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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:32 AM Aug 2016

Saw A Truck Today Flying A Huge Confederate Flag In Broomfield, Colorado.

While I was in Broomfield, Colorado this afternoon I saw a pick up truck festooned with a huge Confederate flag going down a main highway. There was no American flag with it. Last night I when we went out to a Democratic campaign office for the start of a neighborhood walk there was a parked pick up in the shopping center with two huge American flags flying on the back parked facing a main road. In my afterthoughts I think that truck was there as a protest of the Dems. There is an office where multiple Democratic candidates have an office and there were a large number of volunteers coming in to campaign.

I have seen several pick ups with huge US flags on them recently as well. I am sure these are our local gun nazies running around town so conspicuously.

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Saw A Truck Today Flying A Huge Confederate Flag In Broomfield, Colorado. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2016 OP
It's depressing, isn't it, that PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #1
Unconstitutional: First Amendment protections and all that... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #3
But doesn't the Confederate flag display treason against PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #5
Nope. Treason is defined in the constitution. ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #8
Didn't the Confederacy levy war against the United States? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #11
Yes they did. And the display of the Confederate Flag shows support for that war. baldguy Aug 2016 #17
No, it's not. Waving flags is not treason. ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #22
Maybe. Maybe not. But it borderlines on sedition at the very least... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #34
The sedition act of 1918 was repealed in 1920, and further... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #36
I'm always surprised hardluck Aug 2016 #38
Don't be ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #46
No one said you couldn't wave a Confederate flag, just that it represents the treasonous southern Fla Dem Aug 2016 #45
Display? Treason? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #15
Of course because gwheezie Aug 2016 #2
Granpappy always talked about those antebellum days in Aspen. Frank Cannon Aug 2016 #18
Bwa-HA. The slopes. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #23
In all seriousness, there were some ugly times in Colorado. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #30
I live in Broomfield and beveeheart Aug 2016 #4
I saw one the other day on a truck here in downtown Toronto. Chakab Aug 2016 #6
My best friend lived in Gatineau, a la izquierda Aug 2016 #33
I wonder if this is some kind of winger movement we haven't heard of yet? brush Aug 2016 #7
US flags mean Nazis? TipTok Aug 2016 #9
And gun nuts, apparently. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #16
That or just Americans on a a regular day... TipTok Aug 2016 #21
Don't stereotype us pick-up drivers...I drive a big 'ol truck, progressive thru and thru though TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #10
Same here GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #19
And The Donnas are awesome OriginalGeek Aug 2016 #37
yee haw!! ;) TheDonnasRule Aug 2016 #43
Nothing wrong with flying an American Flag. Fla Dem Aug 2016 #44
It's sad that Ms. Yertle Aug 2016 #12
Didn't I hear "U.S.A! U.S.A." chants during the Democratic Convention? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #25
That's a daily site in Houston. Exilednight Aug 2016 #13
They get especially upset... backscatter712 Aug 2016 #31
The Battle of Broomfield was a turning point in the War of Northern Aggression. Orrex Aug 2016 #14
I LOLed. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #24
I saw a Mendocino Aug 2016 #20
Only 1 thing missing..... MichMan Aug 2016 #26
It did have nuts, Mendocino Aug 2016 #28
It bears noting madamesilverspurs Aug 2016 #27
I started seeing a bunch of Confederate flags in Ohio... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #29
Last time I talked about the Civil War and the Dixie Swastika... backscatter712 Aug 2016 #32
I was tempted to troll Alabama fans at the 2015 Sugar Bowl... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #35
I've known a good many people from Alabama in my Different Drummer Aug 2016 #39
I'd heard callers of "The Paul Finebaum Show" a few times... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #40
If they are racists, then they are NOT good people by definition. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #42
There's Dixie Shitheads everywhere these days SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #41

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
1. It's depressing, isn't it, that
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:36 AM
Aug 2016

anyone today would still consider displaying the Confederate flag to be even remotely appropriate.

I rather wish we had a law outlawing it.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
3. Unconstitutional: First Amendment protections and all that...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:44 AM
Aug 2016

Same as applies to the leftists burning the US flag.

Free Speech isn't for popular speech. That kind of speech doesn't need protection.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
8. Nope. Treason is defined in the constitution.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 02:49 AM
Aug 2016
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Since the confederacy has long ago ceased to exist, waving its flag isn't adhering to any real enemy of the United States. And even then, waving a flag isn't "Aid and Comfort" either.

- C.D Proud Member of the Reality Based Community


 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
17. Yes they did. And the display of the Confederate Flag shows support for that war.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:09 AM
Aug 2016

"Treason" is the appropriate word, here.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
22. No, it's not. Waving flags is not treason.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:11 PM
Aug 2016

Seriously people, get a grip. All during the 1960s, you'd see communists waving the flag of the Soviet Union, whose stated goal was to conquer the United States. That still doesn't make it treason.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
36. The sedition act of 1918 was repealed in 1920, and further...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 03:43 PM
Aug 2016

...would nearly certainly be declared unconstitutional today, after Brandenburg v. Ohio.

This is a good thing. Believe me.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

hardluck

(639 posts)
38. I'm always surprised
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

by the popularity of the Sedition Act of 1918 among DU members. Seems so odd given how it was enforced. Not to mention the text of the act itself as it made it a felony during a time of war: (1) to convey false statements interfering with American war efforts; (2) to willfully employ "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the U.S. form of government, the Constitution, the flag, or U.S. military or naval forces; (3) to urge the curtailed production of necessary war materials; or (4) to advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any such acts.



ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
46. Don't be
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:36 PM
Aug 2016

Criminalizing politics is an authoritarian tactic popular among extremists of every flavor. If you can't get your way through the ballot box, turn to some other mechanism.

Don't be surprised that this happens on the DU. Democrats may not be plagued with kooks the way the GOP is, but we absolutely have our fair share. And they tend to congregate on websites to push their hatred, extremism, and conspiracy theorizing.

Since the new DU rules have been put in place, those holding authoritarian-leftist views have largely migrated off the site. JPR seems to be where they congregate now. But during the primaries, it was pretty amazingly bad for quite a while.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Fla Dem

(23,676 posts)
45. No one said you couldn't wave a Confederate flag, just that it represents the treasonous southern
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:08 PM
Aug 2016

states during the Civil War. I don't see it as a treasonous act, just like if some skin head wraps his stupid self in a nazi flag. But MOST progressives do not think kindly of those who glorify the flag that was the emblem for the South and what the South stood for.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
18. Granpappy always talked about those antebellum days in Aspen.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:35 AM
Aug 2016

Settin' on the porch of the chalet, sippin' a mint julep and listenin' to the sweet sounds of the darkies singin' spirituals out on the slopes.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
30. In all seriousness, there were some ugly times in Colorado.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

There's events like the Sand Creek Massacre.

Then the state's government was virtually taken over by the Ku Klux Klan back in the 1920's.

Just off the top of my head.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
6. I saw one the other day on a truck here in downtown Toronto.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 02:40 AM
Aug 2016

Thought that it was my imagination getting away with me until I did a double take.

Used to see them all the time when I lived in Texas. First time that I've seen one in Canada though.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
33. My best friend lived in Gatineau,
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 02:08 PM
Aug 2016

Just across from Ottawa, Quebec side. He'd see them all the time there.

brush

(53,782 posts)
7. I wonder if this is some kind of winger movement we haven't heard of yet?
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 02:47 AM
Aug 2016

I just saw a pick-up in Vegas yesterday flying a huge American flag.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Same here
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:40 AM
Aug 2016

Big truck. Have had American flag decal in the past but not now. May need a new one.

Proud liberal democrat.

And occasionally there is even a gun in my truck...

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
37. And The Donnas are awesome
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 03:56 PM
Aug 2016

just thought I'd mention that although I reckon you already know.


I occasionally drive my Grandpa's truck and we are both progressive and liberal in a political sense. The only reason he has it though was to pull his Airstream. He sold that a while back though and at 95 he figures he shouldn't drive as much as he did at 94.


He does fly an American flag on his porch every now and then.

Fla Dem

(23,676 posts)
44. Nothing wrong with flying an American Flag.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:00 PM
Aug 2016

While some may say it represents all that is not good with America. I would say it represents all that IS good with America, of which there is plenty.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
12. It's sad that
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:17 AM
Aug 2016

you think displaying an American flag is a protest against Democrats, and that they are only displayed by nazis.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
13. That's a daily site in Houston.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:47 AM
Aug 2016

I ran into a guy at the gas station who had the Confederate flag and Texas flag flying on his truck and he watched as I slowly shook my head.

He notices my disapproval and asked if I w as s from here, and I said no, I'm originally from Chicago. He then stated that I wouldn't understand why so many Texans were against the war of northern aggression. I said, "the war of what?"

Him: The war of northern aggression.

Me: What war is that?

Him: You Yanks call it the Civil War.

Me: Oh, we call the war of southern liberation.

He was mad and flusfered. He jumped in his truck and drove off with tire squealing and this huge trail of black smoke that was meant for me, but the wind shifted and blew it towards the cab of the truck to the point that he had to stop and wait for it to dissipate.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
31. They get especially upset...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
Aug 2016

...when the Civil War is called the Slavers' Revolt or the War of Southern Treason.

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
20. I saw a
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Aug 2016

Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.

Seriously though, I was behind a pickup the other day. Diesel dually with coal roller pipes, confederate and Gadsen flag stickers, pro-gun and anti PETA bumper stickers. A jacked up cliche on 6 wheels.

madamesilverspurs

(15,804 posts)
27. It bears noting
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:37 PM
Aug 2016

that the KKK has a considerable history in Colorado. The apartment complex where I'd lived for more than a decade was purchased by a family who boasted of Klan membership, and I moved out rather than give them money every month.


.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
29. I started seeing a bunch of Confederate flags in Ohio...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:48 PM
Aug 2016

... soon after the moral decision to remove them from government buildings in South Carolina happened.

I felt like yelling, "Hey, dipshits! Ohio was in the Union! We sent General Tecumseh Sherman to fight the rebels!'

Of course, it's really about racism here.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
32. Last time I talked about the Civil War and the Dixie Swastika...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:55 PM
Aug 2016

...it was with a fellow Democrat, who suggested that America needs a new national holiday: to celebrate Sherman's March to the Sea.

BURN, ATLANTA, BURN!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
35. I was tempted to troll Alabama fans at the 2015 Sugar Bowl...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 03:03 PM
Aug 2016

... by wearing a Sherman shirt that I saw for sale, but I decided to be nice.

I have to admit that I liked all of them that I met in New Orleans, but they may not have been a good representative sample from Alabama overall. The ones that I met were educated and civil.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
40. I'd heard callers of "The Paul Finebaum Show" a few times...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 04:52 PM
Aug 2016

... and was pleasantly surprised that none of the Alabama fans that I met were even remotely that way. I liked all of them.

Many of them seated around me acted like their baby died after the game was over, though. They were in a state of quiet shock as the shuffled out. Been there, done that.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
41. There's Dixie Shitheads everywhere these days
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

Proudly flying their Klan Diapers. Best not to anger them, as they also tend to be heavily armed.

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