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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs I travel around the area and see all of the Trump signs in front of conservative neighbors' homes
I think back to all of the excuses they gave for not supporting the Democratic candidate in past elections.
Clinton is a lying womanizer.
Clinton is a draft-dodger.
That Kerry disrespects the men and women who served our country.
Kerry is a flip-flopper.
Clinton is our national embarrassment (actual phrase used by a local newspaper's editorial page every time Clinton was mentioned).
Clinton, Kerry and Obama are baby killers because they support women's rights to choose.
I can go on and on.
Now, fast-forward to 2016 and these same people and media support Trump, who is all of these traits on steroids that they used in slamming the Democrats. They not only support Trump, but enthusiastically embrace everything he's said and done during the campaign. It actually affirms everything I've suspected about these people: It's all about the party, and what their party's candidate does to their lives and the well-being of this country is second-or third-tier stuff. Just win baby. It's like they're rooting for their favorite football team or something.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)A real advantage of doing so (while keeping Republican riffraff out) is never having to look at some fool with a yard full or right wing signage. It's a dark blue area in a pale blue state.
packman
(16,296 posts)Deep red Florida Panhandle, neighbor across the street had a chair sitting in his front yard (Clint Eastwood , remember). Next door clown who has flown his flag upside down for 8 years - Obama, you know - no signs. Two doors down a nut-case who had a forest of signs for all the local conservative office seekers still has yet to post a Trump sign.
The only one I've seen is on a back road we take to get to town and that sign is bent and twisted.
Actually, quite remarkable in all that quietness.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)There were dozens of Romney signs and stickers, last time around. I think even the right-wingers are profoundly embarrassed by Trump---as they damn well ought to be.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)at the number of Trump signs. In my little subdivision, maybe a 100 houses, There's at least 30 plus.
I don't really understand it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)just being polite. Your warped priorities and values are the menace to America they must keep in check. That said, these days just ask about integration of their values with Trump. The more intelligent will probably refuse to answer, unable to, but it won't change a thing.
Btw, scientists report that conservatives mostly process information emotionally first, then send it on for analysis (liberals the other direction). I'm guessing in these very confusing and contradictory days many are just skipping the second step. They know what they believe in and which side believes as they do, even if they can't explain what happened to their side, where it is, where it's going, or how its actions are still right and not wrong.
It's the same for many DEMs, the just win thing, all about the party, etc.
If they're conservative they're not going to support the DEM nominee, and why would they?
I think folks should support who they want and believe in what they want. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. That's the good thing about America.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)DJT is a clear and present danger to this country and the world.
I avoid republicans when I can, like the walking dead.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I didn't see anyone make the argument that everyone should in fact, agree with you. That's another (rather than "the" good thing about America... we can argue points no one else makes should it suit our own narrative.
Meh, indeed.
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)To avoid the sea of Trump signs down the street. How can I talk to these otherwise reasonable people again?
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Every election there are signs all over the place for republicans, from President on down to local races. This year is pretty much the same, except I have not seen on sign up for Trump, not one. I did see a bumper sticker the other day when I went shopping in another town, but it was one of those "make America great again" stickers. Even in that town, very red also, not one trump sign, but lots of other signs for republicans running.
I have never seen this before, never. I am sure some around here support Trump, but to not see one sign out for him says a lot.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The worse of an asshole you are, the better leader you are. Isn't that obvious?
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)no longer put their party affiliation on the signs? I suppose it it may be in the fine print.
It seems even in this part Arizona, where all you need is the (R) to be elected, they no longer proudly put the GOP logo on their signs.
Johonny
(20,841 posts)To pretend to be liberal. It's a slightly different blue, but yes they're all about running away from the Republican party.
Wednesdays
(17,362 posts)and I live in white suburbia in deep-red Oklahoma.
There was one tRump sign in a yard about a mile from me, during the primaries. After that, they took it down and I have not seen it since.
bulloney
(4,113 posts)I haven't seen a Clinton sign within 40 miles of where I live. You have to go into Toledo before you find any Clinton signs.
Johonny
(20,841 posts)voter. There's nothing they claim to vote for that they haven't countless times voted against.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)In our current political environment facts no longer matter, and positions on issues matter only as shibboleths showing which team you are on.
Ace Rothstein
(3,161 posts)1. The original one in my neighborhood is now gone. Someone probably defaced it or stole it.
2. This one was quite large. Someone drew a giant dick on it.
3. This one is still up, kind of. It is a different color now so someone probably defaced the original.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)That's really what it comes down to, if you're trying to boil their philosophy down to a single sentence.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The comparative political abilities of Clinton and Trump are not driving this sentiment. As far as I can tell, the emotion that is at work has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the ongoing elimination of the middle class.
The term "revolt of the rubes" was apparently coined by David Stockman in this article from a couple of days ago:
I call this insurrection the revolt of the rubes in Flyover America.
This uprising against the rule of the financial and political elites has counterparts abroad among those who voted for Brexit in the UK, against Merkel in the recent German elections in her home state, and among the growing tide of anti-Brussels sentiment reflected in polls throughout the EC.
Needless to say, the political upheaval now underway is largely an inchoate reaction to the policy failures and arrogant pretensions of the establishment rulers. Like Donald Trump himself, it does not reflect a coherent programmatic alternative.
He represents a raw insurgency of attack, derision, impertinence and repudiation.
People who are trying to shape the outcome of this election using (only) accepted political criteria are totally missing the deeper message of Trump's otherwise inexplicable popularity.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Millionaires Row where I live (a stretch of mansions on the lakefront of NE Ohio) in years past has proudly displayed Dimson, McCain, Romney and Kasich signs in front of their tree lawns.
This year . . . not ONE Trump sign. Not ONE. There was an "Elect Jesus" and a "Portman for Senate".
Not one Trump sign.
In fact, I'm not seeing a Trump sign anywhere in the middle/lower income sections of ANY neighborhood I'm driving through.
A better sign is that there are more local politicians being supported than national ones.
Guess people are simply fed up with what they've been dealt.