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Movie "The Great Wall" to star Matt Damon (Original Post) whistler162 Jul 2016 OP
OFFS MohRokTah Jul 2016 #1
I would love to be an ear on the wall Jnclr89 Jul 2016 #2
It's a freaking monster movie with an international cast edhopper Jul 2016 #3
Yes, exactly like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" nt csziggy Jul 2016 #4
CTHD is a full on masterpiece of cinema The Second Stone Jul 2016 #8
True - and I would love to see more films made from a Chinese perspective csziggy Jul 2016 #9
What is the premise of the film? oberliner Jul 2016 #5
a white guy who saves the world Jnclr89 Jul 2016 #6
That's a nice departure from the usual formula Orrex Aug 2016 #18
The only time they learn to accept less in life, and still find fulfillment Baitball Blogger Aug 2016 #20
Hollywood Whitewashing: How is this still a thing? Initech Jul 2016 #7
I'm not seeing the problem here cagefreesoylentgreen Jul 2016 #10
Thanks for this. white_wolf Jul 2016 #11
then watch "the geisha boy".....not Chinese, but>>>> Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #16
Unfortunately, though, Asia and China in particular has a whitewashing problem MrScorpio Aug 2016 #17
I don't see him as Trump lame54 Jul 2016 #12
Do you mean the same MD who rails on about gun control.... clarice Jul 2016 #13
He also destroyed NASA property in The Martian Orrex Aug 2016 #19
Fucking space pirate! Iggo Aug 2016 #21
Chinese director and Chinese studio Kurska Jul 2016 #14
What's the problem here? romanic Jul 2016 #15
I don't get it. Is he playing a Chinese guy? Iggo Aug 2016 #22
I understand the criticism, but if Yimou Zhang is cool with it -- then so am I. aikoaiko Aug 2016 #23
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. OFFS
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jul 2016

If the idea of casting Damon in the role is so fucking bad, it will bomb at the box office as badly as Wayne's picture did, and I suspect it will.

edhopper

(33,641 posts)
3. It's a freaking monster movie with an international cast
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jul 2016

they want box office in Europe and America.
an all Chinese cast would get it two theaters in NY and LA.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
8. CTHD is a full on masterpiece of cinema
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jul 2016

with wide popular appeal. A wonderful story, well acted and beautifully photographed. It told its tale of Asian tragic fairy tales in a traditional Asian style. An amazing piece of storytelling.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
9. True - and I would love to see more films made from a Chinese perspective
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

About their history, rather than interpreted from a Western point of view with non-Chinese actors directed by non-Chinese people.

Same for other countries - I would very much like to see more movies made by their own people. Few movies made in other than European countries make it to American theaters - except for those in large cities with art cinemas. Even with Indian movies, few of the Bollywood films are subtitled for people who don't speak the languages so they are pretty much inaccessible to people like me who are not fluent in any language other than English.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
20. The only time they learn to accept less in life, and still find fulfillment
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:57 AM
Aug 2016

is when they get into an accident or get an illness that gives them brain damage.

Well, not exactly box office hits, but I guess, from their perspective, they do it to show they can be successful living like everybody else.

10. I'm not seeing the problem here
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jul 2016

And I'm Chinese American. The Chinese studio and director approved of this as did the Chinese government.

The only racism I see in this issue is from people who think all Chinese people look the same. Ever heard of Uighurs? They're Caucasians from China's Xinjiang province and they are considered Chinese people too.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
11. Thanks for this.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jul 2016

I actually hadn't heard of Uighurs until you mentioned them. I think it's easy for people, me included, to assume everyone from a particular country or group looks exactly like the popular image of that group.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
17. Unfortunately, though, Asia and China in particular has a whitewashing problem
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:44 AM
Aug 2016

For example, in China there exists an entire industry that hires white people to impersonate "experts" like doctors and entrepreneurs in order put white faces on Chinese products.

In much of Asia, white Americans celebs are hired for huge sums of money to be cast in all kinds of advertising. That was the entire premise behind the movie, Lost In Translation.

Also, colorism is huge issue in Asia, as dangerous skin lightening products are hawked to darker skinned people, many of which are manufactured by major industrials.

In Asia, whitewashing is a huge deal and is the cultural extension of Western white supremacy in the non-white parts of the world.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
13. Do you mean the same MD who rails on about gun control....
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jul 2016

and then gets a gabillion dollars for killing 20 people in his movies? No thanks

Orrex

(63,236 posts)
19. He also destroyed NASA property in The Martian
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:50 AM
Aug 2016

And he shot an innocent horse in True Grit.

What an asshole.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
14. Chinese director and Chinese studio
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jul 2016

And a movie that focuses primarily on the chinese market in the end.

Matt Damon is huge over in China, that explains the casting. Lots of knee jerks in this thread without understanding the context.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
15. What's the problem here?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jul 2016

If the Chinese wanted Damon, then that's what they'll get. They don't need Americans expressing their "concern".

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
23. I understand the criticism, but if Yimou Zhang is cool with it -- then so am I.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

He has had my respect since Ju Dou and Raise the Red Lantern.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0955443/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
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