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Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:07 PM

 

George Zimmerman got punched in the face. Dylann Roof Got his ass kicked in lockup. So what?!?

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Why people run around crying bitter tears for these violent maniacs and expect folks to feel bad for them is amazing. Hey, guess what? Prison is violent. Murderers get their asses kicked in prison. Rapists also get their asses kicked. So, maybe I don't feel one damn bit sorry for the kid who went into a black church to pray with parishoners and murdered them, getting a bit of a beatdown. Not my problem. And maybe I don't gaf if George Zimmerman gets punched in the mouth for brgging about Murdering Trayvon.

Maybe, just maybe, George should stfu and hide his dumb face away from people when he feels a brag coming on. And perhaps, Dylann Roof shoulda stayed his punk ass home that day and not killed my people like that up in that church. Maybe folks should feel sorrier for the millions of non violent black men who are locked up and getting worse beatdowns than these racist fucking KILLERS. Our prisons are not safe because the system knows that the prisons are mostly for blacks. They don't want to rehabilitate. Not our blacks asses. Now when white murderers start suffering the same fate as black drug dealers, here we see folks are all sad sad sad super sad at how violent our prisons are. Umm hmmm. I see through it. Poor poor little white racist killer. Poor. So sad. Umm hmm. Yeah right.

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Reply George Zimmerman got punched in the face. Dylann Roof Got his ass kicked in lockup. So what?!? (Original post)
bravenak Aug 2016 OP
gollygee Aug 2016 #1
bravenak Aug 2016 #4
sheshe2 Aug 2016 #18
IronLionZion Aug 2016 #34
dubyadiprecession Aug 2016 #2
bravenak Aug 2016 #6
hack89 Aug 2016 #40
Chakab Aug 2016 #47
anoNY42 Aug 2016 #51
Chakab Aug 2016 #66
anoNY42 Aug 2016 #67
Vattel Aug 2016 #79
guillaumeb Aug 2016 #3
bravenak Aug 2016 #8
guillaumeb Aug 2016 #9
bravenak Aug 2016 #10
rusty quoin Aug 2016 #42
bravenak Aug 2016 #46
kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #5
bravenak Aug 2016 #7
tenderfoot Aug 2016 #11
bravenak Aug 2016 #12
Initech Aug 2016 #15
Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #13
bravenak Aug 2016 #14
brer cat Aug 2016 #72
sheshe2 Aug 2016 #16
bravenak Aug 2016 #17
grubbs Aug 2016 #19
bravenak Aug 2016 #25
people Aug 2016 #43
cwydro Aug 2016 #20
bravenak Aug 2016 #23
DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #21
bravenak Aug 2016 #22
DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #27
bravenak Aug 2016 #29
niyad Aug 2016 #24
bravenak Aug 2016 #26
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bravenak Aug 2016 #30
retrowire Aug 2016 #31
bravenak Aug 2016 #33
backscatter712 Aug 2016 #37
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backscatter712 Aug 2016 #35
bravenak Aug 2016 #36
Mira Aug 2016 #38
bravenak Aug 2016 #39
JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #53
snooper2 Aug 2016 #58
mythology Aug 2016 #41
DRoseDARs Aug 2016 #44
bravenak Aug 2016 #45
nomorenomore08 Aug 2016 #74
IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #48
FrodosPet Aug 2016 #49
IVoteDFL Aug 2016 #81
MrScorpio Aug 2016 #50
JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #57
MrScorpio Aug 2016 #62
JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #65
anoNY42 Aug 2016 #52
linuxman Aug 2016 #54
smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #60
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Kahina_Loren Aug 2016 #55
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Egnever Aug 2016 #61
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romanic Aug 2016 #68
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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:15 PM

1. I love people saying Dylann Roof doesn't belong in general population

He murdered 9 people. He is by definition dangerous.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:30 PM

4. Yep. Killing nine makes one seem rather brutal

 

Not a delicate flower.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:05 PM

18. Cold blooded murder.

He sat and prayed with them ... then slaughtered 9 people in their church.

Tears.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:20 PM

34. He should get a burger

while other types of people get a clip emptied into them for "looking dangerous"



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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:29 PM

2. That stupid republican legislature creates George Zimmerman's with that G*#Damn idiotic stand your..

ground law in florida. Thanks a bunch fellas, you legalized premeditated murder. Morons!!!

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:32 PM

6. Pretty much. Now the killers walk free and brag and get punched on the face.

 

Nothing much we can do about it besides win back the states.

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:49 PM

40. Zimmerman did not use a stand your ground defense

He specifically refused a stand your ground pre-trial hearing.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #40)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:12 AM

47. The fact that he did not use the defense doesn't mean that he didn't receive any benefit from

 

the law. The "stand your ground" law changed the fundamental nature of homicide-related offenses in Florida by eliminating the duty to retreat from danger. The media did a terrible job by ignoring this fact and leaving people with the impression that "stand your ground" wasn't at play because Zimmerman's lawyer opted not to use the defense to pre-trial.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/15/2301621/why-stand-your-ground-is-central-to-george-zimmermans-case-after-all/

These were the instructions given to the jury by the judge:

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.


The jurors also explicitly stated that their deliberations were conducted through the spectrum of stand your ground.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/15/2306631/zimmerman-juror-says-panel-considered-stand-your-ground-he-had-a-right-to-defend-himself/

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Response to Chakab (Reply #47)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:54 AM

51. This feels like a re-litigation

 

but Zimmerman claimed he was on the ground under Trayvon, and thus no retreat would have been possible.

If the judge gave the wrong instruction, blame the judge and not the law. If the jury decided to talk about SYG, blame the jury not the law.

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Response to anoNY42 (Reply #51)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:21 PM

66. The judge did not give the "wrong instruction." You clearly don't understand the implications of

 

the law. Like I wrote in my previous post, "stand your ground" does more than simply provide a new affirmative defense. It changes the parameters for convictions for homicide-related offenses.

I've provided sources to back up my argument. If you want to ignore them, I'm not going to waste time repeating myself.

And RE Zimmerman being on the ground when the shot was fired, the forensic evidence clearly contradicted that account. The coroner said that the wound was made by a bullet fired at "intermediate range" and there was no blood splatter on Zimmerman consistent with Martin being shot when he was on top of him.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #66)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:42 PM

67. 1.) You source for legal advice is apparently ThinkProgress

 

I like TP, but it's not really to be trusted for legal analysis.

2.) "Intermediate range was .4 inches to 4 feet, as per testimony below.

From Wiki:
"Dr. Shiping Bao, the associate medical examiner who performed the autopsy on Martin testified that he didn't die immediately and that his heart was still beating after being shot. Bao said Martin was shot from intermediate range, which he defined as being between 0.4 inches to 4 feet and said the muzzle had loose contact with Martin's clothing. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_George_Zimmerman#Expert_witness_testimony

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Response to anoNY42 (Reply #67)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:22 AM

79. Thanks for pointing this out.

 

The amount of bad information about this shooting that gets repeated over and over again is staggering.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:30 PM

3. What do you REALLY feel?

A song for George and Dylan:


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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:33 PM

8. Seriously

 

I shed not a tear. No 'poor Dylann', 'poor georgie' coming out of my mouth.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:35 PM

9. Agreed. To brag about murdering an unarmed teenager is.........

These people are true sociopaths.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:37 PM

10. We need that prison from Aliens 3 to put them in.

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:02 AM

42. Yes.

 

I don't hope that bad things happen to bad people, but if they do, I don't care.

I worry about good people, and it's a long line.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:11 AM

46. Yep. Plenty of good people to care about. No need to waste time.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:31 PM

5. Righteous rant, friend.

 

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:32 PM

7. Thank you, so irritated today

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:39 PM

11. I just stopped in to read the comments from the pearl clutchers...

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:40 PM

12. I know, right? Me too. Then I was like, really?

 

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:44 PM

15. Anyone need some butter?

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:41 PM

13. I feel bad for people who deserve my pity.

These two don't make the cut.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:42 PM

14. Thank you. Exactly. Not our fucking problem if they get karma.

 

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:22 PM

72. Well said, Starry. nt

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:50 PM

16. Georgie deserved a punch in the mouth.

Sorry, he did. He shot Trayvon unarmed. Brags about it.

Fuck him.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:51 PM

17. Yep, girl. He got what the doctor ordered. Instant Karma.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:07 PM

19. Make the world a better place

Punch a racist in the face.

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Response to grubbs (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

25. Georgie better stfu and move on with his life. Better for him. Safer.

 

Dylann is just getting what many many many other killers get. And non killers too. I feel sorry for the people locked up with his evil ass.

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Response to grubbs (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:07 AM

43. George Zimmerman got punched in the face. Dylann Roof Got his ass kicked in lockup. So what?!?

George Zimmerman is a COMPLETE A_HOLE and I am glad someone punched him in the face. If I owned a restaurant and he came in I would tell him to leave in a second. He is an AWFUL AWFUL RACIST PIG and a HORRIBLE PERSON. Dylan ROOF is a Dumb racist NAZI type who deserves what he gets. Do not want anyone killed or shot with a gun, EVEN THOSE COMPLETE RACIST PIGS. But glad they got punched beat-up etc. Completely DISGUSTING people. SORRY they are who they are. Let's hope their types go back under rocks where they should remain and not crawl out again, EVER.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:09 PM

20. George Zimmerman deserves much more than a punch in the mouth.

So does Dylann Roof, but I don't think prison violence should be applauded. Ever.

There are innocent people in prison. No, not him, but there are innocent people there.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:33 PM

23. Not applauding. Just dont feel one damn shred of sympathy for either of them.

 

I save my sympathy for the deservingc

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:25 PM

21. the only minor detail is this

GZ did NOT go to jail, at all. That in and of itself is an offense, especially since his willingness to use violence has been discussed and documented.

Dylann of course killed more people, but he will be on death row. Even a stupid Governor realizes that if this kid is not in the chair, there will be hell to pay.

And before people clutch their pearls , yes the death penalty is wrong, but there is no reason why Mr. Roof should not get what is doled out to black prisoners whose crimes pale before his.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:32 PM

22. Agreed.

 

George got away with murder and might need to stop bragging befire somebody decideds to try him out for size. Dylann? He aint getting anything worse than a black drug dealer and much easier than a kid who stole some swusher sweets. I just cant feel sorry for them.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

27. if stopping the DP in SC

would spare the lives of some drug dealers, wonderful, but if not, Roof better get what they get. Of course, the sadist in me remembers how the person that pulled the switch on Rapist Ted Bundy was a female prison guard. You can guess who I might like to pull the switch on Roof, and I doubt you will be offended

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:36 PM

29. I'd pull it myself, and no I would never feel bad. My duty if called to action. I'd do my duty.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:34 PM

24. may zimmie and dylan get everything they deserve.

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Response to niyad (Reply #24)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

26. Goddess willing they will

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #28)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

30. Where did you see joy? What you see is me not giving a shit about them KILLERS

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:06 PM

31. Wait.

People are pitying these murderers??

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Response to retrowire (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:07 PM

33. Yes. I know.

 

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Response to retrowire (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:22 PM

37. Let us have a moment of silence for Dylann Roof and George Zimmermann...

...

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:21 PM

35. Couldn't have happened to a nicer pair of psychopathic pieces of shit.

Gosh, I hope their assailants didn't get their knuckles bruised too badly...

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #35)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:22 PM

36. And it happened on Obama's b-day.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:41 PM

38. Before reading other responses

I say that I think violence in our prisons against inmates by other inmates, or by the guards, is so goddamn fucking wrong and sad I can't even respond to this.
All of all of it is wrong. A system that leaves it to the inmates to re-punish offenders makes my skin crawl.

Watch "Where to invade next" Michael Moore shows you alternatives.

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Response to Mira (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:44 PM

39. It is wrong. But some folks only care if it is wrong when dealing with certain inmates.

 

The others they do not care about. Not important. Might be we should focus on rehabilitating our prisoners. But we wont. Ever. So it is what it is. The two are no more important than the rest and far less sympathetic than many.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #39)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:04 AM

53. Kid's a racist - but just the same . . .

We'll never know what happened on this 'tragic day' he got beaten up in prison.

We'll just never know bravenak! .

I certainly hope his alleged assailant gets a fair trial.

He's innocent until proven guilty
an it is the D.A.'s duty to find justice - not a punch of keyboard warriors who might want the ALLEGED Assailant punished without a trial.

I'm sure you have read this before!

Love ya! A most righteous rant!

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Response to Mira (Reply #38)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:20 AM

58. Some people deserve a good ass beating

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:59 PM

41. Because the best way to show somebody violence is wrong, is to commit violence

 

You complain that it's hypocritical that you believe other people don't care about prison violence unless it's happening to a white guy, but you apparently only care if it's happening to a black guy based on how this post reads.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but anytime somebody makes a prison rape joke, they are routinely chastised because prison violence isn't a good thing. Nobody stops to ask, were they joking about a black victim because that would be fine. Insinuating that people here don't care about prison violence if it happens to black people is absurd. The available evidence is that prison violence is looked down on.

Yeah Dylann Roof committed a monstrous act, but inflicting mob violence on him won't bring the people he killed back. It won't make him change his beliefs. You can't beat racism out of somebody any more than you could beat sexism or being homophobic out of somebody. But you can put people in a position to learn a better way. Saying it's okay to beat him because you think it's justified due to his actions, but not in this other instance which arbitrarily doesn't meet your standards is just arguing over where the line is, it still accepts the premise that violence itself is an effective answer. Is the line drawn at if Roof had only killed 5 people? Is the line drawn if Roof had killed a racially diverse set of people?

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Response to mythology (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:10 AM

44. Tribalism and bloodlust are not the sole providence of the right... n/t

 

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Response to mythology (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:10 AM

45. I don't care about showing him he was wrong. He already knew it when he did it. Did it anyway.

 

I care more about helping the persons subjected to living with a disgusting psychopath. They can be saved.

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Response to mythology (Reply #41)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:39 PM

74. When someone does what Zim or Roof did, it's waaay past "showing them where they were wrong."

Vicious, murderous racists don't show their targets any mercy, so why should mercy be shown to *them*?

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 01:22 AM

48. I'm surprised that people apparently feel sympathy for these murderers

I hope it happens again, often.

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Response to IVoteDFL (Reply #48)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:27 AM

49. Violence IS the answer!

The morality of violence comes from who is performing it, who is receiving it, and why they are receiving it.

If racists and Islamophobes received a sound beating every time they open their idiotic mouths, they would either learn to get their mind right, they would shut their trap, or they will eventually be so battered that they expire.

Can I get a cosign?

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Response to FrodosPet (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:55 AM

81. Prison is violent. There is a reason we put violent people in there

Plus you know, two killers getting punched in the face one time is totally the same thing as beating the crap out of a non violent offender because of political views.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:04 AM

50. Their victims are still dead...

There's nothing to celebrate about.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #50)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:51 AM

57. There's this

Well - Roof's victims are dead.

Per a jury of his peers Zimmerman did nothing. Since he did nothing - why is he bragging about something he didn't do?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #57)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:39 PM

62. Something about killing an innocent black child and getting away with it.

Many of his fans also seem to appreciate and defend how he did that.

People who aren't racist psychopaths tend to share a different opinion.

To me, z is a walking, talking litmus test.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #62)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:49 PM

65. That's why when he and his ilk are alleged victims

On a Go Forward Basis -

It's alleged.

Until their so-called attacker(s) are convicted - it didn't happen.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 07:55 AM

52. I don't think we have to feel "bad" for Dylan Roof in order to

 

acknowledge that if an inmate in prison assaults him, then that assault is a crime.

Are people actually "crying bitter tears" for Roof? If so, this is the first I have heard about it.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:30 AM

54. Interesting responses.

 

I wonder how many of you get off on prison rape as well?

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Response to linuxman (Reply #54)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:04 AM

60. You seem to be quite obsessed with prison rape.

This isn't the first time I have seen this response from you.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #60)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 04:19 PM

71. Hardly

 

It just wouldn't surprise me if most of the posters in this thread get off on it. Same mentality.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:35 AM

55. America. Barbarians? This thread is quite depressing to read.

 

This thread is quite depressing to read.

I thought and hoped we as a civilization had progressed past the primitive vengeful concept.

And, even practically. If these people are not put to death (another barbaric American practice.), they might become your neighbour.

Do you really think it is a good idea to abuse a person in prison, then have them move in next to you?

As for Zimmerman. He might be an idiot and a murderer (maybe, as I do not know the details of the case but he was found not guilty), and there is no darned excuse for attacking him.

What do you think that has accomplished?

You Americans are too darned primitive.

Seriously, you would not even qualify for membership in the European Union due to your primitive ways.

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Response to Kahina_Loren (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:49 AM

56. In answer to this

Do you really think it is a good idea to abuse a person in prison, then have them move in next to you?

No one at DU was a participant in the alleged incident against Dylan Roof. It's an ALLEGED incident so none of us know if it even really happened. Let's not put the cart before the horse. The alleged assailant has a right to a fair trial in front of a jury of his peers. Let's not just assume that he's guilty and this happened until we have a conviction.

On that same note - There is an alleged attack against George Zimmerman. Until his alleged assailant is arrested, tried, and convicted of assault it hasn't really happened. No one should be reasonably upset until ALL of the facts of the case are presented. We know nothing at this time - we just have a police report.

I learned this from some noble and wise DU'ers during the Zimmerman trial. They set me "straight" and now they have to live with the consequences.

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Response to Kahina_Loren (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:47 PM

64. Your concern is noted.

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:26 AM

59. Thank YOU!

I got crap for saying "good". That I was glad that little racist punk got beaten up in prison. I still don't give a shit if he is treated fairly. He murdered innocent people and deserves everything he gets.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:17 AM

61. I couldn't agree more with the idea those two needed a beat down

 

That said your bigotry is disturbing. You need to take a hard look at your own hate

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:45 PM

63. Those two are lucky to still be breathing air, Roof won't last in prison.

 

If Zim does not stop bragging about killing a kid, he too probably will meet a similar fate as awaits Roof.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:22 PM

68. Rare but I agree.

I didn't give two fucks about Roof getting his ass whopped in prison, matter of fact I am still in pursuit of finding the world's smallest violin to play to express my lack of care for that asswipe.

Don't give a damn about Zimmermann getting popped either. No empathy from me.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:28 PM

69. Not one shred of sympathy here

I'm with you 100%

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:31 PM

70. I agree with you. I've seen some heartfelt and sincere pleas for us to be "better than that".

And I understand and respect that sentiment.

However, I think I can assert that we are better than they are simply by not murdering people.

If we derive some satisfaction that the lives of these murderers in the wake of their awful crimes is less than peaches and cream, I don't think that's something we should apologize for.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 06:26 PM

73. prisoners need to be protected and not subjected to a show trial on this forum

i thought du was supposed to be above this

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #73)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:42 PM

75. The point is they *aren't* protected, generally speaking.

So why should a mass murderer like Roof be treated any better than the average inmate?

(Disclaimer: I don't endorse prison violence. But as it seems inevitable under the current system, I'm not going to lose any sleep over what happened to Mr. Roof.)

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Response to nomorenomore08 (Reply #75)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:57 AM

77. i find the blood lust sickening

seeing dems cheering this sort of stuff is disgusting



like a gop site

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #77)

Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:28 PM

82. I'm not "cheering" it, just commenting on its predictability.

If other folks are, then maybe it is "blood lust" as you say, or maybe they're simply fed up with killers of African-Americans being given the kid-gloves treatment so often.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 04:09 AM

76. Totally agree! nt

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:00 AM

78. Good for You.

Hate Rules.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:33 AM

80. Bad people have the right to the protection of the law too. That's important.


William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

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Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #80)

Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:37 PM

83. I don't disagree, and I really don't think anyone on this thread does either.

It's just hard to drum up sympathy for a guy who killed 9 innocent people, especially when people who've done far less are the target of endless vitriol (just read the comments on any crime story where the suspect/perp happens to be black).

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