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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat should we do about ISIS?
I guess I don't see a better approach than Obama's, but I am open to being enlightened. Granted, ISIS cannot be destroyed given that approach alone. But we and our allies have hurt them pretty bad in Iraq and Syria, and we have done so without killing huge numbers of innocent bystanders.
Frankly, I just don't see any reasonable path to destroying ISIS in the short term. In Syria and Iraq, like in Afghanistan, Obama's choices have rightly taken into account noncombatant casualties, the tendency of the use of American force in the region to feed terrorism, and the plain fact that we can't completely control the political outcomes of anything we do to alter the political status quo in the area. Perhaps containment and modest rollback is the best we can do, at least for now.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,116 posts)ISIS/ISIL cannot be allowed to expand into new territories especially in new countries.
This should be a world effort.
Then multinational military should be enlisted to weaken the organization as well as trying to cut off their funding.
It won't happen in a year.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Sunni and Shiite would band together for the sake of their region - especially Aleppo - a strong coalition to fight off ISIL/ISIS - but as we all know - their conflict has been going on for centuries....
Maybe the Sunni and Shiite Imams could sway them - from 2014..who knows....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/12/imams-denounce-isis_n_5579370.html
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)They haven't been able to launch an offensive of significance in that area in some time. Many of their top leaders have been killed in combat or by airstrikes. Desertion and poor morale has become a problem for ISIS.The Kurds are reporting that the ISIS soldiers they are fighting are getting younger and younger.
ISIS, as ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah, will be defeated in time and remnants will survive by going underground but the problems in the region that give rise to groups like ISIS will remain.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)makes me less than sanguine about the prospects of defeat in the near future.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)How do you stop the weapons flow?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And as always when one rationalization for war is removed, another will take its place and work just as effectively in allowing humanity to better justify its greed and desire to move imaginary red and blue lines on a map just a little bit further out...
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, irrational thinking....
Many of society's problems are directly linked to religion and the privilege it enjoys.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Wait-
let them assemble-
Bomb
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)They are asking their cells to stay put because the first rush of people to join has slowed considerably. It seems not giving people a reason to get more radicalized and less willing to blow themselves up has been working.
Here's a gripping interview by an ex-ISIS: http://www.thedailybeast.com/longforms/2015/isis-weiss/confessions-of-an-isis-spy.html