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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:20 PM Sep 2016

President Obama on Colin Kaepernick: ‘He’s Exercising His Constitutional Right’



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During a trip to China for the G20 Summit of world leaders, President Obama weighed in on Colin Kaepernick’s decision to sit during the national anthem. While the NFL star’s protest has polarized many—with some calling his decision disrespectful to the military, and many veterans speaking out to show their support for the quarterback—President Obama said Kaepernick is “exercising his Constitutional right.”

Though he admitted he hadn’t been following the controversy closely, President Obama affirmed Kaepernick’s right to protest.

“In terms of Mr. Kaepernick, I’ve got to confess that I haven’t been thinking about football while I’ve been over here and I haven’t been following this closely, but my understanding, at least, is that he’s exercising his Constitutional right to make a statement,” he said. “I think there’s a long history of sports figures doing so. I think there are a lot of ways you can do it.”


The president acknowledged it may be difficult for some to get past their feelings about Kaepernick’s actions to see his broader point—the need for racial justice–but he said the football star has raised even more awareness about “topics that need to be talked about.”

“As a general matter, when it comes to the flag, and the national anthem, and the meaning it holds for our men and women in uniform and those who fought for us, that is a tough thing for them to get past, to then hear what his deeper concerns are,” President Obama said. “But I don’t doubt his sincerity, based on what I’ve heard. I think he cares about some real, legitimate issues that have to be talked about. And if nothing else, what he’s done is he’s generated more conversation around some topics that need to be talked about.”

Since his silent protest gained national attention, the San Francisco Police Officers Association slammed his decision, claiming the star “embarrassed himself,” while members of the Santa Clara Police Union have threatened to quit working the San Francisco 49ers games unless Kaepernick changes his stance.

Despite the outrage, support for Kaepernick continues to grow. His jersey is now the most popular jersey sold by the team, and players like 49ers star Eric Reid, Seattle Seahawks Jeremy Lane, and soccer player Megan Rapinoe have all joined in on the protest.





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President Obama on Colin Kaepernick: ‘He’s Exercising His Constitutional Right’ (Original Post) Stellar Sep 2016 OP
But but but malaise Sep 2016 #1
...and everybody knows that their rights are more important. (snark) nt Stellar Sep 2016 #2
Literally nobody has said that, ever. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #3
No. But they sure do squeal when you don't respect their gun fetishes. hunter Sep 2016 #4
Not true, malaise just said it. It's spot on too. It's the way gun fetish Exilednight Sep 2016 #6
Literally nobody has said Kaepernick shouldn't have his First Amendment rights to speech. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #9
Regressive leftist is the new right-wing talking point. Sad to see it come to DU Exilednight Sep 2016 #10
"I do NOT assume everyone besides me is a right-winger. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #12
It is what it is. It was started by a right-wing hack as a pejorative Exilednight Sep 2016 #13
I don't care where it came from. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #14
Maybe you should read the TOS about right-wing talking points. Exilednight Sep 2016 #15
Is it really a right-wing talking point? NuclearDem Sep 2016 #17
It is a right-wing talking point. it was a meme started by a right-wing Exilednight Sep 2016 #18
Citation needed. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #21
Then feel free to post your citation since you feel so strongly about it. Exilednight Sep 2016 #22
You want me to read your mind and provide a citation for your own claim? NuclearDem Sep 2016 #23
Colin needs to speak out for GLBT community while he has the spotlight!!! frankieallen Sep 2016 #5
Was anyone saying he didn't? Seeking Serenity Sep 2016 #7
SFPD union wants the 49ers to punish him. Exilednight Sep 2016 #11
So? That's one private organization asking (imploring) Seeking Serenity Sep 2016 #16
It's a bit different, since Colin can't be punished per the NFLPA. Exilednight Sep 2016 #20
I don't think that a statement implying one is exercising a right is made only to LanternWaste Sep 2016 #19
He has guts. I don't like to stand during the national anthem either. phasma ex machina Sep 2016 #8

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
6. Not true, malaise just said it. It's spot on too. It's the way gun fetish
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:02 PM
Sep 2016

sadists think. They'll be the first to point out the 2nd when anyone even mentions intelligent legislation, but are the first to put down CK when he exercises his 1st amendment right.

You can always tell which side of the political spectrum someone is on when you look at how they respond to a 2nd amendment argument, or someone who protests against white privilege.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. Literally nobody has said Kaepernick shouldn't have his First Amendment rights to speech.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:50 PM
Sep 2016

Disagreeing with him and thinking he's an idiot are not the same as wanting to deny him rights. That's an absolutely absurd strawman.

You can always tell which side of the political spectrum someone is on when you look at how they respond to a 2nd amendment argument, or someone who protests against white privilege.


Actually, no, you really can't. Regressive leftists tend to think this is true because to them everybody but themselves is a rightwinger, but that's hardly the case.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
10. Regressive leftist is the new right-wing talking point. Sad to see it come to DU
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:21 PM
Sep 2016

And I've seen and heard plenty of people saying that CK needs to get in line and stop criticizing SFPD.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
12. "I do NOT assume everyone besides me is a right-winger.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:33 PM
Sep 2016

And anyone who says so is just a right-winger."

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
13. It is what it is. It was started by a right-wing hack as a pejorative
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:39 PM
Sep 2016

against people who support Obama.

I just wonder why do people from DU need to parrot Limbaugh disciples?

And yes, that's a question towards you since you used it. Why do you parrot someone who worships Limbaugh?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
14. I don't care where it came from.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:54 PM
Sep 2016

It's a term that fits the social justice Marxism crowd in the left that's working to tear apart the liberties and values at the foundation of Western society, so as an actual liberal who thinks such things are pretty neat and would like to keep them, I'm going to use it. Stop pushing regressive ideas and I'll stop using the term.

It's quite fun watching the guy complaining about parroting right-wingers simultaneously do his best Joseph McCarthy impression.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. Is it really a right-wing talking point?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:00 AM
Sep 2016

Or are you just using that as a circumstantial ad hominem to avoid having to discuss what you know to be a weak position?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
18. It is a right-wing talking point. it was a meme started by a right-wing
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:08 AM
Sep 2016

libertarian as a pejorative against progressives.

As far as the issue goes, I've more than pointed out that right-wing media has told CK that he has no right to act on any other manner than to stand and keep quiet. Now the SFPD's union wants him punished for exercising his rights. I stand with President Obama and support CK.

Have a good day.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
21. Citation needed.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

It was actually coined by a Liberal Democrat politician in the United Kingdom to describe people on the left who defend the regressive ideas of Islam for the sake of multiculturalism. It's been popularly used by Dave Rubin (used to have a show on The Young Turks, not exactly a right-wing libertarian network), Bill Maher (the guy who gave Obama a million bucks to get him reelected), Richard Dawkins (a LibDem supporter), and David Pakman (who uses it to call out leftist authoritarianism).

So, no, it didn't originate with the Right. It originated with actual liberals calling out people on the left for tolerating and advocating distinctly illiberal viewpoints.

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
7. Was anyone saying he didn't?
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

Like, that the government should arrest or otherwise punish him for not standing for the national anthem? I must have missed that.

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
16. So? That's one private organization asking (imploring)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:45 AM
Sep 2016

another private organization to punish its contract employee. No government involvement there that I can see.

On edit: I don't agree with demands that Colin K be disciplined by the 49ers, but if the team does, they're not "violating his Constitutional rights," any more than a private business that doesn't permit firearms to be brought into its establishment is violating the Constitutional rights of gun owners.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
20. It's a bit different, since Colin can't be punished per the NFLPA.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:11 AM
Sep 2016

If the 49ers did punish him, his rights by collective bargaining would be violated.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. I don't think that a statement implying one is exercising a right is made only to
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:09 AM
Sep 2016

I don't think that a statement implying one is exercising a right is made only to counter an argument one cannot or is prevented from exercising that right. You may have missed that as well...

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