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Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:20 PM

Holy Shite a guest just said that there is speculation that Don the Con

won't release his taxes because of mob links - on GEM$NBComcast

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Reply Holy Shite a guest just said that there is speculation that Don the Con (Original post)
malaise Aug 2016 OP
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #1
malaise Aug 2016 #5
napkinz Aug 2016 #10
kimbutgar Aug 2016 #17
PJMcK Aug 2016 #26
3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #30
MANative Aug 2016 #2
PJMcK Aug 2016 #28
MANative Aug 2016 #34
yellerpup Aug 2016 #3
PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #4
whatthehey Aug 2016 #6
Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #7
Whiskeytide Aug 2016 #8
Renew Deal Aug 2016 #9
trotsky Aug 2016 #11
roamer65 Aug 2016 #12
Lochloosa Aug 2016 #13
trotsky Aug 2016 #15
Capt. Obvious Aug 2016 #27
malaise Aug 2016 #16
TacoD Aug 2016 #20
AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #23
Capt. Obvious Aug 2016 #25
kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #14
Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #18
csziggy Aug 2016 #19
Kathy M Aug 2016 #21
Kathy M Aug 2016 #22
malaise Aug 2016 #24
Kathy M Aug 2016 #35
spanone Aug 2016 #29
KittyWampus Aug 2016 #31
Rex Aug 2016 #32
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #33
Warpy Aug 2016 #36

Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:23 PM

1. No US bank will lend to Trump. Russian oligarchs (with various mob ties) might.

Trump cited Romney's tax returns causing Mitt a little "legal trouble" as one reason, perhaps the reason he would not release his (aside from phony 'auditing' excuse).

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:29 PM

5. I've seen this on MBs but haven't heard anyone on M$Greedia

say it so clearly

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:01 PM

10. ...



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Response to napkinz (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:54 PM

17. That lower picture of him makes him look like a toad

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:34 PM

26. He is (n/t)

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:37 PM

30. Interesting that Trump very specifically says...

...he has no investments in Russia. He does not say Russia has no investments in him.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:23 PM

2. And that is a surprise to exactly zero of us who live or work in NYC!!

It'd be more shocking if there weren't mob links!

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Response to MANative (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:36 PM

28. As a New Yorker, I agree, MANative

It's been obvious to anyone following the news in NYC that Donald Trump has been in league with mobsters for decades. He's even boasted of it.

Why hasn't the media picked up on this, especially since so many of them are in NYC?

Oh, wait...

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:49 PM

34. Ain't that the truth!!

I've worked in Manhattan off and on (currently on) for almost 20 years, and it's been a well-acknowledged fact; you don't even have to follow the news very closely! And you're right about him boasting about it, too.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:23 PM

3. Certainly to American mobs,

but I wonder what crime bosses would show up on the Russian list.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:27 PM

4. I think this sociopath is FILTHY to the core.

He's slowly being exposed for the corrupt CON he is. May it please happen in time!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:31 PM

6. Well the ties are not unlikely

But, while I realize a wealthy multiple businessowner's taxes are different from mine with W2s and a small S corp, no part of a tax return with which I am familiar would identify the source of even legitimate loans. A good audit would find the problems, but we are not going to see a smoking gun on any IRS form I've seen. A lot of ginned up speculation here.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:34 PM

7. Trump has admitted his mob connections in the past.

I'm too lazy at the moment to link them.

Trump actually seemed proud of it!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:37 PM

8. Think that through ...

... Would ANYONE list mob payments on their tax return, or even anything that could be linked to mob money? Come on. He's a psycho, but I seriously doubt he's telling the IRS where he gets his dark money.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 12:51 PM

9. He's handling the defense of NATO allies like a mobster

Pay the protection fee or something might happen

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:10 PM

11. Some people are saying Trump won't releases his taxes because he donates to NAMBLA.

I don't know if this is true or not. But many, many people have expressed concern.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:12 PM

12. That would definitely be the end of the Drumpf campaign if true.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:15 PM

13. I think I saw that on Twitter. I'm not saying it's true, but it sure needs to be looked into.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:22 PM

15. I believe I've been seeing it in many places. Definitely a huuuge cause for concern if it's true.

Some people say it could be the end of his campaign. Why one such person posted right above you!

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:35 PM

27. Why is the based media giving Trump

a free pass on the rumors of his ties to NAMBLA?

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:26 PM

16. Getting up off the floor

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:31 PM

20. There's something going on (nt)

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:24 PM

23. You wouldn't believe what people are finding

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Response to trotsky (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:33 PM

25. People are talking about it

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:15 PM

14. I've been saying it's because of Russian mob links. But American mob links

 

would be icing on the cake.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:04 PM

18. Many people are saying it. nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:10 PM

19. A DU post gave a link to court papers where Trump paid a massive penalty

Last edited Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

For illegal money transfers:
The Orange Sludge: Ripping people off and illegal money laundering

The court papers:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY FINANCIAL CRIMES ENFORCEMENT NETWORK
IN THE MATTER OF: Number 2015-02
Trump Taj Mahal Associates, LLC, d/b/a Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort
Atlantic City, New Jersey
<SNIP>
II. DETERMINATIONS
Trump Taj Mahal willfully violated the BSA’s program, reporting, and recordkeeping requirements from 2010 through 2012. Importantly, many of these violations were previously cited by IRS SB/SE in previous examinations of Trump Taj Mahal since 2003. As described below, Trump Taj Mahal (a) failed to implement and maintain an effective anti-money laundering program; (b) failed to report suspicious activity related to several financial transactions at the casino; (c) failed
to properly file Currency Transaction Reports; and (d) failed to keep appropriate records as required by the BSA and its implementing regulations.

<SNIP>
III.
CIVIL MONEY PENALTY
FinCEN has determined that Trump Taj Mahal willfully violated the program, reporting, and
recordkeeping requirements of the Bank Secrecy Act and its implementing regulations, as described in the CONSENT, and that grounds exist to assess a civil money penalty for these violations. U.S.C. § 5321 and 31 C.F.R. § 1010.820.
FinCEN has determined that the penalty in this matter will be $10,000,000.
https://www.fincen.gov/news_room/ea/files/20150302%20Assessment%20of%20Civil%20Money%20Penalty%20Trump%20Taj%20Mahal%20(post-approval%20by%20bankruptcy%20court).pdf

Emphasis added by me.

The DU post was yesterday - now MSM is finally noticing this court item which was dated over a year ago ( March 6, 2015)? Coincidence?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:22 PM

21. quick google came up with ....

"Trump was first tied to the mafia in the 1980s, when a $7.8 million subcontract for Trump Plaza was awarded to S&A Concrete, according to Fortune. The company, as Cruz correctly says, was partially owned by Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno, the boss of the Genovese crime family."

"Trump’s alleged mob dealings were not confined to New York. According to reports from the Huffington Post and Philadelphia Inquirer, Trump made a deal in Atlantic City with Kenneth Shapiro, an associate of mob boss Nicky Scarfo, and mob-connected labor boss Daniel Sullivan."

"A few years later, Trump’s organized crime connections extended overseas. In 1992, a Senate subcommittee named Danny Leung, who was then the vice president for foreign marketing at Trump Taj Mahal, as an associate of the Hong Kong-based organized crime group 14K Triad."

""Leung has also given complimentary tickets for hotel rooms and Asian shows to numerous members and associates of Asian organized crime," reads the report, which also identified three other triad-connected business associates or former employees of Trump’s gambling empire.

According to gaming regulators, Leung "flew in 16 Italian organized crime figures from Canada who stole more than $1 million from the casino in a credit scam," reported the New York Daily News in 1995. "The incident was never reported because Trump never filed charges."

Whole article .....http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/02/ted-cruz/yes-donald-trump-has-been-linked-mob/

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:28 PM

22. and then ther is



" Mob-linked business adviser

And there’s Felix Sater, "a twice-convicted Russian émigré who served prison time and had documented mafia connections" and the subject of the ABC story Cruz referenced.

Sater pleaded guilty to a charge of money laundering in 1998 and was indicted again in 2000 for taking part in a $40 million stock scheme involving four Mafia families, according to the New York Times report.

From 2003 to 2007, Sater traveled the country promoting projects for Trump, and his company was a partner in the Trump SoHo hotel. Trump told the Times he "never knew that."

Three years later, Sater returned to the Trump Organization and had business cards that described him as Trump’s "senior advisor," the AP reported. Trump told the AP that he’s "not familiar" with Sater."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/02/ted-cruz/yes-donald-trump-has-been-linked-mob/


"Trump has repeatedly said he barely remembers Sater. In sworn testimony in 2013, Trump said he wouldn’t recognize Sater if they were sitting in the same room. In an interview last year with the Associated Press, he said, “Felix Sater, boy, I have to even think about it.”

Sater, in previously unreported sworn testimony reviewed by The Washington Post, described a closer relationship.

Sater said he popped into Trump’s office frequently over a six-year period to talk business. He recalled flying to Colorado with Trump and said that Trump once asked him to escort his children Donald Jr. and Ivanka around Moscow.

whole article at

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-figure-describes-association-with-trump/2016/05/17/cec6c2c6-16d3-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html

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Response to Kathy M (Reply #22)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:25 PM

24. Thanks for your links Kathy M

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Response to malaise (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:04 PM

35. Your welcome

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:37 PM

29. thought that all along. you can't build buildings in new york without dealing with them...

i know, i saw the godfather!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:38 PM

31. That's been my guess but I was too chicken to post it.

 

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:40 PM

32. I bet they also reveal his ties to Russia.

 

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:45 PM

33. Would he actually show payments to the mob on his taxes?

The mind boggles.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:08 PM

36. I don't think you can get anything built in NYC without dealing with the mob

The days of running numbers and brothels and dope are still there on a small scale, but most of their ill gotten money went into legitimate businesses, garbage collection and building two of the earliest ones.

Of course he's got mob ties. Who the hell else is there?

My guess is that he won't release his returns because he's in hock up to the stratosphere with a lot of dodgy people holding the paper. If he doesn't die soon, he's going to die broke.

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