Who are these People?

[busterbrown]

Do they not realize that they are giving the hard right racist/homophobic/nationalist party a lift just when it looked like Trump was hitting bottom.

Just saw a live event on T.V consisting of anti-Hillary Dems and Green Peace Supporters..and it had substantial numbers.

Jesus Christ...Stein supporters, ....a vote for Jill Stein is simply a vote for Trump.. Yea I know you remember Bush vs Gore.. How did you feel the day we invaded a country which was not an imminent threat to us, killing or injuring millions of innocent people also including thousands of our own military troops.

Anti-Hillary Sander’s supporters?..You are helping Donald Trump’s Campaign in its effort to put him in the White House.. a concept which is almost impossible to imagine.. He’s fucking crazy and will have the ability to cause such havoc and destruction upon mankind that ...oh fuck it,.. someone else complete this ..

To my fellow Duer’s 2 questions.. Are these Hillary Haters all registered Dems, are they plants or are they just plain bat-shit crazy?

[Jack Bone]

1. taxpayers...just like you nt

[busterbrown]

4. Great... So let them enjoy

their tax increases and the attacks on unions when Trump is President..

Bernie sure dislikes this behavior and has done a a wonderful job of trying to undo the damage already created..Thanks Bernie.

[Jack Bone]

16. I can't stand that sometimes protesters burn the American flag..

BUT, I'll defend.... up to my death...their right to do so.

everyone has a right to vote, campaign, donate money to...whoever they want to...period. it's neither yours, or my job to tell them otherwise.


that's one of the many things that makes America, as FLOTUS reminded us last night, "The greatest country on Earth"




*edited to clear up a grammatical error

[busterbrown]

17. They are just a huge distraction...They are truly assholes.

Thats what elections are all about.. To influence and guide people in a civil manner..”Telling someone something they must do does not work.

[frankieallen]

21. Are Bernie supporters burning the American flag?

I never understood why someone would burn their own flag. These people are protesting, are involved with and taking part in the political process, yet in essence spitting on their country, it's history, and it's people by burning our flag.
Ungrateful pukes if you ask me.

[Jack Bone]

36. no they are not nt

[MFM008]

29. Why are they at a democratic

Convention. If they are delegates, vote and get the hell out. Go play in 101 degree Temps and quit showing such disrespect to supporters of HRC by booing and acting like 5 year Olds because they didn't get their way.

[StraightRazor]

41. Yep...

America=Democracy.

[Matt_in_STL]

2. Of course, only two options in the world. You vote Hillary or you are an asshole.

I am amazed at the rhetoric on this site on a daily basis but the last couple of days have been simply hateful and tone deaf as to why people might want options other than Hillary.

[busterbrown]

5. Dangerous Times..

Bernie sure agrees..and has just been fantastic with his unifying messages.

[Matt_in_STL]

8. That's great that Bernie agrees, and it is great that many agree with him

But the beauty of free will is that the people are not sheep or following a Pied Piper of sorts. They get to make the decisions for themselves and those who don't see Hillary as an option have their reasons, whether you agree or not. That doesn't make them assholes, it makes them human.

[busterbrown]

11. I’m worried for mankind..

Will change Title. My fear is all up in me today.. Trump is gaining strength

[rockfordfile]

14. That's not what they are doing

That's not what they are doing. I do think some of these people are trump stooges.

"why people might want options other than Hillary" Then they shouldn't be at the Democratic Convention. Clinton is our nominee.

[rjsquirrel]

26. Exactly

[NightWatcher]

20. The only two options on Election Day are a Trump Presidency or not

Sure, you've got the right to hate Hillary and vote for the Green or Libertarian, but that decision doesn't aid to prevent Trump from winning and would have the same outcome as voting for Trump himself.

Remember the day after the Brexit vote all of the people who voted to exit who then A. Didn't think it would really happen or B. wished they could have a do over so they could vote differently. Consider that your warning.

Vote to defeat Trump, then afterwards raise holy hell to get traction for your other ideals. Look at the Democratic Platform that Bernie was able to affect.

Don't let the Perfect be the enemy of the Good. Hillary will be a good President compared to Trump, even though Bernie would've been great.

[gaspee]

24. The only other option is Trump

Unfortunately, that is the world as we know it. Don't like it? Work to change the two party system.

As it stands right now, if you don't vote for Clinton, you are, in effect, voting for Trump.

If you live in the real world, you will see this.

Trump is a clear and present danger.

Selfish people who care more about their own feelings than they do about the reality we find ourselves in will elect Trump. We didn't believe it could happen in Bush Gore and look where that got us.

[MFM008]

31. Then get out

Quit showing disrespect to our speakers who have spent their lives fighting for and supporting Democrats who have a lifetime of accomplishments like John Lewis and Elijah Cummings. Quit boooooing and jumping up and down on your chairs and hooting like apes and get the hell out and go play in the Sun go have your own damn convention.

[awoke_in_2003]

37. Telling a fellow DUer

to "Go Fuck Themselves"? Very classy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. They're citizens exercising their rights.

[busterbrown]

6. Their rights are in danger...Trump is a dangerous man.

Bernie Seems to get this..

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. So, they should stop exerfcising their rights?

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche

[SunSeeker]

18. Helping Trump get elected is not "enforcing their rights."

They are working against their rights.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. We have a difference of opinion.

Speaking out on candidates is exercising a right. The right of freedom of speech. Are you exercising your rights when you speak out against Trump? I think that Trump is unfit to be president. Am I exercising my rights or helping someone else get elected?

Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only, no matter how big its membership may be is, no freedom at all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently. Rosa Luxemburg

[SunSeeker]

33. Obstructing a speaker from giving a speech is not "exercising a right."

It is denying a right.

They were not "speaking out" against trump. They were booing, trying to shut down Dem speakers.

[jtunes]

7. 'How did you feel the day we invaded a country which was not an imminent threat to us'

well, I didn't feel like a senator who voted for it....

[busterbrown]

9. Look.. I have my question’s concerning Hillary’s previous actions.

But Donald Trump is dangerous man who is gaining steam.. Dangerous to the planet.

[jtunes]

12. my point is, the Iraq war is probably not the best issue to raise

given that the *Senate* & Congress is what declared the war

[busterbrown]

15. And the Bush Administration was not the

White Night leading the charge of the ignorant?..
This was the Bush Administration’s war they sold it hook line and sinker!

[lapucelle]

19. I blame those who sold the talking point in 2000 that there was no difference between

Bush and Gore for the Iraq war.

Bush's election is the root cause of the Iraq war.

I don't think that Gore would have ignored the intelligence reports that Bush ignored in the summer of 2001. I wonder if the 9/11 attack would ever actually have happened if we had had President Gore.

And I know that Al Gore wouldn't have lied to Congress concerning post-attack intelligence in order to start a war.

[world wide wally]

23. I could have sworn we just went through a primary and we agreed to play by the

rules of democracy.
Now, when things didn't work out the way some had hoped, they want to sabotage the winner regardless of the consequences? It seems that defenders of democracy have a right to be pissed off right back at them.

[gaspee]

25. Exactly how I feel

There is a winner and a loser - you lost, don't be a sore loser.

(general you, not specific you)

[Android3.14]

27. They are the goad

pushing us towards our progressive humane and ethical values. They are the changing face of the empowered Democratic Party.

They are the people that are so tired of a few wealthy elites shafting the rest of us, that they see no other alternative.

These folks didn't wake up one day and decide they would yell and scream and protest for no good reason. They know, deeper than you can reach, that being nice only encouraged the powers that be to screw them over even more.

This race is a populist race, and if Hillary cannot harness that power, then she (and America) will fall to Trump.

[ymetca]

28. At least they bothered to air their grievances

That says something for Democrats. They hardly bother anymore on the Republican side, the party of bigots and big oil. These panicky poll numbers will look quite different after the debates I think.

[Mike Nelson]

30. Everyone gets to vote...

...even they. I noticed one young woman was upset because headliner Bernie was made to "go last" in the speaker line-up last night.

[LWolf]

35. How much attention are you really paying?

Beyond your own offended sensibilities?

First of all, I'm sorry if you didn't notice the broad, deep, anger expressed by the American public this last year, Republican, Democrat and all sorts of others.

Did you think it was going to go away by nominating an establishment candidate?

Secondly, Jill Stein has a pretty interesting response to your opinion, and she's got a point. DISCLAIMER: I am not supporting Jill Stein's campaign in any way. I'm just pointing out that a solution to your accusation has been available for quite some time. I won't post what she has to say about it, but if you cared, you could find it. It's about voting reform. And I've heard plenty of Democrats talk about the same reform.

Finally...Democrats angry at Clinton and the Democratic Party establishment aren't "helping Trump." They don't support Trump. If you really cared what they thought, you might have paid attention LAST summer. It's democracy. People are allowed to express dissent in a democracy. If establishment Democrats don't like it, they ought to rename the party.

Or, perhaps, in that spirit of "unity" we keep hearing about, they might try paying attention, listening, and extending some of the respect and compromise they themselves expect.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. +1000000!

[busterbrown]

40. how the hell can you compare republicans and democrats

and “all sorts of others”

The fact that you can conflate Republicans, democrats and all sorts of others speaks volumes about what you believe in. Then you state that " Democrats angry at Clinton and the Dem party aren’t helping Trump”? Then go on to state “Its Democracy”?

Sounds as though you have very little concern with Donald Trump.. You didn’t mention him once during your whole post.. This is is punk who could devastate mankind id elected and your talking about extending some respect to others who disagree with you? I have absolutely no respect for any Dem who
feels “respect and compromise" is the way to deal with this current situation, meaning Donald Trumps’s candidacy .

By the way this is not the time to discuss “voting reform”..The only thing we should be discussing is the horror of a Donald Trump's presidential aspirations .

[Act_of_Reparation]

43. Stop blustering and read what was actually written.

LWolf didn't say that Republicans and Democrats were the same. They said a significant portion of the American people were pissed at the party apparatus. How you could conflate that with "Democrats and Republicans are the same" is completely beyond me.

[busterbrown]

45. Very Simple

You seem to be stuck on a fair process conversation. I say to hell with that..
We are in a diff world now with a possibility of having a Lunatic controlling the White House, a stacked right wing Supreme Court, The Senate and the House controlled by White Nationalists who are Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists.

Thats what the hell were looking at!

I’m not against your conversation concerning fairness.. But the DNC and its fucked up archaic procedures are a conversation for after the election..

Right now you are accomplishing nothing but giving the GOP targets to shoot at.
.

[Act_of_Reparation]

48. I'm not interested in deflection.

I'm not talking about priorities. I'm talking about you putting words in peoples' mouths. If you take issue with the timing of these topics, then it is well within the realm of reason to say so. But you accused the poster of conflating Democrats with Republicans, and that is something They. Did. Not. Do.

[LWolf]

44. And that question speaks volumes about you.

They are ALL Americans. They vote. They will be voting in November.

Trump? You are unhappy that I'm not joining the fear fest? You want to make sure that the entire campaign is about Trump?

Sorry. I'm not going to honor him with that kind of power. Why would I mention him? He's not worth, to me, the oxygen to do so. I'm not going to spend the next months gasping and agonizing about him. I will vote to defeat him, which is what counts.

You didn't ask a question about Trump. You asked a question about Democrats at the Democratic Convention. I answered it. And I pointed out that the anger that offends you is not restricted to Democrats.

That's reality. Please don't tell me that you can't handle reality, or democracy with a small "d" in relation to the Democratic Party convention.

[busterbrown]

46. Same stuff.

Check my response# 45

Then 42.......Obviously I’m not alone in my thoughts

We live in a dangerous world..Wake The H up!

[LWolf]

47. I am awake, I've been awake,

I've been paying attention for decades. I don't really need your help with that.

Just because someone sees and acknowledges what you won't, doesn't mean that she is not awake. Just because someone doesn't join you in your fearfest doesn't mean that she doesn't see the danger. It just means that she chooses to address it differently.

[Skittles]

39. sore fucking LOSERS

[Odin2005]

42. How many of them are college kids who DON'T remeber the 2000 Election?

I supported Bernie in the primary, but I am voting for Hillary because I am old enough to remember Nader spoiling Florida.

Not to mention that the Greens have become increasingly a bunch of economically privileged dogmatic technophobes.