Donald Trump doesn't want to be President.

[Archae]

There's a lot of work involved, and a helluvva lot of responsibility.

Trump doesn't want that, so he's deliberately trying to lose.

He won't quit, that would bruise that colossal ego of his.

[madaboutharry]

1. Especially if he saw that video

and heard Michelle say how often President Obama worked until 2:00 am. Trump is lazy and has 5 minute attention span.

[karadax]

13. Trump has admitted that he sleeps about 3-4 hours a night.

Make no mistake. The guy wants the job.

[still_one]

26. darn right he does, and should not be underestimated

[metalbot]

47. I'd phrase that differently

He wants the title, but I don't think he wants the job.

[Skittles]

2. please, please stop this shyte

the man is an EXTREME NARCISSIST - being the most powerful man in the world is his WET DREAM

[Archae]

5. No way.

He doesn't really want to be the President over an absolute disaster like it was for Dubya.

Economy tanks, Iraq war fiasco, torture, etc.

Trump doesn't want to be held responsible for that.

[Skittles]

9. in his mind, he is never responsible for ANYTHING

* E V E R *

[pinboy3niner]

14. I'm with you, kid

He wants it and he wants it BAD. He can't tolerate the idea of his not getting it. He's supposed to be the best at everything, including succeeding in his campaign.

[Skittles]

17. he's got to be quaking

because I wonder if he entertained the idea of being beaten by a WOMAN

[pinboy3niner]

18. That reality will entertain him no end in November

[redstatebluegirl]

51. It will be a PLEASURE watching this guy lose to a woman of substance!

[cwydro]

41. Thank you.

My thoughts exactly.

[Ryano42]

3. Honestly it doesn't matter...

WE must make sure TOGETHER that Cheetoman doesn't

[Wounded Bear]

4. I don't care what Trump wants...

I want him to disappear.

[emulatorloo]

6. Tiring of this fantasy meme. If he didn't want to be President he would have dropped out long ago.

He wants it.

[MellowDem]

7. He wants the title and pomp...

He'll let someone else handle the difficult day to day shit, no doubt some extreme conservative, who will be happy to oblige.

[Archae]

11. Like Dubya did with Cheney?

Possible...

[HughBeaumont]

46. Pence is just that guy.

It doesn't get any worse than that fuck. Even Cheney didn't outright hate the LGBTQI community.

[melman]

8. He is not trying to lose

It does nobody any good to believe that.

[Skittles]

10. I get tired of seeing it

they don't understand what is driving that insecure maniac

[pinboy3niner]

21. Me, too Skittles

It is no way even nearly credible that Trump wants to be a loser. What the hell are people smoking???

[Demonaut]

12. that should the the meme going forward

[Elwood P Dowd]

15. He wants the title, not the job.

Like others have said, he won't do shit but parade around the country running his mouth while others do the actual work.

[42bambi]

52. That's all he knows, to run his mouth. All talk while

spewing out those disgusting orange fur balls he gets from constantly petting himself!

[pinboy3niner]

16. What work?

It's easy for him. He gets a little information and makes decisions on his gut reaction. It's easy as pie for him.

This constant crap about him not wanting the work is a load of horseshit.

[Binkie The Clown]

19. Trump would NEVER be a loser on purpose!

He wants it. He thinks he can win it. When he loses it he will have an epic meltdown.

[RichGirl]

20. Bill Maher says....

Trump doesn't want to BE president....he just wants to be CALLED President.

[lpbk2713]

22. Running for him is self indulgent.

Some people have hobbies.

He wants to run for president.

[Grammy23]

23. Like most of his decisions...

He didn't really think it through. And that was because as someone (Kaine?) said tonight, he doesn't have a clue. Now that he is in it chin deep, some of the reality seems to be sinking in that it is a difficult, stressful job. But in true narcissistic logic, he thinks he can go with his gut and he can do fine. And god help us all if he wins.

[pinboy3niner]

24. His defeat will be DELICIOUS

[Skittles]

28. I am not sure which would be more popcorn-worthy

Hillary winning (repukes explode) or Donald losing (Donald explodes)

[pinboy3niner]

31. We will be drinking CHAMPAGNE in November

[Skittles]

33. OMG

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. That's why he wants his kids and the Russians to run everything for him.

[pinboy3niner]

27. You should delete the thread or edit the false title

The title is fallacious on its face.

[gort]

29. He has wanted to be POTUS from the time Obama humiliated him

The White House correspondent dinner when Obama mocked him about being a reality tv star it was clear to me he was seething with anger.

It is true that he doesn't want to be a leader, he just wants to rule.

[merrily]

30. Dunno. Losing is a bigger hit to the ego than walking away.

If you walk away, you had the power to make that decision. When you lose, you had no say or choice in the matter.

I know you're saying it's his choice to lose, but 350 million Americans will see him as a "loosah." I don't think that is a choice he would make voluntarily.

If he wanted to walk, he could have used an excuse about the RNC being bad to him, walked before the convention and let Jeb! (Bush the Least) be nominated.*

If he wins, he'll shove stuff off onto Pence, his cabinet, the Pentagon, etc., maybe even hire a CEO type.

Never give up. Never be complacent.


*The one very teensy tiny bright spot of Trump's being the nominee? Just think how humiliating it is for a Bush, with all that name recognition, power, and money behind him, to have lost that badly.....to Trump.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Every one of his bankruptcies made him a loo-sah

But he learned how to parlay those losses into the next big con job. So "losing" this is nothing more than a stepping stone to something else. That is a well-known, well-honed business model. In this case maybe a new book? A new reality TV show (several of his surrogates are former reality show contestants so he would employ them)? A new, wholly-owned cable network to keep his "brand" out there by hawking his named products and services 24/7? Heck... Sun Myung Moon operated the Washington Times for years at a loss in order to keep the RW messaging out there.

It is never-ending. That is how he operates. He moves on to the next gig.

[merrily]

42. Yes. He spins the bankruptcies into just another way he wins--and

that may actually be true.

Did you happen to see this post? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2311402

[BumRushDaShow]

44. No- missed that post

and thread (was watching CSPAN while doing some stuff around the house at the time and threads here roll so fast that it's difficult to keep up).

But I believe it is true - being just 60 miles away from Atlantic City, I have seen the end result of what he had done there - including the domination over the iconic Steel Pier when he built the Taj Mahal, linking it (by skywalk) to the Pier... essentially obliterating it from view. Right now, the workers there are on strike but it is barely mentioned in the media. Of course the hotel is "his" in name-only now (he licenses the name but Icahn owns it), but the damage is done

[merrily]

45. Perfect example of ubiquitous corporate welfare: allowing Trump to link his hotel to the

iconic Steel Pier. What a benefit to the hotel!

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Sigh

Before -



After -

[merrily]

50. He probably paid some pittance for the privilege, which returns

the money to him many, many times over every year.

But don't even think about asking most cities to house the homeless, even though that's been proven cheaper than not housing them. It took Salt Lake City to finally bite the bullet and decide they would rather provide housing and save money than punish chronic homelessness.

(Don't be put off by the headline. The author proposes solutions, something I so wish more authors would do.)

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/problem-not-solved/Content?oid=2966986

[BumRushDaShow]

54. Right here in Philly

during this convention, you actually have similar going on - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/phillys-not-interested-in-banishing-homeless-people-during-the-dnc_us_579785b1e4b02d5d5ed2e983

Now that we have DLC Nutter out, who was known to try to "hide" the homeless and who went after the successful feeding programs that we have on the Ben Franklin Parkway, our new mayor is doing something completely different. It'll take some time to upend much of Nutter's crap but Kenney is systematically doing it.

Regarding the casinos - I think this excerpt from a 1984 article pretty much sums it up as to what happened there (now with the city on the verge of bankruptcy) -

<...>

The casino industry, which financed the pro-gambling campaign during the 1976 referendum, "sold New Jersey a bill of goods that the streets would be paved with gold and everyone would have a warm house and two cars in the garage," said attorney G. Michael Brown, a former director of the state's Division of Gaming Enforcement.

<...>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1984/01/15/atlantic-city-disillusioned-about-gamblings-promised-jackpot/581e5008-ff51-4a8f-9ca9-7b811f66510e/

Since we are their media market, we heard all the hype before gambling was legalized, as to how they would spend all this money on the infrastructure and housing in the city. And naturally, none of that happened.

[pansypoo53219]

32. he wants to be king. he will be the figurehead. pence w/ president.

[pinboy3niner]

34. "What checks and balances? I don't need Congress or the Supreme Court!"

They're disgusting. Who needs them?

[merrily]

43. Didn't he think Ginsburg could be fired?

[Act_of_Reparation]

35. I don't know how accurate this is...

...but reports from "insiders" allegedly privy to his VP selection process attest that he plans to act as a figurehead while the veep does all the hard work and the thinking. Much like the last Republican president.

[pinboy3niner]

39. I'd write that off as BS gossip. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

36. I actually agree with this

and have said it before.

He doesn't need to be President to control the media and control the narrative.
He doesn't need to be President to influence the political party he is a part of and its most rabid supporters.
He doesn't need to be President to travel the world and hob nob with the U.S.'s friends or its enemies.
He doesn't need to be President to flout our society's norms and expectations or its laws.

But since he has made it this far, he is "going along for the 'ride'" while doing as much damage as he chooses to do on a whim, because in essence, he has not and will never be held accountable for what he ultimately does in life until he gets to those pearly gates.

THAT is his "power" and it is happening without actual need to be in elective office, including the highest office of the land (where if the elective office victory did happen, it happened, and nothing more).

But we can't let that happen because there are those who would latch onto him and be in positions to take us into a dystopian world.

[avebury]

38. He wants the title, prestige and thinks it will give him respect.

He doesn't get it that respect is earned, not automatically granted.

Trump and Melania in the WH would be like Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. Imagine how tacky the WH would like after they impose their decorating tastes on it.

He thinks that he is teflon and can say whatever he wants with no consequence. He doesn't get it. He is personally responsible for making the case to rational moderate or conservative Republicans to either 1) just plan not vote in November, 2) vote for Johnson or 3) maybe even vote for Hillary.

I imagine that, about now, Pence is thinking - What on earth have I done! Absent of a Trump victory in November, his political career is so over. He will forever have the millstone of Trump around his neck. Even as despicable as he is, he would be better off walking away from Trump as fast as possible after Trump called for Russia to commit cyber espionage.

[cwydro]

40. I've seen numerous threads of this type throughout the primaries.

First, posters would claim he'd drop out early. Or THIS scandal or THAT would SURELY take him down.

Then he'd drop out before the convention.

Then he'd drop out after the convention.

Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

The man is an egomaniac, and he wants to win the Presidency. He'll then impose his special kind of hell on all of us.

[maryellen99]

48. Here's another thing if it's true that he's in debt to unsavory people over in Russia

if he wins he gets lifetime secret service protection and then nothing will happen to him.

[sarcasmo]

53. Kick.