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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat's it. Fuck you Julian Assange.
I can't post the link because it's from a wingnut site, but evidently over the past weekend, WikiLeaks sent out a tweet- and at this point WikiLeaks IS Assange, to its millions of followers with a link to the YouTube "documentary" of 'Clinton Cash'.
Despicable. He's openly trying to interfere with the Presidential elections using scurrilous right wing shit.
Once upon a time ago, WikiLeaks had the potential to be a valuable tool against government malfeasance. Now it is what it purports to fight- corrupt.
So fuck you very much, Mr. Assange.
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KewlKat
(5,630 posts)some as far back as May. Maybe those interested in watching that trash have gotten it out of their system.
Agree that Ass-ange is doing what he can to make drumpf our fuhrer.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)All the people attaching themselves to Trump and parroting his every utterance. Are they so blind or so desperate they don't see what's happening?
In Assange's case, I guess 'desperation' counts. But all these others? I don't get it.
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underpants
(184,882 posts)or at least have Putin arrange for asylum somewhere. Assange is probably desperate ate this point, he should know better than getting mixed up with Putin.
brush
(56,066 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He isn't interested in you, or "freedom" or "transparency." He never has been. This is, and always has been about him, his ego, and his personal vandettas.
Hopefully, most of the American left is finally over this fraud.
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm sure you remember the big fallouts most of his one time collaborators had with him.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)At this point anything that smears Hillary is credible with him.
I'm sure that there are more like him.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Now I can see he's a piece of shit.
I just hope Democracy Now! stops giving him airtime like he's god. I can't watch that crap.
joshcryer
(62,314 posts)Of course, the clue was when LulzSec got raided and the entire group of Anonymous hackers (hactivists) was arrested, and Wikileaks promised support but then quietly forget about them. Those guys were going after everyone, and if you were Wikileaks and supported them, that means that your master state could be threatened, can't have that.
Mind you, what LulzSec did was extremely bad, they were responsible for many really terrible leaks and they were relentless with their targets (at the time it was almost mythical how they hacked). But LulzSec comprised the "ethos" of Wikileaks. Full transparency, everything gets leaked, leak it all.
And to allow that to continue to happen with their master state potentially at risk was too much.
Mind you I don't suspect collusion, it's more ideological in my observation than it is infiltration, but it would not surprise me if Wikileak's inner circle has Russian (and even US) moles.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Public would have never known if not for that.
Makes me wonder why Russian Government holds on to any republican files/emails they may have hacked over the years. Blackmail is a very powerful tool.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)the person leaking is exposing the hackers. This is bigger than Watergate, which started with two phone taps.
Festivito
(13,514 posts)https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/updates/2015/05/04/10-things/
Or, go to:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/
and search for Clinton cash. There are videos and articles. I posted article links.
As far as Assange goes. I support him.
cali
(114,904 posts)own little fiefdom. It's about as "wiki" as a hole in the head at this point.
Festivito
(13,514 posts)Assange supports freedom and transparency through his wikileaks. Those ideas combined with the randomness of how he receives information can lead to wikileaks seemingly to hurt one side of a fight more than another.
We know how Clarence Thomas through his wife's job can receive dirty money. We just don't know when and how much. We should. We should also know what the Clintons receive and answer to it.
And, I'm glad that Hillary does answer it and not leave us dangling the way other candidates have left us.
cali
(114,904 posts)And even Greenwald and Snowden have expressed their dismay and strongly condemned his release of DNC emails and other materials that contain personal info and contact info.
Festivito
(13,514 posts)As it should.
Yes, I would frown at releasing personal information. I do not know why in the this case, wikileaks did not redact. There may be a reason. I can understand dismay. Dismay is not a strong dun.
I do think our American preoccupation with privacy arises from years of bad governance resulting in privately insured health care for one.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Seems to have a very narrow focus. You're being played.
Festivito
(13,514 posts)I think what you think is happening to me, I think is happening to you.
Good luck.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Are made a joke when he refuses to deal with the legal repercussions of being being a rapist (not to mention the immorality of being a rapist).
Festivito
(13,514 posts)And when both women and several prosecutors say it's not and only one prosecutor says it is, at least call it alleged rape.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)supporting an anti-Semite?
Festivito
(13,514 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)who stands in way of a nuclear powered fascist dictatorship in America.
The leader of the *Not Hillary* Party, Donald Trump thanks you.
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baldguy
(36,649 posts)Not nearly.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Yes, we all know it's debunked, but Julian "the antisemitic rapist" Assange is PROMOTING Clinton Cash as if it's real.
And you are proudly supporting him?
Da fuq?
Festivito
(13,514 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Who also happens to be an antisemite and a racist. You can try to gloss over it all you want, but Assange is a piece of shit.
Festivito
(13,514 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Festivito
(13,514 posts)One was only married to a Jew. Not that it matters.
It could be taken as innocent, but unthinking. Or, it could be taken badly, as trying to point to some huge conspiracy. They deleted it. They have Jewish members on their team.
There are at least three Jewish / Jewish related persons who would like everyone think the bad rather than innocence. And they are vocal.
There are also several Jewish persons who we can be sure see the innocence rather than the bad.
PufPuf23
(9,080 posts)for those of use with less than great internet access.
Politicub
(12,258 posts)Is all Assage amounts to. Piece of garbage then. Bigger piece of garbage now.
TRoN33
(769 posts)He doesn't sound respectable anymore to me.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)He has never had an honorable bone in his body.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Tarheel_Dem
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Egnever
(21,506 posts)His agenda ridden leaks. Glad others are finally recognizing him for what he is though.
Helen Borg
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Sunlei
(22,651 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)"... he hacked into the Pentagon and other US Department of Defense facilities, MILNET, the US Navy, NASA, and Australia's Overseas Telecommunications Commission; Citibank, Lockheed Martin, Motorola, Panasonic, and Xerox; and the Australian National University, La Trobe University, and Stanford University's SRI International.[25] He is thought to have been involved in the WANK (Worms Against Nuclear Killers) hack at NASA in 1989, but he does not acknowledge this.[26][27]
"In September 1991, Assange was discovered hacking into the Melbourne master terminal of Nortel, a Canadian multinational telecommunications corporation.[12] The Australian Federal Police tapped Assange's phone line (he was using a modem), raided his home at the end of October,[28] and eventually charged him in 1994 with 31 counts of hacking and related crimes.[12] In December 1996, he pleaded guilty to 25 charges ...." wiki
ismnotwasm
(42,339 posts)I don't know if he started out an idealist or what, wikileaks certainly had potential to be a positive force, but once I started researching his shit, it was clear he's a disgusting individual on several levels.
Initech
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geardaddy
(25,228 posts)The difference is, hopefully you'll never hear Assange say "I'm freeee!"
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to Assange the ass.
geardaddy
(25,228 posts)I just hope to never hear Assange say "I'm freee!" like Mr. Humphries always did.
Throd
(7,208 posts)MineralMan
(146,864 posts)People who laud him for one action he takes can expect to hate him for another. Anarchists have the goal of destroying government. Expect them to attempt to do just that.
Assange is transparent.
cali
(114,904 posts)MineralMan
(146,864 posts)Still, he is an anarchist at heart. Or, at the very least, an anarcho-syndicalist.
It's a political philosophy that remains untested, though. With luck, it will remain untested. Like most anarchists, Assange believes that what he believes is better than what everyone else believes. Narcissism underlies most anarchistic philosophy, really.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Assange is a malignant, malicious figure.
nolabear
(42,571 posts)Trump-Putin-Russia-Assange-Breitbart-Manafort-it looks a WHOLE lot like they are insinuating themselves deeply into the American political process and trying to pervert it.
And the damned GOP is investigating Hillary's emails for the umpteenth time???
demosincebirth
(12,680 posts)Lisa0825
(14,489 posts)I was always wary of him, and never thought he was some sort of hero like most here did. I did not believe he was doing what he did for the public good. I just had a really negative feeling about the guy, and when the rape allegations came out, I thought he probably really was the asshole I instinctively thought he was. Now I feel like all my initial misgivings have been proven correct.
demosincebirth
(12,680 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)until I found out he was an anti-Semite.
uponit7771
(91,028 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I thought he was filling his own needs.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)fuck the guy.
Behind the Aegis
(54,662 posts)Though, it is likely not a drawback for many, and may even be a plus for some.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)You are angry because he's attacking your candidate.
And is there anything WikiLeaks has leaked that is wrong?
I understand you are upset because everyone seems to be attacking the Democrats. But the reason for that is because the Democrats have controlled the executive for 8 years. Enemies have been made. Assange is in full belief that Obama and Hillary want to take him down. So yeah, he's got some bias against them.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,285 posts)Trumped up rape charges that, as someone also pointed out, both women and the initial lawyers assigned to the case are not agreeing with, charges brought on for the underhanded purpose of extraditing him to the US so he can set an example of what happens to someone that dares to reveal what's behind the curtain.
And if we never supported anyone with personal flaws who would we support? MLK had personal flaws. So did JFK. And so does Hillary Clinton.
Truth is what's important. Demonization of Assange and what he represents is exactly what those working to shut down net neutrality and bringing on the Corporatocracy want. Sad to see so many, even on DU fall for that insidious crap.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Leaking the names of women in Turkey and putting them in danger? Not cool.
It's not transparency, it's not whistleblowing, it's just being an asshole.
reorg
(3,317 posts)The person who made these files available posted the following article to correct the record:
In short:
1. Its deliberately misleading.
2. It leaves out a lot of relevant information.
3. It continues to be inaccurate on points despite the author knowing better.
4. It goes out of its way to criticize WikiLeaks, regardless of accuracy or relevance. ...
... not only did she leave out the mention that WikiLeaks didnt upload, host, or release the files in question, it was deliberately worded to give the false impression that they did. Wikileaks dumped some 300,000 emails they chose to call Erdogan emails. However, this dump does include massive databases containing sensitive and private information of millions of ordinary people, including a special database of almost all adult women in Turkey.
... before WikiLeaks could release it the full load was dumped online and then made more widely available by The Cthulhu. Her article still does not acknowledge his role or the role of Phineas Fisher, who actually acquired and released the files.
https://glomardisclosure.com/2016/08/08/what-a-hit-piece-against-wikileaks-looks-like/
See also:
The Who and How of the AKP Hack, Dump and WikiLeaks Release
The above mentioned misleading accusations and lies were published by someone called Zeynep Tufekci, a professor who writes articles in the Huffington Post and books with titles such as "Beautiful Tear Gas: The Ecstatic, Fragile Politics of Networked Protest in the 21st Century", uhuh, oh-kay ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zeynep-tufekci/wikileaks-erdogan-emails_b_11158792.html
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Dumping peoples' personal information willy-nilly is irresponsible.
reorg
(3,317 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Wikileaks exists ostensibly to force transparency from the powerful. But what happens when state-sponsored hackers feed information to Wikileaks with the intention of destabilizing a competitor?
Assange needs to sit down and contemplate whether or not that makes him complicit in the very power games he's supposedly out to expose.
cali
(114,904 posts)Yes, leaking personal information is wrong.
And man, are you clueless about me and my history here.
Btw, there was always something that rubbed me the wrong way about Assange personally- it has nothing to do with the purported sexual assaults in Sweden. It far precedes that. And much as I appreciate some of the work WikiLeaks has done, I think trying to influence the U.S. election in the way he's proceeding, is contemptible.
I am one of the least rah rah team blue people on DU. Long have been. I don't work that way.
But hey, I don't mind getting bullshit thrown at me out of ignorance. It's not evidence of my stupidity.
BainsBane
(53,834 posts)I'm not ashamed to say I told people so.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)And there are those on this site (and in this thread) who still defend him against that, and his antisemitism.