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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:50 AM Jul 2016

Do you believe America is the dystopian shit hole the GOP portrays it to be ? *












As Bill Clinton said "There is nothing wrong with America that can't be fixed by what is right with America."











* I apologize for the graphic language but that shit pisses me off. It is interesting the GOP is suggestng everything went down hill after America put a black guy in charge. I bet they think we won't notice.
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Do you believe America is the dystopian shit hole the GOP portrays it to be ? * (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 OP
Absolutely not Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #1
i am watching the dorks on CBS this morning speaking straight faced with mdbl Jul 2016 #6
No Sherman A1 Jul 2016 #2
the people thy are attempting to appeal to treestar Jul 2016 #3
I do believe that, of the Republican Party. Doodley Jul 2016 #4
if somehow a republican were in the white house and done exactly what obama did unblock Jul 2016 #5
If a person is truly down and out America must look like a dystopian shit hole. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #7
yes, the problems we have they have no intention to fix. unblock Jul 2016 #19
What esle do you expect from hypocrites mdbl Jul 2016 #8
No. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #9
and the classiest! mdbl Jul 2016 #10
Seriously. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #12
That's what I was thinking...he's hilarious! AllyCat Jul 2016 #18
Everything is relative. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #11
Yes, dont get me wrong, im not pollyanna. There are real problems. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #13
We forgot glowing and glaring inequality which no member of the GOP ever deigns to mention. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #16
No (nt) bigwillq Jul 2016 #14
America is nowhere near the wretched hive the GOP makes it out to be meow2u3 Jul 2016 #15
Deranged fucking assholes Cosmocat Jul 2016 #17
Hell no ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #20
I voted no PJMcK Jul 2016 #21
FOX "News" claims America has been destroyed under Obama.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #22

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
1. Absolutely not
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:53 AM
Jul 2016

We have problems and we're far from perfect but I have no clue what reality Republicans and the NRA are living in.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
6. i am watching the dorks on CBS this morning speaking straight faced with
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jul 2016

a lying campaign chairman full of crap and no info, and there's Charlie Rose with his hard-hitting questions that Manafort can't even answer because he's so clueless. The whole thing is sickening.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. the people thy are attempting to appeal to
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jul 2016

find it a disaster to have a black President. To them it's their worst nightmare.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
5. if somehow a republican were in the white house and done exactly what obama did
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:06 AM
Jul 2016

they would be calling him the second coming of saint reagan.

they would be celebrating obamacare as a conservative, market-based solution to the health crisis.
they would be jumping for joy at the biggest, longest stock market boom ever.
they would be calling him a capitalist savior.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. If a person is truly down and out America must look like a dystopian shit hole.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jul 2016

But that is the last thing the GOP is talking about.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. No.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:15 AM
Jul 2016

But ive noticed that optimism isn't very popular in some corners.

Hell, yesterday i got yelled at here for daring to suggest that the human race just might not be so irredeemably doomed that we should all stop breeding and curl up in a hole and die, preferably while muttering sincere apologies to the universe for having the temerity to exist in the first place.

On topic, though, yes. Obama has done a hell of a job, and i think history will judge him VERY highly. Best president of my lifetime.

AllyCat

(16,186 posts)
18. That's what I was thinking...he's hilarious!
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jul 2016

He makes me laugh in serious press conferences. The WHCD I am usually crying I'm laughing so hard! Wit is a sign of intelligence, and I'm sure he doesn't write all that, but his delivery is perfect, and when he says something on the fly, I believe that is truly jokes and quips of his own making.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. Everything is relative.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jul 2016

America has problems

-Wage growth is stagnant
-GDP growth is steady but sluggish
-Police-community tensions
-America has an implacable enemy in terrorism that is amorphous and thus not easily contained.


But let's use the proper benchmark: 1/20/09 . We were sinking fast and in the midst of the greatest economic downturn in over eighty years and in the middle of two unwinnable wars the GOP started. Even if you conceded the Afghanistan War was one of necessity we could have prosecuted it much better and with more international support if we didn't invade Iraq.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Yes, dont get me wrong, im not pollyanna. There are real problems.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jul 2016

But things are clearly better than they were when delbert w. dipstick had just got done with the country.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. We forgot glowing and glaring inequality which no member of the GOP ever deigns to mention.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jul 2016

Because that would involved redistributionist policies which are anathema to them.

Back to my OP I don't see it an America where everybody is broke but and out to pillage.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
15. America is nowhere near the wretched hive the GOP makes it out to be
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

but listening to them, it sounds as if they want to MAKE America into their neo-Confederate image--a dystopian hellhole for everybody but themselves.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
17. Deranged fucking assholes
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jul 2016

The 90s were the best time this country has seen in half a century, and they turned it into shit with their never ending histrionics over Clinton.

Bush/the GOP lied the country into Iraq and ran the country into the ground while they held the country hostage to fear over 9-11 in 00s.

BHO has steadily led us to recovery and by most measurable indications we are in a much better place today than when he took over, but once again, their 8 year temper tantrum over not having the white house is what they point to for "the country is divided."

Just assholes, flat unhinged assholes.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
20. Hell no
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jul 2016

Every time I hear "make America Great again--I use the substitute "Make America White again"--I do it automatically, because that's what they really mean.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
21. I voted no
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jul 2016

But I'd like to clarify. If one is a Republican and they watch Fox News, then their world-view is polluted by lies and misinformation. Throw in any other typical GOP attitudes, (racism, misogyny, xenophobia, etc.), and I can see how they think the world is in the crapper.

Sadly, too many of these fellow citizens are ignorant pawns who have been manipulated. I have no sorrow for them nor do I respect them. But I can understand how they would see the world given their lack of clear understanding.

It made the Republicans insane when Mr. Obama was first elected: a black man was president! When he was reelected, they really couldn't believe it and Karl Rove's election night meltdown was the classic symbol of their lack of ability to see the real world.

Just imagine their reaction on November 9th when they wake up to the realization that we'll have a woman president, one named Hillary Clinton!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. FOX "News" claims America has been destroyed under Obama....
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jul 2016

They only report the Dow when it goes down and they claim the rest of the world is out to kill us and Obama is on THEIR side.

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