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Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:32 PM Jul 2016

The Big Story this week that I will bet anything the media will ignore:

Trump's links to people and money in Putin's orbit.

Banks here won't lend him carfare.

Private financiers won't go near his financially toxic ass.

Russian Mafia and various Russian (actual) billionaires have been funding his projects. Many of these people have direct ties to the shirtless horseman, Putin.

This is a really big deal. Coupled with his asking NATO, like amy street bully might, to pay protection money to him, it doesn't sound to me as if he would be a president who is in it for the US.

How much does he owe them? How much would they forgive if he gave them . . . . . I don't know . . . . . Poland?

And don't forget the oily central casting gangster Paul Manafort's direct - DIRECT - ties to the Russian backed Ukraine guy.

No, there is a real story here.

The Big Story.

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The Big Story this week that I will bet anything the media will ignore: (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 OP
The Democratic Convention is the story this week. CentralMass Jul 2016 #1
Two questions Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #4
Congress? dumbcat Jul 2016 #5
The post appears to have been edited Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #6
I see that now dumbcat Jul 2016 #9
I sure hope so... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #39
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #2
I've been pointing out the Manafort angle for quite a while now, I'd love to see MSM have a proper OnDoutside Jul 2016 #3
I read today that he used to lobby money for some foreign thugs Ilsa Jul 2016 #12
Yep, dirty as hell. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #15
that's been out there, and ignored, by the MSM, since the early 90s Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #28
jeez I miss SPY Skittles Jul 2016 #30
I still have about 30 copies, though none from the early, fabbest years Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #31
that SPY gold Sharpie thing really defines Trump Skittles Jul 2016 #32
once again, on friday morning, he demonstrated exactly that flaw, which might Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #34
Hillary should be trained by the psyche people how to provoke him Skittles Jul 2016 #35
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #42
Could you imagine if Hillary--or any Dem nominee--had baggage like this? First Speaker Jul 2016 #7
SSDW Rex Jul 2016 #8
this is HUGE!! BREMPRO Jul 2016 #10
It's been done for years ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #11
Nah, even worse, they will try to bury it along with a whole lot of other real news nolabels Jul 2016 #13
I'd love to see this story grow fishwax Jul 2016 #14
Totally agree. Thanks. spooky3 Jul 2016 #16
K&R - I totally agree, this SHOULD be the Big Story. scarletwoman Jul 2016 #17
What about mrsv Jul 2016 #21
his being a BIRTHER should always be a BIG STORY. spanone Jul 2016 #18
For real -they act like he has no disgusting past ..he does!!! You would think that would make news Person 2713 Jul 2016 #27
who's he gonna start ww3 with then? stupidicus Jul 2016 #19
It's Called a Horse Race Ccarmona Jul 2016 #22
" Poland?" - You can buy politicians of that caliber much, much cheaper. That's on record. jtuck004 Jul 2016 #23
MSM, do you job! napkinz Jul 2016 #24
Corporate media sold out to the ReThugs a long time ago. No cred. RapSoDee Jul 2016 #25
This story may have only conjecture that the Kremlin is influencing Trump Doodley Jul 2016 #26
that is the PERfect opening for the myriad times the obnoxious wingnut TV surrogs Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #29
Agreed. Big K&R nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #33
This is Watergate 2.0 but the media is so lazy they won't report it. luckylefty77 Jul 2016 #36
And watch the American Left jump up & down at the shiny new thing "proving" the DNC is evil.... Hekate Jul 2016 #37
Should be a Time cover story. sarcasmo Jul 2016 #38
Move along. Nothing to see here. RapSoDee Jul 2016 #40
Exactly. THIS is the story! nt lady lib Jul 2016 #41
I don't know if it currently has legs to make it past the DNC this week toddwv Jul 2016 #43

Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
4. Two questions
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jul 2016

What Democratic Congress? Last I looked, the Congress was Republican

What was the point your post was attempting to make? I seriously missed it.

 

StraightRazor

(260 posts)
20. I sure hope so...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jul 2016

I would much rather have the media give wall to wall coverage this week to our ideas and allowing us (our speakers) to make the case to America why Hillary should be President rather than just rehashing why Trump shouldn't be.

There is plenty of time for HRC to expose Trump further (including the Russian ties info) after the convention, and I'm sure she will.

Response to CentralMass (Reply #1)

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
3. I've been pointing out the Manafort angle for quite a while now, I'd love to see MSM have a proper
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jul 2016

go at him.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
12. I read today that he used to lobby money for some foreign thugs
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jul 2016

that were known for human rights abuses. Manafort is soulless. I suspect that's another reason DT picked him, along with the ties to the former Putin puppet in Ukraine.

From his Wiki page:
Association with Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence Agency Edit
Manafort received $700,000 from the Kashmiri American Council between 1990 and 1994, supposedly to promote the plight of the Kashmiri people. However, an FBI investigation revealed the money was actually from Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence agency as part of a "false flag" operation to divert attention from terrorism. A former Pakistani ISI official claimed Manafort was aware of the nature of the operation.[18] While producing a documentary as part of the deal, Manafort interviewed several Indian officials while pretending to be a CNN reporter.[19]


 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
28. that's been out there, and ignored, by the MSM, since the early 90s
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jul 2016

SPY magazine mentioned Manafort, Black, and Stone.....yes, Roger Stone, in an article highlighting exactly what you mention

you can read the whole article, but it's part of a google books thing, where you can read every single SPY magazine ever issued, from about 85 to 98.

trump was one of their favorite targets, those being, giant, hypocritical aholes. the Clintons were high on their list, as well, Hillary being the subject of some very scabrous covers, which I still have.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
31. I still have about 30 copies, though none from the early, fabbest years
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jul 2016

that's where I got my first taste of trump, along with doonesbury

they really got to trump, didn't they?

that's where the short fingered vulgarian thing started.

graydon carter, who began it all:

Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer. He thinks nothing of saying the most hurtful thing about someone else, but when he hears a whisper that runs counter to his own vainglorious self-image, he coils like a caged ferret.

Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago.

To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination.

Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.


http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/10/graydon-carter-donald-trump
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
34. once again, on friday morning, he demonstrated exactly that flaw, which might
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jul 2016

help in his undoing:

never able to let a slight go unanswered, even after it becomes irrelevant, he went off on a fevered tangent against Cruz, threatening to start a PAC against him, and bringing up his dad's being a JFK assassin.

it was marvelous to behold, because these ravings are a bright spotlight onto his mental health, and the dems better damned well start using clips from rants like these to show just how INSANE he is

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. +1000
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

I've met 8 year olds that conduct themselves with more maturity and grace. He is a very twisted man.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
7. Could you imagine if Hillary--or any Dem nominee--had baggage like this?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jul 2016

...the seismographs would have Hiroshima-like reactions to the GOP's heads exploding...

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
11. It's been done for years ...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jul 2016
Hong Kong Man's Aid to G.O.P. Is Detailed
By LESLIE WAYNE
Published: June 9, 1997

"A trail of dollars from a Hong Kong businessman to the Republican National Committee is emerging from new documents turned over to campaign finance investigators in the Senate. The documents also indicate how the former Republican Party chairman, Haley Barbour, might have offered to help the businessman with deals in China in return for financial help to the Republicans."

"The documents, given to Senate investigators late Friday, shows the role played by the businessman, Ambrose Tung Young, in providing the financial backing that allowed the Republican Party to free up some much-needed money for the 1996 election. Mr. Young, under pressure from Mr. Barbour, absorbed a $700,0000 loss in 1996 on a $2.1 million bank loan that had been taken out by a nonprofit group headed by Mr. Barbour and that was used, in large part, to provide money to the Republican Party. "
[link:http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/09/us/hong-kong-man-s-aid-to-gop-is-detailed.html|

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
13. Nah, even worse, they will try to bury it along with a whole lot of other real news
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

So they can make the buying public happy and copacetic for advertisements

This kind crap goes on and on because they know they can get away with it. It's really just that simple

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
17. K&R - I totally agree, this SHOULD be the Big Story.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

I just have no idea what it will take to get people's attention.

mrsv

(209 posts)
21. What about
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

Twitter...that's how the plagiarizing story broke...post the link to the banking story...demands to see his taxes...to prove it's not true...if he doesnt show his taxes...it is true and he's a commie sympathesizer..he has Putin's endorsement....he wants to get rid of NATO and WHO all to benefit Putin....force him to show us his taxes to prove us wrong...that would be my plan

spanone

(135,831 posts)
18. his being a BIRTHER should always be a BIG STORY.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

our media has chosen to give him a pass on that little matter.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
27. For real -they act like he has no disgusting past ..he does!!! You would think that would make news
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jul 2016

stories uninformed people would want to hear and get viewers even
but nope MSM ALL of it seem to give a total pass /cover for Trump

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
22. It's Called a Horse Race
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

And the MSM will do all it can to perpetuate it until Election Day. They only care about the $$millions generated in ad spend.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. " Poland?" - You can buy politicians of that caliber much, much cheaper. That's on record.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jul 2016

And since he wrote the book, they can probably get the real estate swindler for 10 cents on the dollar.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
25. Corporate media sold out to the ReThugs a long time ago. No cred.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jul 2016

I have no expectation any more that the corporate media will show a shred of integrity.

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
26. This story may have only conjecture that the Kremlin is influencing Trump
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

However, if, as according to Trump, Hillary Clinton's speeches to Wall Street compromise her position, then that is an allegation that MUST be made forcefully about Trump and his Putin connections. I agree with the OP that this SHOULD BE the biggest story of the week. If all things were equal (by the so-called liberal media) and as much attention was paid to this as to Hillary Clinton's speeches and emails, Trump would be dead meat.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
29. that is the PERfect opening for the myriad times the obnoxious wingnut TV surrogs
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:07 PM - Edit history (1)

bring up those speeches

when are the dems going to wise up? don't they have easily discoverable details like these at their fingertips?

does anybody here have any ins with the campaign?

I might....the guy gore ignored about florida, the ignoring of whose advice cost him the election...and his brother, who was just on Beyond the Beltway, a wingnut hosted radio show on WLS (and TV broadcast in syndication). I should give the latter brother a call and see who they're in touch with.....I know the other one has a picture of himself and WJC together. so I got that much going for me.

gunga galunga

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
37. And watch the American Left jump up & down at the shiny new thing "proving" the DNC is evil....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jul 2016

...and of course, they can shitcan Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and tar HRC while they're at it.

Fuck

Fuck

Fuck

FUCK

This. Is. Sabotage.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
43. I don't know if it currently has legs to make it past the DNC this week
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jul 2016

BUT I've heard intimations from various media sources.

I honestly don't think that any of the 24/7 media craving meat for its viewers is going to drop such a juicy story.

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