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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSaw A Truck Today Flying A Huge Confederate Flag In Broomfield, Colorado.
While I was in Broomfield, Colorado this afternoon I saw a pick up truck festooned with a huge Confederate flag going down a main highway. There was no American flag with it. Last night I when we went out to a Democratic campaign office for the start of a neighborhood walk there was a parked pick up in the shopping center with two huge American flags flying on the back parked facing a main road. In my afterthoughts I think that truck was there as a protest of the Dems. There is an office where multiple Democratic candidates have an office and there were a large number of volunteers coming in to campaign.
I have seen several pick ups with huge US flags on them recently as well. I am sure these are our local gun nazies running around town so conspicuously.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,858 posts)anyone today would still consider displaying the Confederate flag to be even remotely appropriate.
I rather wish we had a law outlawing it.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Same as applies to the leftists burning the US flag.
Free Speech isn't for popular speech. That kind of speech doesn't need protection.
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,858 posts)the United States Government?
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Since the confederacy has long ago ceased to exist, waving its flag isn't adhering to any real enemy of the United States. And even then, waving a flag isn't "Aid and Comfort" either.
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,858 posts)Have I missed something here?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)"Treason" is the appropriate word, here.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Seriously people, get a grip. All during the 1960s, you'd see communists waving the flag of the Soviet Union, whose stated goal was to conquer the United States. That still doesn't make it treason.
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Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)...would nearly certainly be declared unconstitutional today, after Brandenburg v. Ohio.
This is a good thing. Believe me.
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hardluck
(639 posts)by the popularity of the Sedition Act of 1918 among DU members. Seems so odd given how it was enforced. Not to mention the text of the act itself as it made it a felony during a time of war: (1) to convey false statements interfering with American war efforts; (2) to willfully employ "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the U.S. form of government, the Constitution, the flag, or U.S. military or naval forces; (3) to urge the curtailed production of necessary war materials; or (4) to advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any such acts.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Criminalizing politics is an authoritarian tactic popular among extremists of every flavor. If you can't get your way through the ballot box, turn to some other mechanism.
Don't be surprised that this happens on the DU. Democrats may not be plagued with kooks the way the GOP is, but we absolutely have our fair share. And they tend to congregate on websites to push their hatred, extremism, and conspiracy theorizing.
Since the new DU rules have been put in place, those holding authoritarian-leftist views have largely migrated off the site. JPR seems to be where they congregate now. But during the primaries, it was pretty amazingly bad for quite a while.
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Fla Dem
(23,676 posts)states during the Civil War. I don't see it as a treasonous act, just like if some skin head wraps his stupid self in a nazi flag. But MOST progressives do not think kindly of those who glorify the flag that was the emblem for the South and what the South stood for.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Hang anyone who displays treason!
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Colorado has such a rich civil war history so there's nothing racist about it.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Settin' on the porch of the chalet, sippin' a mint julep and listenin' to the sweet sounds of the darkies singin' spirituals out on the slopes.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)There's events like the Sand Creek Massacre.
Then the state's government was virtually taken over by the Ku Klux Klan back in the 1920's.
Just off the top of my head.
beveeheart
(1,369 posts)I have seen that truck also.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)Thought that it was my imagination getting away with me until I did a double take.
Used to see them all the time when I lived in Texas. First time that I've seen one in Canada though.
a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)Just across from Ottawa, Quebec side. He'd see them all the time there.
brush
(53,782 posts)I just saw a pick-up in Vegas yesterday flying a huge American flag.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Couldn't possibly be a show of support during the Olympic Games. Nope..
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Some people... I swear...
TheDonnasRule
(67 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Big truck. Have had American flag decal in the past but not now. May need a new one.
Proud liberal democrat.
And occasionally there is even a gun in my truck...
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)just thought I'd mention that although I reckon you already know.
I occasionally drive my Grandpa's truck and we are both progressive and liberal in a political sense. The only reason he has it though was to pull his Airstream. He sold that a while back though and at 95 he figures he shouldn't drive as much as he did at 94.
He does fly an American flag on his porch every now and then.
TheDonnasRule
(67 posts)Fla Dem
(23,676 posts)While some may say it represents all that is not good with America. I would say it represents all that IS good with America, of which there is plenty.
Ms. Yertle
(466 posts)you think displaying an American flag is a protest against Democrats, and that they are only displayed by nazis.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)I ran into a guy at the gas station who had the Confederate flag and Texas flag flying on his truck and he watched as I slowly shook my head.
He notices my disapproval and asked if I w as s from here, and I said no, I'm originally from Chicago. He then stated that I wouldn't understand why so many Texans were against the war of northern aggression. I said, "the war of what?"
Him: The war of northern aggression.
Me: What war is that?
Him: You Yanks call it the Civil War.
Me: Oh, we call the war of southern liberation.
He was mad and flusfered. He jumped in his truck and drove off with tire squealing and this huge trail of black smoke that was meant for me, but the wind shifted and blew it towards the cab of the truck to the point that he had to stop and wait for it to dissipate.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)...when the Civil War is called the Slavers' Revolt or the War of Southern Treason.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Mendocino
(7,495 posts)Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.
Seriously though, I was behind a pickup the other day. Diesel dually with coal roller pipes, confederate and Gadsen flag stickers, pro-gun and anti PETA bumper stickers. A jacked up cliche on 6 wheels.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)Truck Nutz
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)there were in the seats.
madamesilverspurs
(15,804 posts)that the KKK has a considerable history in Colorado. The apartment complex where I'd lived for more than a decade was purchased by a family who boasted of Klan membership, and I moved out rather than give them money every month.
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Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)... soon after the moral decision to remove them from government buildings in South Carolina happened.
I felt like yelling, "Hey, dipshits! Ohio was in the Union! We sent General Tecumseh Sherman to fight the rebels!'
Of course, it's really about racism here.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)...it was with a fellow Democrat, who suggested that America needs a new national holiday: to celebrate Sherman's March to the Sea.
BURN, ATLANTA, BURN!
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)... by wearing a Sherman shirt that I saw for sale, but I decided to be nice.
I have to admit that I liked all of them that I met in New Orleans, but they may not have been a good representative sample from Alabama overall. The ones that I met were educated and civil.
Different Drummer
(7,617 posts)life. Never knew one I didn't like.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)... and was pleasantly surprised that none of the Alabama fans that I met were even remotely that way. I liked all of them.
Many of them seated around me acted like their baby died after the game was over, though. They were in a state of quiet shock as the shuffled out. Been there, done that.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Proudly flying their Klan Diapers. Best not to anger them, as they also tend to be heavily armed.