Wait wait wait - Don the Con's doctor died in 2010??

[malaise]

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?n=jacob-bornstein&pid=139843879

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-gunter/im-a-doctor-heres-concerning-trumps-medical-letter_b_11565838.html

[CTyankee]

1. All right then...

OMG...

[malaise]

2. Everything about Don the Con is fake starting with the weave on his head

I mean seriously - this is madness

[milestogo]

34. Actually that is his real hair - its the only thing that isn't fake.

[librechik]

53. trouble is it's only one hair

takes hours to pile it up like that.

[milestogo]

55. He's the American equivalent of the fingernail guy:

[Siwsan]

3. Supposedly his son, Howard, took over the car for DonCon

I don't know what the dad's specialty was, but the son is a Gastroenterologist, which makes zero sense for a supposedly AMAZINGLY healthy guy to see a gastro guy since they are not primary care docs, like an Internal Medicine or Gerontologist and he SUPPOSEDLY doesn't have any digestive issues.

[malaise]

16. The letter makes no sense

More made up shit!

[Siwsan]

17. It does sound pretty 'Trumpian"

[SwankyXomb]

42. Dad Jacob was also an internist

Based on some of his papers it looks like he specialized in gynecological oncology.

[Siwsan]

47. That is a weird specialty for an internist

There is no Internal Medicine sub board in gynecological anything. Gyn/onc is a sub board of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

That being said, I once dealt with two pathologists who applied to be contracted as family practice physicians. Yea, that didn't happen.

[womanofthehills]

50. Docs web page before it went down - looks pretty specific to me

https://web.archive.org/web/20160115072533/http://haroldbornsteinmd.com/procedures.html

[Siwsan]

51. Yea - Howard, the son, is a gastroenterologist, so those procedures fit the specialty

But if his father was an internist, and if he specialized in gynecological oncology - that makes no sense. Medical oncology is a sub board of internal medicine. Gynecological oncology is a sub board of obstetrics/gynecology.

(In my previous life, I was a physician credentialing coordinator, and I dealt with clearing physicians to be contracted for specific procedures.)

[JenniferJuniper]

4. Supposedly, it's his son now but

the letter is unquestionably a forgery.

I don't know why the mainstream media hasn't picked this up...

[malaise]

18. And then some

[Brother Buzz]

5. Jacob died but his son Harold is now Trumps' doctor

[malaise]

20. Makes no sense

whatsoever - that letter is fake

[Cracklin Charlie]

26. To Whom My Concern?

Is that a proper greeting?

This document reeks.

[malaise]

27. It's all Don the Con

Oh My!!

[womanofthehills]

21. Yea - you always put your dead dads name on your letterhead - esp. if he only died 6 yrs ago

[malaise]

22. That's pretty shocking

but it is their area of specialty that should have raised questions in the media

[csziggy]

33. Depends on how many sheets were left over

Printing is different now but it used to be to get a good quality stationary printed you had to buy at least 1000 pages.

We still have letterheads left over from two of my father's businesses - both of which were effectively shut down around 1980; both of the businesses my husband and I had - one of which officially went out of business in 1982; and best of all some of the blank invoices from my great grandfather's cedar lumber company which was closed before he died in 1941. There are some invoices left over from my grandfather's hardware store, too but they were used to pack some glassware so they are not in great shape. We even have notes written on the railroad company paper where my great great grandfather worked between 1870 and 1904.

Until I got a computer and printer that could do a nice letterhead I would set up letters to use my printed letterheads even though I had to cross out the zip code and write in the new one, which has changed twice since that stationary was printed in 1979.

The stationary is the least of the problems with the Trump doctor letter.

[kestrel91316]

37. I am a veterinarian, but we doctors all tend to speak the same sort of

doctor-ese. Among ourselves, it's one dialect. nd for non-doctors, it's another dialect.

This letter does NOT sound like it was written by a physician. Some of the word choices are just wrong. And it sounds way too much like what Trump would write if trying to sound like a doctor.

[uppityperson]

6. Harold signed the letter, Jabob is the dad who died.

[chillfactor]

7. Hilarious!

I cannot imagine what possessed anyone to post such a medically-inaccurate "letter." Would be fun to find out who leaked it.

[csziggy]

36. Oh, it wasn't leaked - Trump officially released it

Donald Trump Releases Medical Report Calling His Health ‘Extraordinary’
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/14/donald-trump-releases-medical-report-calling-his-health-extraordinary/

[KMOD]

8. Please oh please let the media

finally address the obvious forgery of that doctor note. Or at least call Dr. Jacob Bornstein.

[JenniferJuniper]

9. HIIPA - and Dr. Jake

has probably signed an agreement not to ever discuss the "letter" he didn't write...

[KMOD]

14. Does HIIPA apply to all the folks who are attempting to

diagnose Hillary Clinton as well? Or is that different?

[dixiegrrrrl]

38. HIPA applies only to people and medical services which provide teatment to a patient.

BY "medical services" I mean the entire hospital or clinic, etc. that a person has been a patient in.
So receptionists, or medical records staff, or labratory staff cannot discuss or even admit knowing a patient without permission from the patient.

Media people can and do say all sorts of shit, and are mostly ignored, as they should be.

[KMOD]

40. thank you.

[SwankyXomb]

41. HIPAA

[Moonwalk]

11. I'm sure Dr. Jacob will answer. And strangely, he'll sound just like John Miller....

[KMOD]

15. lol

That John Miller stuff still makes me laugh. We all know John Miller wrote that doctor note

[Moonwalk]

48. Indeed. And that's DOCTOR John Miller. He just got his degree from Trump U.

[womanofthehills]

10. You know Trump must have dictated the last line

[malaise]

12. To Whom My Concern

That's Don the Con

[JenniferJuniper]

13. And "astonishingly excellent"? n/t

[kestrel91316]

39. No doctor wrote that. Period. It's pure Trump.

[Stonepounder]

46. Really? And here I thought that daddy had personally examined all Presidential

candidates, from George Washington on and passed the info down to his son. Seemes to me that's the only way they could have made that last statement. (Or maybe grandpa and great-grandpa, and great-great-grandpa were doctors who got into the act. Doctors to the Presidents.)

[Jarqui]

19. Too much

There's no end to the absurdity of this campaign. .. on top of the two new revelations about Manafort and the Russians today
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512370988

And Trump also said today that he's not going to use some US intelligence any more ... I can just imagine the Late Night jokes that is going to spawn. America will not elect a joke.


How can a person who shoots themselves in the foot 28 days in a row claim that they can manage the country?

It's proof positive that they can't.

[malaise]

23. Isn't that the truth

Don the Con will soon implode or explode

[Marthe48]

43. America has allowed a joke in the White House

Bush

[Jarqui]

45. I didn't support him but I didn't expect him to be

nearly as bad as he turned out. Obviously, much of the nation felt the same way.

Trump literally is frightening to contemplate in the White House. He can do so much damage in so many ways. I think a lot of people have caught on to that.

He's been floundering for nearly a month. Peoples perceptions are getting locked in.

So it's a much different case.

That's the one thing we can be grateful for: unlike Bush, for being such an asshole up front that he saved the nation from himself. What an epitaph.

[Marthe48]

49. Never been a Trump fan

None of the hype ever impressed me, he didn't strike me as responsible or trustworthy, and I can't believe there are so many gullible people, who think Trump has any substance. I felt the same way about Bush.

[MANative]

24. With two doctors and three nurses in my immediate family, I have NO doubt...

that this collection of words was not written by a medical professional. It does, however, match tRump's verbal style, and my guess is that he wrote it and asked (or, more likely, paid) Harold to sign it.

[malaise]

30. But why would a professional sign that crap??? n/t

[MANative]

35. I'd imagine that for a certain amount of money, and notoriety, there are any number...

of "professionals" who could be persuaded to sign away their integrity. (And this is yet another connection to Eastern Europe - read the obit and Jacob was born there. Interesting coincidence.

[Iggo]

25. I forged better notes than that in high school. (n/t)

[liberal N proud]

28. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the dog ate my tax returns

The childish candidate.

[malaise]

31. LOL

[Gothmog]

29. That note is as real as a degree from Trump university

[malaise]

32. You win the thread

[womanofthehills]

44. Dr. Harold - happy and sad - just like Donald - AND HIS WEB PAGE someone pulled before it was down

https://web.archive.org/web/20160115072533/http://haroldbornsteinmd.com/procedures.html

[Warpy]

52. I've known a few dumb doctors

and none of them would have written a letter like that. That was written by Dumb Don or one of his Dumb Male Offspring but most likely Dumb Don. That's his style when he's trying to sound halfway educated.

Best guess says it was a letter from the good doctor firing him as a patient for noncompliance, scanned, erased on Paint Shop except for the letterhead and signature, then dictated by Don the Con to fill the space.

It's easy to fake a letter. It's much harder to make that letter believable as having come from a specialized professional. This one is just not believable.

[yardwork]

54. The letterhead is fake, too.

It's in the same font as the body of the letter and contains a website address that goes to an empty domain that is for sale.

[Warpy]

58. Not necessarily

but one has to ask why they'd still be using a letterhead featuring a doctor who'd been dead for five years. That's why I think it was likely altered between the letterhead and signature. It's not difficult to do.

[awake]

56. Rachel Maddow showed the letter on her show tonight and talked about how weird it was

but she stopped short of pointing out that it must be fake, I keep waiting to hear her say it but she did not go there.

[Wednesdays]

57. Meredith McIver worked in a doctor's office?

Who knew?

[malaise]

59. Maybe they're all the same person