So what do we do if Trump wins?

[Cyrano]

It’s very doubtful that will happen. But it’s possible.

I haven’t yet decided whether I’ll overdose, head for the airport (my passport is up to date), cry and hope I’m just having a bad trip, establish a liberal militia (which seems to be a contradiction in terms and would be useless in any event), or just go to bed and lay there waiting to die.

In no way can I bring myself to believe that there are enough ignorant/bigoted/stupid people in this country to elect Trump. And I don’t think the GOP tactics of denying minority voters access to the polls in many Republican controlled states will be sufficient to beat Hillary.

Nonetheless, it’s something that keeps me up at night, and I’m sure many of you are also losing sleep over this possibility. I can’t wait until the night of Nov. 8th when Hillary Clinton is declared our next president. I can’t wait for that night when we no longer have to live in dread of a fascist American government.

So, what are you doing to cope with the thoughts I’ve expressed here and which I’m virtually certain that many of you share?

Conversely, what are your celebration plans if/when Hillary wins?

[saidsimplesimon]

1. Cyrano

Save the drama, I am predicting that Donald Trump will never become President.

As a critic of Mormon leadership in the past, I have never seen such a united front in both Utah and Arizona. They will GOTV, will we?

[Cyrano]

3. No drama here. Just trepidation

[LW1977]

2. Move to Canada

[williesgirl]

59. I think they've already said we're not welcome to come there

[MoonRiver]

62. Canada has NOT said any such thing!

[struggle4progress]

4. Before every election, I try to think mainly about what I should do before the election

Y'know, stuff like knocking doors and ringing phones -- trying to make sure enough people are eager enough for my candidates to win that they actually go vote

That way, if my side loses, I don't have to wring my hands tearfully and wonder what I could have done to prevent our loss -- plus, I've been practicing all the organizing skills (like knocking doors and ringing phones) that can be used create effective opposition

[JustAnotherGen]

56. Well said struggle

And a great reminder for each and every one of us.

There's too much at stake to be passive this election.

[get the red out]

5. Plans

If he won, I would get my retirement out of mutual funds and into something that would just sit there, that he couldn't destroy.

Then I would just keep enjoying the company of my husband and dogs hoping we wouldn't have a nuclear holocaust.

WHEN Hillary wins, HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF!!!

[niyad]

6. drink--a lot!!

[The Wielding Truth]

7. I don't know, because it's just not Trump. It will be a Republican led country. PRAY!

[crabsley]

8. Move to another country or

Sit back and watch the show and say "Told Ya"

[Different Drummer]

49. "Sit back and watch the show and say 'Told Ya.'"

This.

[Coyotl]

9. Wait for the alarm to go off, wake up, and try to forget your nightmare.

Trump can only win in your imagination. Nine days from now he has to appear in court for his child rape lawsuit, not?

[dgibby]

25. Can't remember the link,

but just read today that it's been postponed until sometime in Oct because plaintiff needed more time to serve papers.

[duncang]

10. Joking and sarcasm ahead

Just so I don't get grief from this post. Again sarcasm coming up.

Buy a lot of guns and ammo in bulk. Because dipshit is going to have the cockroaches coming out of everywhere. He is normalizing the far right. So I guess I'll be a alt/far left gun totter.


Now a little more serious side. I don't think he will be our next prez. But even if he does I have a feeling both sides of the aisle would be shutting him down on anything close to actually extreme. Even with a Clinton win the far right nut cases seem to be emboldened and I think there will be problems with them. He has brought out the worse in America and reveled in it.

[GeorgeGist]

11. Buy an AR-15 and plenty of ammo.

[a la izquierda]

12. Seriously either moving to Canada, Mexico, or Europe.

[TexasProgresive]

13. Not decided yet, but

Our neighbors to the north may build and pay for a wall to slow the rush.

[world wide wally]

14. I hear New Zealand is lovely in November

[yeoman6987]

16. They have the toughest immigration laws in the world.

Good luck though.

[sarisataka]

15. This says it all

[NuclearDem]

17. Not overreact.

And make sure I do everything I can to make sure he loses in 2020.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

23. Same plan here

Moving isn't all that simple, especially when you have children. I don't think we're going anywhere. Whatever happens, we're just going to have to deal with it.

[Cyrano]

36. I hear you, Zing Zing. And I get it.

I'm not in your position. But I fully understand the implications of what you're saying.

Your post has struck to the heart of my OP and has made me stop and think. If I ran, would I regret it the rest of my life? If I stayed, could I find a way to deal with the horrors that would surely accompany a "Trump presidency?"

The reality of my OP indicates that I'm thinking of no one but myself.

Thank you for reminding me that we are all in this together. I only hope that I have the courage to stay here and fight the good fight. Hopefully, Hillary will crush him and it won't be necessary. But there is always that what if ...

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. The thought is too horrifying for me to consider

I have absolutely NO IDEA what I would do if Donald Trump were elected POTUS other than, maybe, to find a deep, dark hole in the ground to live in for the next 4-8 years and hope that our country is able to survive it mostly intact.

[narnian60]

28. +1

[MohRokTah]

19. I'll only burn that bridge if we ever have to cross it.

Until then, GOTV.

[safeinOhio]

20. Ive been thinking about going around and

writing down the address of every house with a trump sign in the yard along with a photo for proof.

If it happens and when the country starts to fall apart I WILL be knocking on their doors to personally blame them.

[Different Drummer]

54. +1 n/t

[kydo]

21. This is when those Doomsday Peppers type shows are good. Until they start the forced labor camps

Off the grid and live in the wilderness.

Oddly, me and the hubby were having this same chat last week. But it was more along the lines of "What if the country's worst nightmare came to be and the don of cheeto won? What would happen first, a world war or a civil war or would it be the utter collapse of our country then civil war with whats left?"

We both agreed, the don of cheeto would say something dumb, and sarcastic, that he didn't mean. Which would start a war. All the poor and people of any color would be forced to fight it. Sending immigrants out of our country would cease. We would need the labor. Instead of being deported, they would end up in forced labor camps. Not soon there-after a point would come that both Muslims and Mexicans would be rounded up, no matter if they are citizens or not, and also be sent to labor camps. You know the war effort.

Then I reminded my hubby that I along with his kids, would be among the people sent to labor camps as I am half Mexican. He would be ok, he is pure white.


That's a pretty glum future. So we better get out and vote! I don't want to end up in a forced labor camp!

[Cyrano]

38. Who ever thought we'd be faced with a possible horror like Trump?

The consequences of this man becoming president are too horrible to contemplate. And that turns my fear to our fellow citizens who may show up at the polls and vote for him. Who could ever have imagined that there was so much bigotry/hatred, and pure unadulterated ignorance among us?

[steve2470]

22. move to Canada nt

[Blue_Tires]

24. I have a mental list of people that

I'd personally hold responsible in the event we got stuck with President Trump...

[Bucky]

58. What would you do to "hold people responsible"?

Seriously, wouldn't it make more sense to get your "I told you so's" ready? And then gradually move them toward "Come join me in getting rid of this walking disaster" next.

[unblock]

26. go long deep out-of-the-money index puts

[onecaliberal]

27. We will try to get out of the country.

[dgibby]

29. I keep wondering if my 3rd and 4th Canadian

paternal grandmothers would qualify me for dual citizenship. If so, I'd be tempted to move to Canada.

[guillaumeb]

31. No.

But if you have a job, or resources, and are fluent in English or French, you can apply for a work visa with eventual citizenship.

[dgibby]

72. I was afraid of that!

Thanks for the info. I'm retired military, so have resources, including health care (thank God). English is my native language, so no problem there. One more question if you don't mind. Could I bring my animals with me?

[guillaumeb]

74. Pets are allowed with proof of vaccination.

But when Trump loses this idea of immigration might ease.

[guillaumeb]

30. I was nervn 2008 and less so in 2012.

It worked out.

2016 will also work out for HRC because she will be the first woman President, and for Trump, who will have a new reality show.

[sarcasmo]

32. Keep my papers handy.

[GWC58]

33. ITS TOO HORRIBLE TO CONTEMPLATE!!

[misterhighwasted]

34. The only way Trump gets to be President will be if Hillary's win is contested & it goes all the way

...thru a deadlocked SCourt and Speaker Ryan casts the final vote between Clinton & Trump.

A path which could happen without Pres Obama's choice to replace Scalia's chair.

Thing is, if there's a path to getting TrumpnPence to the Whitehouse..the Repubs will create the narrative to make it happen.
Too much is at stake to simply expect anything else from them

[gratuitous]

35. Set the alarm

Because anyone who thinks Trump will be the next president of the United States is dreaming.

[misterhighwasted]

37. Thank you

[Buckeye_Democrat]

39. I'd give up.

Items needed: Gas-powered motor, adult diaper, body bag, rented small storage unit.

Enter storage unit with motor inside. Close door. Put on diaper. Start up motor. Climb into body bag with only head exposed. Wait for sleep and what follows.

[Lancero]

40. I'd suguest that some of you call this number...

1-800-273-8255

For those of you who are jokingly saying you'll commit suicide, grow the fuck up. Suicide is something that claims countless lives every year, and your jokes about committing suicide are a slap to the face for anyone who has had friends or family members commit suicide.

Actually, call that number anyway and ask if suicide is a joking matter. I'm sure they'll give you a far better explanation for why you're immature brats than I could.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

41. Joke?

Whatever.

EDIT: I'm sorry that you lost family members who were loved. Not an issue for me.

[Lee-Lee]

42. Start the next day focusing on state and local races up in a year and in 2

And go from there.

That's the only productive response.

[SticksnStones]

43. Even if, dog forbid, Trump finds a way to be declared the winner ...

The republicans will move to impeach him immediately. they know he's an uncontrollable loose cannon. Pence would be a puppet president. I'd bet the republican powers that be have already had the back room conversation with Pence. They'll roll it out as a gesture to heal the nation after a tumultuous campaigning season.

But this will never happen. She's winning the electoral college in state by state polls.

Hillary Clinton will be our next president.

[maryellen99]

44. In all seriousness prepare for nuclear war if Trump wins

[Buckeye_Democrat]

48. Yep.

I consider it inevitable if he's elected.

[maryellen99]

50. Yes and the ignorant Trumpies

Think it won't be a problem due to their ignorance about fallout.

[bigwillq]

45. No plans to celebrate or leave or anything like that

No matter who wins.

I never celebrate IRL, even when the folks I voted for win. And I never do anything drastic IRL when the folks I didn't vote for or don't like win.

Democracy.

The country will survive, no matter who wins or loses. It always has.

I doubt Trump will win. If he does, that's democracy. I only get one vote. I can't really control or change the outcome, so I tend not to worry too much about it.

[Philly-Union-Man]

46. I'll hope he's as successful at helping everyone as he claims he will be.

He'll be the President. We need him to be good at the job. We need him to be successful. I'll hope that he will be even knowing that he probably won't. The fact is, no one really knows what this goof will do if he should win. There are several possibilities but only one is good. He could take the job as a vanity position and leave all of the Presidenting to Mike Pence. Which would be an utter disaster. He could actually attempt to do the job with his cockamamie ideas and influence from the very worst people in the country. Which would also be an utter disaster. Or he could do the job and revert to his original ideas which are really quite liberal. He's the kind a guy who doesn't really give a shit what anybody thinks. He'll just do what he wants to do regardless of whether the party likes it or not. This is the least likely scenario but probably the best scenario we can hope for.

Chances are he'll be an absolute lunatic and embarrassment worse than Bush ever was and has a good chance of getting us all killed over a Twitter rant or offhand insult. But I'll give him a chance at first. What other choice is there?

[GreenEyedLefty]

47. I don't know.

Retreat to the woods?

If (when!) Hillary wins, breathe a sigh of relief and work to help her as much as possible.

[Loge23]

51. Probably leave

I've been thinking about leaving the U.S. for some time now anyway.
If this guy wins, it validates the very worst possibility: that this country is hopelessly screwed and over populated by ignorant, nationalist, fascist wanna-bes.
The fact is, the U.S. isn't all that great. Many other countries have better infrastructure, a better social structure, and a much more sensible way of living day-to-day. Even developing countries in Central and South America have areas where many expats live and live well.

I have been researching places to go but I have yet to hit a nerve with any of them. If our worst nightmare comes true, I will embark on trips to personally visit the sites I am considering: Panama, Spain, and Portugal are currently my top picks.

My wife is recently retired and I'm next in a few more months, we're free to go and fortunate enough to be able to leave. My father's lineage goes back to the 17th C in this country, but all good things (was it ever really good?) come to an end.

It's truly disgusting these day with the media frenzy for Trump and the false narrative that has been painted upon Hillary - and make no mistake about that, she is in deep trouble this election - she'll be lucky to pull it off, running against an absolutely deplorable human specimen. The bullshit about a freakin' football player who will or will not stand for the goddamn national anthem is beyond inane, but that's America. Guess I'm just not for these times in this America.

[mnhtnbb]

66. My husband and I had a very long discussion about this tonight at dinner.

In 2005--in response to a second term for Bush--we seriously looked in to leaving the US and actually bought property in a development by Americans in Panama that was under construction/
A nightmare ensued--financial problems, labor problems, legal problems--so be careful about investing in anything that isn't already built. (We did eventually get our money back.)

I am extremely anxious that so many people in this country are planning to vote for Trump. I agree with your assessment that they are ignorant, nationalist, fascist wanna-bes. Ignorant, racist, misogynistic bigots. And it scares me that Trump has 'normalized' their white supremacy. And they have guns. Scares the crap out of me.

Now, though, it's 2016 and I don't have the patience or energy to deal with moving to another country at our ages (me 65, hubby 74) I've told my husband Kauai would fill the bill for me: I would not want to be on the mainland US if Trump wins.

[Still In Wisconsin]

52. Wait for him to nuke somebody...then we probably all fry. n/t

[Ilsa]

53. Store a lot of food items

and other stuff to get ready for the great depression trump will cause when he wrecks our debt and economy.

[roamer65]

55. Not tellin. N/t

[Bucky]

57. Don't move away. Dig in and fight the good fight.

Man, saying you'll move out of the country if Trump wins is lame. Sorry, no. Stay and fight. Stay and raise hell. I have a friend who's parents fled Germany in the early 30s. They moved to France. There's an object lesson there.

[BYJ439]

60. I'll be checking out the Canadian immigration website

There's absolutely no way I'll be able to handle 4-8 years of that orange turd as head of state. Even 1 day under Trump would be hard to stomach. I'm just hoping that Don gets his ass handled to him in the debates, and support for him plummets afterwards.

[DesertRat]

68. Seriously now.

You're going to move to Canada if Trump wins? What are you doing to help ensure that Clinton wins?

[Nevernose]

61. We could help build his wall

And then stay on the Mexican side of it.

Seriously, we'll sell most of our tangibles, rent out the house, and work and/or teach overseas for four years. At least that's my preference. As my wife points out: we have privilege. My family will be just fine under President Trump. We're white, middle-class, well-educated, securely employed. It's the rest of America I'm fighting for.

[forgotmylogin]

63. Trump would quit at about the 14-month mark.

He will implode or get bored and tired of the schedule. Pence will have been doing the work anyway. He will cite that his business is more important than the presidency, or he will experience a crush of lawsuits and scandals. He won't make enough money as President to make it worthwhile. He'll start his network and lean heavy on "I've experienced the presidency so I know how Washington works."

[ileus]

64. We go to work, we come home.

Same thing we've been doing all along.

[Saphire]

69. ^^this. Checks and balances are there for a reason.

[madokie]

65. Working our asses off

ensuring he gets noting of his bullshit passed. It won't take long for the good people of this country to see just what a jack ass he and his ilk are. Thats where our power to stop him will come from
No way no how must we allow tRump to destroy what vestiges of a democracy we have left

[Arazi]

67. Stop this shit. She's got this. She's going to win by epic margins

[Koch Ebola]

70. Hillary will win, however.....

Trump will demand a recount.

[yuiyoshida]

71. I WILL BE DEPORTED to CHINA... part of his anti immigration plan

"All y'all slants are goin back ta Chiner! Trump will make it happen!"

[shockey80]

73. If trump wins

Pray.

[dembotoz]

75. I am a known liberal in a red area

Would imagine I would have to take the occasional death threats more seriously
Would imagine i would better understand the joy of driving while black..
I have pretty much isolated my income from my politics.continue that effort. Make sure any work I do is even squeakier clean.
Be more careful about sites I visit on the internet... actually my surfing is pretty vanilla now anyway..

Hard to go to far underground cause being dem county chair matter of public record...

[Warpy]

76. That ignorant, belligerent blowhard will likely get the US into a world war.

The US will not win this one.

Or we'll get lucky and the military will remove him. We will not like military rule.

[AngryAmish]

77. I have a second home overseas

Actually, I am pretty retired at this point. My children will never want and I got around 35 to 40 years left. So if Trump wins I have options.

[yellowcanine]

78. Would definitely be time for this.....

https://www.searchlock.com/mirror/p?e=1&h=K0oGS/u8+r9LgjFiB30P0c2MK/urhFbBlMlORcL/fUW4xjTPX0zYOmGUlGePFBrm2W1rj8AxMhBet3KcUrYBUos6JYItaoOHPfTHdr72RiLQ7+Ms3wFG0OBorQT1gBUG&u=

[Bluzmann57]

79. I own a house in the Philippines

I was fully prepared to go there if trump gets (s)elected, but with that crazy bastard Duterte in charge, that may not be a good option. I figure my wife and kid will be deported so I may as well go with 'em. If only the Philippines had a stable leader...

[chknltl]

81. Let history be your example:

History: who was blamed when Gore lost to Bush? Yeah that's what "we, (DU), will do" in the unlikely event of a Trump win.

No, not the answer you were seeking but definately the one that came to my mind. Make no mistake about it, (middle) fingers will be pointed both ways but that's what would happen.

No worries though, I have every confidence Trump will lose in a landslide.