, on Fifth Avenue, laid out his qualifications, saying, “We need a leader that wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ” If that was so, Schwartz thought, then he, not Trump, should be running. Schwartz dashed off a tweet: “Many thanks Donald Trump for suggesting I run for President, based on the fact that I wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ”

Schwartz had ghostwritten Trump’s 1987 breakthrough memoir, earning a joint byline on the cover, half of the book’s five-hundred-thousand-dollar advance, and half of the royalties. The book was a phenomenal success, spending forty-eight weeks on the Times best-seller list, thirteen of them at No. 1. More than a million copies have been bought, generating several million dollars in royalties. The book expanded Trump’s renown far beyond New York City, making him an emblem of the successful tycoon. Edward Kosner, the former editor and publisher of New York, where Schwartz worked as a writer at the time, says, “Tony created Trump. He’s Dr. Frankenstein.”

Starting in late 1985, Schwartz spent eighteen months with Trump—camping out in his office, joining him on his helicopter, tagging along at meetings, and spending weekends with him at his Manhattan apartment and his Florida estate. During that period, Schwartz felt, he had got to know him better than almost anyone else outside the Trump family. Until Schwartz posted the tweet, though, he had not spoken publicly about Trump for decades. It had never been his ambition to be a ghostwriter, and he had been glad to move on. But, as he watched a replay of the new candidate holding forth for forty-five minutes, he noticed something strange: over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, “If he could lie about that on Day One—when it was so easily refuted—he is likely to lie about anything.”



“I put lipstick on a pig,” he said. “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.” He went on, “I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

If he were writing “The Art of the Deal” today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, “The Sociopath.”


This is an interesting read from the New Yorker. If you read through to the end it is typical Trump. Confirming a lot of our views on his temperament and ego.
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DONALD TRUMP’S GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL (Original Post) IronLionZion Jul 2016 OP
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1
He was just on 'Good Morning America' - good to see this getting some attention groundloop Jul 2016 #2
Oh he was? I've got to find that tape!! He should be on cable and news 24 hours a day! PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #24
Bookmarked for BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #3
I'm currently reading the old book "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis Javaman Jul 2016 #4
Just be aware that American Psycho is a difficult read with lots of triggers. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #28
Yes, it is a challenge and reading up about the author... Javaman Jul 2016 #32
I much prefer the short-lived musical. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #33
Wow, that must have been something! Javaman Jul 2016 #34
Jane Mayer wrote the New Yorker piece. klook Jul 2016 #5
She also wrote "The Dark Side" about Cheney's lawyers justification for torture. underpants Jul 2016 #14
also the seminal, ahem, book on Clarence Thomas: Strange Justice, Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #42
Trump demands loyalty of anyone treestar Jul 2016 #6
I wonder if Trump paid him in full for his work? MiniMe Jul 2016 #7
He wanted the guy to write a sequel treestar Jul 2016 #9
If I read that right in article JNelson6563 Jul 2016 #10
At the time he probably thought... Adrahil Jul 2016 #15
The book was written 30 years ago IronLionZion Jul 2016 #20
It took a village to make Trump into The Donald and people like Tony who took the cash Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #8
If you read it sounds like he feels culpable and wants to correct it. nolabear Jul 2016 #37
“But I knew I was selling out. Literally, the term was invented to describe what I did.” jtuck004 Jul 2016 #11
He's a fraud. Big surprise. underpants Jul 2016 #12
So totally NOT a surprise. It is 100% in keeping with the annabanana Jul 2016 #13
It's an interesting read but it won't make any difference. tavernier Jul 2016 #16
Where was the non-disclosure clause on this? Brainstormy Jul 2016 #17
I'm wondering the same thing PatSeg Jul 2016 #19
I wonder if he's hoping there are so many suits going he'll sneak it in. nolabear Jul 2016 #38
I find Mr. Schwartz's comment "The Sociopath" very interesting. tanyev Jul 2016 #18
Great read. nruthie Jul 2016 #21
Yep, and only certain types greymattermom Jul 2016 #23
OH MY GOD!! I knew it was BAD, but I had no idea how BAD he really is! PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #22
i have a friend who worked in a law office in new york years ago. mopinko Jul 2016 #25
K&R Go to the link and read it all. trof Jul 2016 #26
Yikes. He is worse than I thought. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #27
Donald Trump Plugs Art of the Deal and The Bible During Alabama Speech IronLionZion Jul 2016 #29
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #30
The New Yorker article is really good. Well worth reading and well written. Shrike47 Jul 2016 #31
For the sake of humanity, the following NEEDS to go viral... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #35
Unfortunately NewJeffCT Jul 2016 #39
His followers see his sociopathic tendencies as a virtue Politicub Jul 2016 #36
Yeah, at this point it's all about getting independent TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #40
The Sociopath malaise Jul 2016 #41
K&R red dog 1 Jul 2016 #43
he's coming up next on msnbc Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #44
Yup, illegal immigrants won't collect social security or medicare IronLionZion Jul 2016 #45
I saw that bit, and thought... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #46
Very interesting read. K&R demmiblue Jul 2016 #47

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
24. Oh he was? I've got to find that tape!! He should be on cable and news 24 hours a day!
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

This has to be spread far and wide!! Our country's future (and the planet's) is at stake!





Javaman

(62,534 posts)
4. I'm currently reading the old book "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jul 2016

and trump is referred to in the book several times as some sort of example of what to aspire to.

If you haven't read the book, it's a truly amazing look into the brokers of wall street pre-1989 crash and their level of vapid over indulgence.

here is the wiki like about the book and the author:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
28. Just be aware that American Psycho is a difficult read with lots of triggers.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jul 2016

The book includes explicit descriptions of violence, misogyny, animal killing and cruelty, as well as intentionally boring stretches of clothing descriptions and essays about 80s music.

It breaks convention and might be considered a daring piece of literature, but it's not a breezy airplane read.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
32. Yes, it is a challenge and reading up about the author...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jul 2016

he confesses to the fact that he lived just like the main character Bateman without the killing.

everyone in the book are loathsome individuals, but it gives a good view into that bizarre lifestyle.

The bizarre obsession by those in the book with image and lifestyle is fascinating.

and yes, there are long stretches of very boring descriptions of their gewgaws of wealth, but I look at those passages more on the level of an OCD type who thinks that these items of novelty are what define them. and in the reality of the characters, those things do. And that's why the long descriptions of electronics, clothing and music, give fabric to the level of superficiality of the characters. Painting a deeper portrait of a person with out any real intrinsic worth. Just fleeting materialism to cover for lack of real substance.

I also find fascinating the level of grooming Bateman employees to stay "young". it's comical. I think that's the intent of the author to paint a picture of a modern day clown to maintain his visual performance.

The author stated that he first wrote all about the lifestyle of the characters, then wrote the passages of the murders and the sadistic sexual fantasies later. then interwove the two. He did say, that while he personally didn't partake in the various sadistic fantasies, he knew of a number of his fellow workers that would tell him of their sexual exploits while he was out with them. Many of the sadistic exploits were used for the book.


forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
33. I much prefer the short-lived musical.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

I see why it closed, but it was dazzlingly imaginative and must less of a slog than the book. And the Trump lines get laughs.


The movie is good too!

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
34. Wow, that must have been something!
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

I'm holding off from watching the movie until I finish the book.

Once upon a time, in my primordial days, I was at the Sun Dance film festival when American Psycho was premiering. I had a chance to go to the premier, however, I instead chose to go to a party for another film, which name completely escapes me at the moment, that stared no body and never went on to be a success, but the band at the party was The Cult. LOL That's why I went to that instead of the premier for American Psycho. LOL

klook

(12,165 posts)
5. Jane Mayer wrote the New Yorker piece.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jul 2016

She's the author of "Dark Money," the book about how the Koch bros. and other plutocrats bought control of the American political system. So this promises to be a good read.

underpants

(182,876 posts)
14. She also wrote "The Dark Side" about Cheney's lawyers justification for torture.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jul 2016

That is a great read.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
42. also the seminal, ahem, book on Clarence Thomas: Strange Justice,
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jul 2016

which has been the source of two movies, one which I've seen

once again....thanks, Joe Biden, for allowing this perverted perjurer to slime trail his way to a permanent job.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. Trump demands loyalty of anyone
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jul 2016

he was involved with! A guy wrote his book 30 years ago and owes everything to Trump!

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
7. I wonder if Trump paid him in full for his work?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jul 2016

Since tRump has a habit of not paying his bills in full

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. He wanted the guy to write a sequel
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

with a third of the profits when the first one was half! And had a party and charged the writer half the expenses without making that a deal first!

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
10. If I read that right in article
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jul 2016

I think the publisher handled the deal. It's very likely the writer got wealthy off the book. He is donating his share of book proceeds from 2016 to charities that support people Trump hates.

Barely makes a dent in his karma bill imo.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. At the time he probably thought...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jul 2016

he was just writing one the thousands of bullshit business books that come out every year. He had no idea this ignoramus would actually get the GOP nomination. I mean, who would? If I saw a movie about this, I'd consider it unrealistic.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
20. The book was written 30 years ago
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

Trump was not nearly as well known back then and no one was considering him for political office. He was mainly known in NYC for real estate development.

hindsight is 20/20

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. It took a village to make Trump into The Donald and people like Tony who took the cash
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:29 AM
Jul 2016

to polish what he had to have known was a racist turd should feel culpable, Tony is culpable.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
37. If you read it sounds like he feels culpable and wants to correct it.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jul 2016

It's a fascinating article and rings entirely true.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. “But I knew I was selling out. Literally, the term was invented to describe what I did.”
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jul 2016

I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

Jay Gould - US financier & railroad businessman (1836 - 1892)

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
13. So totally NOT a surprise. It is 100% in keeping with the
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jul 2016

Donald we have seen all these months. He may even believe tht he wrote the damn thing by now. Sociopath personified.

tavernier

(12,399 posts)
16. It's an interesting read but it won't make any difference.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jul 2016

The damage is done. Trump will point out that he himself did most of the writing, and this guy just rode his generous shirt tails for the money.

Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)
17. Where was the non-disclosure clause on this?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jul 2016

I'm flabbergasted. I've been a ghostwriter for 15 years. My clients, virtual nobodies in comparison to Trump, would sue the shit out of me for even saying that I wrote their book. The "with" by-line helps, but it doesn't allow for this kind of tell all.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
19. I'm wondering the same thing
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

Trump gets non-disclosure agreements from everyone and he is a litigation addict. He sues people at the drop of hat.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
38. I wonder if he's hoping there are so many suits going he'll sneak it in.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

Or he really is guilty and is willing to pay.

tanyev

(42,608 posts)
18. I find Mr. Schwartz's comment "The Sociopath" very interesting.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jul 2016

I just finished reading The Sociopath Next Door and was constantly reminded of Trump as I read it. If I have more time this afternoon, I'll amplify on that.

nruthie

(466 posts)
21. Great read.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

Unfortunately the very people who need to read it won't; mainly because they can't read. Only sissies read inthe world of Trump.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
22. OH MY GOD!! I knew it was BAD, but I had no idea how BAD he really is!
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jul 2016

This written portrait of Donald Trump is scary beyond words.
Everyone needs to read this. I'm going to read it again! Everyone needs to read it, the entire WORLD needs to read this. Holy fuck.
This is going out on my social media, my e-mail, everywhere I can share it.
fuck fuck fuck...


mopinko

(70,205 posts)
25. i have a friend who worked in a law office in new york years ago.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jul 2016

they did a couple deals for the yam. she tells an identical story. so, yeah, he must be stopped.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
29. Donald Trump Plugs Art of the Deal and The Bible During Alabama Speech
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jul 2016


Dude is still plugging his book 30 years later in his campaign rallies
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
35. For the sake of humanity, the following NEEDS to go viral...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jul 2016

" “I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization,” Schwartz said. “Trump only takes two positions. Either you’re a scummy loser, liar, whatever, or you’re the greatest.” Schwartz noted that Trump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.” "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512260714

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
39. Unfortunately
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jul 2016

most Trump supporters wouldn't be caught dead reading "inta-lexshul" stuff like The New Yorker.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
36. His followers see his sociopathic tendencies as a virtue
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jul 2016

Hopefully this will push a few fence sitters off the rail.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
40. Yeah, at this point it's all about getting independent
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

voters to support HRC. Especially independents in swing states.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
44. he's coming up next on msnbc
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jul 2016

chris hayes just let a guy who claimed to have been a dem til this year spew the most obvious right wing garbage about deporting 12, yes 12 million Mexicans, who drain the education and health systems.

he didn't bother to ask him where he got those bogus statistics, or challenge him with the FACT that they pay in more than they get back

very sad performance, chris....afraid he was going to beat you up?

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
45. Yup, illegal immigrants won't collect social security or medicare
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

but many of them are paying in to it

3catwoman3

(24,037 posts)
46. I saw that bit, and thought...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

...that this guy can't have been much of a true Democrat if he is able to vote for Trump.

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