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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:59 AM Jul 2016

Did Laura Ingraham Intentionally Give a Nazi Salute Last Night? An Investigation.

Good analysis of this outrage! I think we look silly using a 1/10 of a second video clip to say it was a Nazi salute. Story below is worth a read. If you are 100% sure she is a Nazi then don't waste your time reading it.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/21/laura_ingraham_s_nazi_salute_examined.html


1. Ingraham is a Nazi and wants everyone to know it. Odds: Zero! The Fox News contributor has previously been quite clear that she thinks likening the GOP to the party of Hitler is “a really ridiculous comparison.” She was also quick today to dismiss the focus on her speech-ending hand gesture as the work of “desperate liberals.”

2. Ingraham is a Nazi and, while she doesn’t want people to know it, force of habit got the best of her in all the excitement. Odds: Also zero! Moving on.

3. Ingraham isn’t a Nazi but she wanted to fire up white supremacists in the arena and across the country. Odds: Almost zero. Yes, it’s easy to find racists among Trump’s fans, but its safe to say the vast majority of them don’t actually self-identify as white supremacists, let alone the kind that go around greeting each other with, "Heil Hitler!" Ingraham would be risking way too much for way too little, particularly since the white-supremacist vote appears to be one Trump already has locked up.

4. Ingraham was trolling liberals and the media. Odds: Fair. If you watch the clip again, it certainly looks like she knows what she is doing. She turns to her left and immediately extends her right arm out at a slight upward angle with her elbow locked. She doesn’t pause, exactly, but she does hold the gesture ever so slightly. It looks just ambiguous enough where she would have been able to predict the social media frenzy that followed last night while still giving herself plausible deniability (and a tailor-made media-bashing anecdote) today.

5. It was an accident, a totally random outstretching of her arm without any meaning or motivation. Odds: High. Ingraham follows the act in question by waving and then pointing to the crowd. She may have simply intended to finish her speech with those two actions—a wave, followed by a point—but in her excitement (or, perhaps, as a result of over-rehearsing the movement ahead of time) she combined the two, resulting in the open-handed, palm-down point. Given the general white ethno-nationalism vibe that has been on display at the GOP convention the past few days, and at Trump rallies the past year, many of us watching at home then saw something more scandalous.

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Did Laura Ingraham Intentionally Give a Nazi Salute Last Night? An Investigation. (Original Post) Logical Jul 2016 OP
I vote "4" Orangepeel Jul 2016 #1
Good possibility. Nt Logical Jul 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Jul 2016 #2
6. Unconscious Gesture or Freudian Slip bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #4
Next you are going to tell me she was just trying to smash bugs with her gait. Socal31 Jul 2016 #5
I have no issue with you thinking she is a nazi! Nt Logical Jul 2016 #6
your logic heaven05 Jul 2016 #7
To turn from the way she was facing and do that, made it intentional. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #8
I disagree. nt Logical Jul 2016 #9
A Demonstration of how Roger Ailes .... heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #10

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
4. 6. Unconscious Gesture or Freudian Slip
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jul 2016

Ingraham was so filled with joy at the Nuremberg-like atmosphere that she wanted a group of brown-shirted Youth Brigade members to march up the middle of the hall with torches in their hands, that she responded to that inner joy with a gesture that captured her obeisance to the Fuhrer that would lead a fallen world out of its captivity and despair.

No, all kidding aside, I do not believe that Ingraham is a German National Socialist from the 1920s. I think that she is a fool, and I think that she made the Hitler salute out of confusion and, being the consummate bullshit artist she is, she instantly realized that she was doing the Hitler salute and turned it into a pageant wave.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. your logic
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jul 2016

is flawed. The Republican Party is the New Nazi Party of America. Racist, hateful and anti-what america is supposed to stand for, in this world. Very flawed logic and Hitler-Trump would be and is proud of that blond, blue eyed NAZI.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
8. To turn from the way she was facing and do that, made it intentional.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jul 2016

She looked directly at somebody or group, made the gesture, then tried to move from it like nobody would notice. I would like to know just who it was that she turned to. Was there a camera view from behind the podium are that looked out to the crowd? I didn't watch her, but turned back just in time to witness that obvious gesture.

heresAthingdotcom

(160 posts)
10. A Demonstration of how Roger Ailes ....
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jul 2016

Bill Maher explained as a demonstration of how Roger Ailes used to push her head down....

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