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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:00 AM Aug 2016

That's it. Fuck you Julian Assange.

I can't post the link because it's from a wingnut site, but evidently over the past weekend, WikiLeaks sent out a tweet- and at this point WikiLeaks IS Assange, to its millions of followers with a link to the YouTube "documentary" of 'Clinton Cash'.

Despicable. He's openly trying to interfere with the Presidential elections using scurrilous right wing shit.

Once upon a time ago, WikiLeaks had the potential to be a valuable tool against government malfeasance. Now it is what it purports to fight- corrupt.

So fuck you very much, Mr. Assange.

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That's it. Fuck you Julian Assange. (Original Post) cali Aug 2016 OP
Breitbart uploaded a copy on 25 Jul and there are 4 or 5 other full length vids KewlKat Aug 2016 #1
ITS NOT TRUMP. ASSANGE VENDETTA AGAINST THE CLINTONS! cynzke Aug 2016 #12
It's hard to imagine all this effort being spent on what is clearly a losing candidate. randome Aug 2016 #2
My guess - he's trying to get asylum in Russia underpants Aug 2016 #20
Putin's already got his international defector. Better try something else, Assange. brush Aug 2016 #40
He's always been like this. Adrahil Aug 2016 #3
Yes, he's always been like this, but for a time he was counterbalanced by others cali Aug 2016 #6
Yup, I do. NT Adrahil Aug 2016 #11
My Hardcore Bernie or Bust younger brother thinks Assange is an avenging angel ehrnst Aug 2016 #10
Yup, he's a hero at JPR. NT Adrahil Aug 2016 #15
yeah, I was always a little leery of him but thought he was doing something worthwhile Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #17
After the Moscow files were shunted it became clear Wikileaks is an arm of Russian intelligence. joshcryer Aug 2016 #4
was a well timed move for the security businesses to release the report that named 2 russian groups Sunlei Aug 2016 #25
Putin and the Russians are the Republican patsies in this case. Republicans are the hackers and Coyotl Aug 2016 #72
No. I say wrongheaded-Assange-bashing aside. Here are "Clinton cash" refutation links. Festivito Aug 2016 #5
I no longer do. And I haven't for some years. Why? Because WikiLeaks has become his cali Aug 2016 #7
If I started not supporting anything where power went to someones head, I'd support nothing. Festivito Aug 2016 #24
bullpucky. His agenda has little to do with freedom at this point. cali Aug 2016 #27
That would be his own freedom cali. His fight for transparency does then come second. Festivito Aug 2016 #33
His fight for "transparency"... Adrahil Aug 2016 #42
He publishes information he receives. So far, the right wing has not yielded. Festivito Aug 2016 #59
His claim of supporting transparency mythology Aug 2016 #43
Not really. Personal freedom is very compelling as a superseding argument. Festivito Aug 2016 #46
How do you feel about awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #53
Don't wish to do it. Note my earlier post. Festivito Aug 2016 #58
You support the guy who attackes the one person baldguy Aug 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Aug 2016 #16
And supporting Assange in being Putin's puppet to attack Clinton won't solve the problem either. baldguy Aug 2016 #19
You're supporting the guy who is promoting "Clinton Cash"? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #14
I have dealt with your assertive posts before and they proved to be wrong. eom Festivito Aug 2016 #31
Says the guy who supports Trump's biggest supporter. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #44
Oh my! No. eom Festivito Aug 2016 #45
I think you reconsider support of wikileaks.... Adrahil Aug 2016 #18
They noticed their detractors were Jewish. I think they did not know why 3 detractors were Jewish. Festivito Aug 2016 #30
www.hillaryclinton.com is a very fast loading web page PufPuf23 Aug 2016 #56
A well-compensated narcissist Politicub Aug 2016 #8
I'm feeling the same about Assange. TRoN33 Aug 2016 #13
I'm proud to say that I called him a traitorous, lying, little shit from day one. FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #21
Yep, same here. nt stevenleser Aug 2016 #34
^^This. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #47
Yup recognized his smarmy butt the first time he posted Egnever Aug 2016 #61
Right, because people could not find that link with Google... Helen Borg Aug 2016 #22
I've always wondered why his own country doesn't help him. Sunlei Aug 2016 #23
Australia is strangely silent on this asshole, isn't it? randome Aug 2016 #28
Because Australia does not help their home grown criminals. D'oh! Coyotl Aug 2016 #73
Yeah I've been there quite awhile ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #26
Clinton Cash - yet another steaming pile of bullshit brought to you by Fox News. Initech Aug 2016 #29
Everytime I see his face, I can't help but see Mr. Humphries' face from Are you Being Served geardaddy Aug 2016 #32
I see the resemblance but ugh, poor Mr. Humphries was a sweet guy who doesnt deserve the comparison stevenleser Aug 2016 #35
True. geardaddy Aug 2016 #37
I see the serial killer from "Dirty Harry" Throd Aug 2016 #48
Assange's political philosophy is essentially anarchistic. MineralMan Aug 2016 #36
I think his political philosophy is overwhelmed by his personal agenda(s) cali Aug 2016 #38
That, too. MineralMan Aug 2016 #39
I warned everyone this was coming after that bullshit in new Zealand Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #41
Clinton Cash was produced by the people now running Trump's campaign geek tragedy Aug 2016 #49
I'm glad you brought that up. There are some very tight and disturbing connections here. nolabear Aug 2016 #50
We all loved Mr Assange a few years ago. demosincebirth Aug 2016 #51
Not all of us. Lisa0825 Aug 2016 #52
I always thought he was a self-absorbed opportunist demosincebirth Aug 2016 #60
I was behind him awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #54
nope... uponit7771 Aug 2016 #62
Not me gwheezie Aug 2016 #76
He showed his antisemitic ass, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #55
That he did. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #64
you got that right Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #57
If Assange released Trump's tax returns, everyone here would be calling him a hero davidn3600 Aug 2016 #63
I agree LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #66
I think leaking peoples' personal information is wrong, yes. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #67
Wikileaks was not “putting women in danger” reorg Aug 2016 #70
It doesnt matter who wrote the huffpo article. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #77
which Wikileaks didn't do, as you knew, if you read the previous post n/t reorg Aug 2016 #78
My concern is deeper than that. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #71
Um. No. I would not be applauding him. cali Aug 2016 #75
Evading rape charges did it for me BainsBane Aug 2016 #65
Indeed. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #74
K&R. Agree. Fuck you very much Assange, you raping piece of shit. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #68
Either get back to exposing republicans or we're not going to support you. ileus Aug 2016 #69

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
1. Breitbart uploaded a copy on 25 Jul and there are 4 or 5 other full length vids
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:10 AM
Aug 2016

some as far back as May. Maybe those interested in watching that trash have gotten it out of their system.

Agree that Ass-ange is doing what he can to make drumpf our fuhrer.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. It's hard to imagine all this effort being spent on what is clearly a losing candidate.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:13 AM
Aug 2016

All the people attaching themselves to Trump and parroting his every utterance. Are they so blind or so desperate they don't see what's happening?

In Assange's case, I guess 'desperation' counts. But all these others? I don't get it.
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underpants

(182,585 posts)
20. My guess - he's trying to get asylum in Russia
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:42 AM
Aug 2016

or at least have Putin arrange for asylum somewhere. Assange is probably desperate ate this point, he should know better than getting mixed up with Putin.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
3. He's always been like this.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:14 AM
Aug 2016

He isn't interested in you, or "freedom" or "transparency." He never has been. This is, and always has been about him, his ego, and his personal vandettas.

Hopefully, most of the American left is finally over this fraud.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Yes, he's always been like this, but for a time he was counterbalanced by others
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:36 AM
Aug 2016

I'm sure you remember the big fallouts most of his one time collaborators had with him.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. My Hardcore Bernie or Bust younger brother thinks Assange is an avenging angel
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:15 AM
Aug 2016

At this point anything that smears Hillary is credible with him.

I'm sure that there are more like him.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
17. yeah, I was always a little leery of him but thought he was doing something worthwhile
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:35 AM
Aug 2016

Now I can see he's a piece of shit.

I just hope Democracy Now! stops giving him airtime like he's god. I can't watch that crap.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
4. After the Moscow files were shunted it became clear Wikileaks is an arm of Russian intelligence.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:28 AM
Aug 2016

Of course, the clue was when LulzSec got raided and the entire group of Anonymous hackers (hactivists) was arrested, and Wikileaks promised support but then quietly forget about them. Those guys were going after everyone, and if you were Wikileaks and supported them, that means that your master state could be threatened, can't have that.

Mind you, what LulzSec did was extremely bad, they were responsible for many really terrible leaks and they were relentless with their targets (at the time it was almost mythical how they hacked). But LulzSec comprised the "ethos" of Wikileaks. Full transparency, everything gets leaked, leak it all.

And to allow that to continue to happen with their master state potentially at risk was too much.

Mind you I don't suspect collusion, it's more ideological in my observation than it is infiltration, but it would not surprise me if Wikileak's inner circle has Russian (and even US) moles.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. was a well timed move for the security businesses to release the report that named 2 russian groups
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:04 AM
Aug 2016

Public would have never known if not for that.

Makes me wonder why Russian Government holds on to any republican files/emails they may have hacked over the years. Blackmail is a very powerful tool.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
72. Putin and the Russians are the Republican patsies in this case. Republicans are the hackers and
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:03 AM
Aug 2016

the person leaking is exposing the hackers. This is bigger than Watergate, which started with two phone taps.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. I no longer do. And I haven't for some years. Why? Because WikiLeaks has become his
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:38 AM
Aug 2016

own little fiefdom. It's about as "wiki" as a hole in the head at this point.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
24. If I started not supporting anything where power went to someones head, I'd support nothing.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:59 AM
Aug 2016

Assange supports freedom and transparency through his wikileaks. Those ideas combined with the randomness of how he receives information can lead to wikileaks seemingly to hurt one side of a fight more than another.

We know how Clarence Thomas through his wife's job can receive dirty money. We just don't know when and how much. We should. We should also know what the Clintons receive and answer to it.

And, I'm glad that Hillary does answer it and not leave us dangling the way other candidates have left us.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. bullpucky. His agenda has little to do with freedom at this point.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

And even Greenwald and Snowden have expressed their dismay and strongly condemned his release of DNC emails and other materials that contain personal info and contact info.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
33. That would be his own freedom cali. His fight for transparency does then come second.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:41 AM
Aug 2016

As it should.

Yes, I would frown at releasing personal information. I do not know why in the this case, wikileaks did not redact. There may be a reason. I can understand dismay. Dismay is not a strong dun.

I do think our American preoccupation with privacy arises from years of bad governance resulting in privately insured health care for one.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
59. He publishes information he receives. So far, the right wing has not yielded.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Aug 2016

I think what you think is happening to me, I think is happening to you.

Good luck.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
43. His claim of supporting transparency
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:52 AM
Aug 2016

Are made a joke when he refuses to deal with the legal repercussions of being being a rapist (not to mention the immorality of being a rapist).

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
46. Not really. Personal freedom is very compelling as a superseding argument.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:25 AM
Aug 2016

And when both women and several prosecutors say it's not and only one prosecutor says it is, at least call it alleged rape.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. You support the guy who attackes the one person
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:01 AM
Aug 2016

who stands in way of a nuclear powered fascist dictatorship in America.

The leader of the *Not Hillary* Party, Donald Trump thanks you.

Response to baldguy (Reply #9)

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
19. And supporting Assange in being Putin's puppet to attack Clinton won't solve the problem either.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:39 AM
Aug 2016

Not nearly.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
14. You're supporting the guy who is promoting "Clinton Cash"?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016

Yes, we all know it's debunked, but Julian "the antisemitic rapist" Assange is PROMOTING Clinton Cash as if it's real.

And you are proudly supporting him?


Da fuq?

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
44. Says the guy who supports Trump's biggest supporter.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:56 AM
Aug 2016

Who also happens to be an antisemite and a racist. You can try to gloss over it all you want, but Assange is a piece of shit.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
30. They noticed their detractors were Jewish. I think they did not know why 3 detractors were Jewish.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:24 AM
Aug 2016

One was only married to a Jew. Not that it matters.

It could be taken as innocent, but unthinking. Or, it could be taken badly, as trying to point to some huge conspiracy. They deleted it. They have Jewish members on their team.

There are at least three Jewish / Jewish related persons who would like everyone think the bad rather than innocence. And they are vocal.

There are also several Jewish persons who we can be sure see the innocence rather than the bad.

PufPuf23

(8,751 posts)
56. www.hillaryclinton.com is a very fast loading web page
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:48 PM
Aug 2016

for those of use with less than great internet access.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
8. A well-compensated narcissist
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:41 AM
Aug 2016

Is all Assage amounts to. Piece of garbage then. Bigger piece of garbage now.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
21. I'm proud to say that I called him a traitorous, lying, little shit from day one.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:45 AM
Aug 2016

He has never had an honorable bone in his body.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
61. Yup recognized his smarmy butt the first time he posted
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:09 PM
Aug 2016

His agenda ridden leaks. Glad others are finally recognizing him for what he is though.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
28. Australia is strangely silent on this asshole, isn't it?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
73. Because Australia does not help their home grown criminals. D'oh!
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 08:07 AM
Aug 2016

"... he hacked into the Pentagon and other US Department of Defense facilities, MILNET, the US Navy, NASA, and Australia's Overseas Telecommunications Commission; Citibank, Lockheed Martin, Motorola, Panasonic, and Xerox; and the Australian National University, La Trobe University, and Stanford University's SRI International.[25] He is thought to have been involved in the WANK (Worms Against Nuclear Killers) hack at NASA in 1989, but he does not acknowledge this.[26][27]

"In September 1991, Assange was discovered hacking into the Melbourne master terminal of Nortel, a Canadian multinational telecommunications corporation.[12] The Australian Federal Police tapped Assange's phone line (he was using a modem), raided his home at the end of October,[28] and eventually charged him in 1994 with 31 counts of hacking and related crimes.[12] In December 1996, he pleaded guilty to 25 charges ...." wiki

ismnotwasm

(41,956 posts)
26. Yeah I've been there quite awhile
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:10 AM
Aug 2016

I don't know if he started out an idealist or what, wikileaks certainly had potential to be a positive force, but once I started researching his shit, it was clear he's a disgusting individual on several levels.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
32. Everytime I see his face, I can't help but see Mr. Humphries' face from Are you Being Served
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:40 AM
Aug 2016

The difference is, hopefully you'll never hear Assange say "I'm freeee!"


 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
35. I see the resemblance but ugh, poor Mr. Humphries was a sweet guy who doesnt deserve the comparison
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:57 AM
Aug 2016

to Assange the ass.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
36. Assange's political philosophy is essentially anarchistic.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
Aug 2016

People who laud him for one action he takes can expect to hate him for another. Anarchists have the goal of destroying government. Expect them to attempt to do just that.

Assange is transparent.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
39. That, too.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:26 AM
Aug 2016

Still, he is an anarchist at heart. Or, at the very least, an anarcho-syndicalist.

It's a political philosophy that remains untested, though. With luck, it will remain untested. Like most anarchists, Assange believes that what he believes is better than what everyone else believes. Narcissism underlies most anarchistic philosophy, really.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
49. Clinton Cash was produced by the people now running Trump's campaign
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

Assange is a malignant, malicious figure.

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
50. I'm glad you brought that up. There are some very tight and disturbing connections here.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

Trump-Putin-Russia-Assange-Breitbart-Manafort-it looks a WHOLE lot like they are insinuating themselves deeply into the American political process and trying to pervert it.

And the damned GOP is investigating Hillary's emails for the umpteenth time???

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
52. Not all of us.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 07:21 PM
Aug 2016

I was always wary of him, and never thought he was some sort of hero like most here did. I did not believe he was doing what he did for the public good. I just had a really negative feeling about the guy, and when the rape allegations came out, I thought he probably really was the asshole I instinctively thought he was. Now I feel like all my initial misgivings have been proven correct.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
63. If Assange released Trump's tax returns, everyone here would be calling him a hero
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:41 PM
Aug 2016

You are angry because he's attacking your candidate.

And is there anything WikiLeaks has leaked that is wrong?

I understand you are upset because everyone seems to be attacking the Democrats. But the reason for that is because the Democrats have controlled the executive for 8 years. Enemies have been made. Assange is in full belief that Obama and Hillary want to take him down. So yeah, he's got some bias against them.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
66. I agree
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:26 AM
Aug 2016

Trumped up rape charges that, as someone also pointed out, both women and the initial lawyers assigned to the case are not agreeing with, charges brought on for the underhanded purpose of extraditing him to the US so he can set an example of what happens to someone that dares to reveal what's behind the curtain.

And if we never supported anyone with personal flaws who would we support? MLK had personal flaws. So did JFK. And so does Hillary Clinton.

Truth is what's important. Demonization of Assange and what he represents is exactly what those working to shut down net neutrality and bringing on the Corporatocracy want. Sad to see so many, even on DU fall for that insidious crap.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
67. I think leaking peoples' personal information is wrong, yes.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:19 AM
Aug 2016

Leaking the names of women in Turkey and putting them in danger? Not cool.

It's not transparency, it's not whistleblowing, it's just being an asshole.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
70. Wikileaks was not “putting women in danger”
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:34 AM
Aug 2016

The person who made these files available posted the following article to correct the record:

What an agenda against WikiLeaks looks like

In short:

1. It’s deliberately misleading.
2. It leaves out a lot of relevant information.
3. It continues to be inaccurate on points despite the author knowing better.
4. It goes out of its way to criticize WikiLeaks, regardless of accuracy or relevance. ...

... not only did she leave out the mention that WikiLeaks didn’t upload, host, or release the files in question, it was deliberately worded to give the false impression that they did. “Wikileaks dumped some 300,000 emails they chose to call ‘Erdogan emails.’ … However, this dump does include massive databases containing sensitive and private information of millions of ordinary people, including a special database of almost all adult women in Turkey.

... before WikiLeaks could release it the full load was dumped online and then made more widely available by The Cthulhu. Her article still does not acknowledge his role or the role of Phineas Fisher, who actually acquired and released the files.

https://glomardisclosure.com/2016/08/08/what-a-hit-piece-against-wikileaks-looks-like/

See also:

The Who and How of the AKP Hack, Dump and WikiLeaks Release


The above mentioned misleading accusations and lies were published by someone called Zeynep Tufekci, a professor who writes articles in the Huffington Post and books with titles such as "Beautiful Tear Gas: The Ecstatic, Fragile Politics of Networked Protest in the 21st Century", uhuh, oh-kay ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zeynep-tufekci/wikileaks-erdogan-emails_b_11158792.html

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
77. It doesnt matter who wrote the huffpo article.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

Dumping peoples' personal information willy-nilly is irresponsible.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
71. My concern is deeper than that.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:48 AM
Aug 2016

Wikileaks exists ostensibly to force transparency from the powerful. But what happens when state-sponsored hackers feed information to Wikileaks with the intention of destabilizing a competitor?

Assange needs to sit down and contemplate whether or not that makes him complicit in the very power games he's supposedly out to expose.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
75. Um. No. I would not be applauding him.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

Yes, leaking personal information is wrong.

And man, are you clueless about me and my history here.

Btw, there was always something that rubbed me the wrong way about Assange personally- it has nothing to do with the purported sexual assaults in Sweden. It far precedes that. And much as I appreciate some of the work WikiLeaks has done, I think trying to influence the U.S. election in the way he's proceeding, is contemptible.

I am one of the least rah rah team blue people on DU. Long have been. I don't work that way.

But hey, I don't mind getting bullshit thrown at me out of ignorance. It's not evidence of my stupidity.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
74. Indeed.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

And there are those on this site (and in this thread) who still defend him against that, and his antisemitism.

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