The polls are not tied

[malaise]

That's made up shit

[patsimp]

1. it's complete made up shit from the republican media and the wimps on the CNN (anderson cooper)

[Nictuku]

2. The media makes more $$ when it is a close race

... More people tune in... and it is all about the $$

I think they might be misreading the public though. I don't know about anyone else, but I am sick to death of turning on the TV and having to hear Trump, talking heads talking about Trump, polls about Trump. Sick to death of it all.

I don't remember an election season ever going on over a year. Seems like forever. And real news is no longer covered. I guess that is why I don't watch much TV these days.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

3. OMG, but ABC News just opened with that! Could they be mistaken?

[malaise]

6. LOL - I turned them off

The corporate media is pushing the racist con artist.
Well most of their operations operate the same way.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

8. I switched to Lester Holt on NBC. They opened with a solved kidnap case.

[malaise]

10. I switched to ESPN

the US Open is less stressful than the corporate news.

[betsuni]

4. They keep saying "dead heat," then scold Clinton for "coasting."

No coasting! Then accuse her of "making everything about Trump."

[roamer65]

5. National polls don't matter, folks.

We elect a president by states. Concentrate on your state's polls and make things happen!

[Beartracks]

16. They matter in the impression they give to undecideds.

If you give any credence to the ability (and/or desire) of the media to shape election outcomes by molding public opinion, then you must acknowledge that these polls matter, because the media will either highlight or downplay the results as they deem necessary.

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[Jim Dandy]

7. Cable news networks cater to their main audience

Most of whom are 50+ year old white males. I don't watch those things.

[Blue Idaho]

24. 1.5% of Americans watch peak time cable news...

Cable news is failing America and Americans know that.

[Jim Dandy]

31. Niche infotainment

Divorced from reality.

[maryellen99]

9. The only thing that worries me is the silent white vote

The ones who are Trump voters but won't say so due to not wanting to be called a racist and other repercussions.

[malchickiwick]

11. Agreed, they make this shit up for viewers, but might it not help us GOTV?

Could be a good thing if it convinces people to turn out; could be that the cravenness of the corporate networks may give us that landslide we all want. Jus' sayin'

[sarae]

26. You're right...

God, I hope you're right!!! A landslide would be a dream come true.

[nolabels]

12. I get the feeling polling service companies are going to be farther off the mark than ever before

Imagine if politicians and all the rest those that use polling had recalculate how it's to be done.

The cell phone might revolutionize politics in its wake also

[pansypoo53219]

13. butbutbut its good for RATINGS and speculation. news is so YESTERDAY.

[Doctor Jack]

14. Na, not tied. She is probably up by about 5.5 points

But the media will latch onto any poll that shows a tie because it means higher ratings. Its likely the prolonged convention bounce wearing off a bit but at the same time, her lead seems to be stabilizing. 538 said they are seeing signs that any gains trump has made are slowing down. We will know more by the end of the week. If Clinton is still up by over 5 points by friday, no biggie. If it somehow drops to a 2 or 3 point average then its time to breakout the heartburn medication. I wouldn't bet on much more tightening but the next 3 or 4 days will be critical to see the trajectory of the race.

[Hortensis]

30. Good post, thanks. But whatever happens, Trump can't win.

[ailsagirl]

15. Nate Silver wrote an article entitled, "Clinton's lead keeps shrinking"-- WTF?????

I didn't have time to read it but I was shocked.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-clintons-lead-keeps-shrinking/

[Egnever]

18. Still calls it at 70-30 Clinton

[ailsagirl]

19. Did you read the article?

[Egnever]

20. Yup

[ailsagirl]

21. I'm glad-- thanks

I had always considered NS to be above the partisan BS, but who knows?

[Egnever]

22. The money quote

The clearest pattern is simply that Trump has regained ground since Clinton’s post-convention peak. He now has a 31 percent chance of winning the election according to our polls-only model, and a 33 percent chance according to polls-plus. For a deeper look, let’s run through our set of 10 framing questions about the election1 in light of the most recent polling:

[LenaBaby61]

29. Yeah, now Nate is saying Hillary's lead is shrinking....

I'm staying with Sam Wang now excursively. May check in at Nate's occasionally when I start looking at the polls a bit more in a few weeks.

I mean really, ORC polled 786 people for a NATIONWIDE poll NOW with tRump with a +2 lead while under sampling Democrats and over-sampling Republicans. Hillary must legitimately have about a +5 or +6 point lead ON tRump nationwide. Doesn't mean we rest on our laurels or stop working and getting out the vote like she really IS down by +10 points which ORC just might manufacture if this type of unscrupulous polling keeps up from them and CNN who wants a "horse race" so they can make ad $$$$$

I'm sorry but 786 people were polled for a nationwide poll for the presidential race?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. They said it was neck and neck with McCain and Romney too.

[Doctor Jack]

27. This is true

Find video of MSNBC on election night 2008 and for the first 2 hours they talked about how it could go either way that night. Then obama won by 9.5 million votes.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

35. From 4 years ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002833439#post15

[MoonRiver]

23. Agree

Been watching History Channel, Animal Planet and ID. Much better.

[marble falls]

25. The press is determined to gin up a horse race even if its not real.

[still_one]

28. The national polls are not accurate at all. Their sampling is flawed. They under estimate some

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demographics, and over estimate others. They also do not correctly factor in the electoral college reality

As long as we get out the vote, we will win by a large margin

[LenaBaby61]

32. Great post....

I'm tapped out for this month already in terms of donating, and I'm not breaking my budget, but plan to do some phone banking starting next week and up until late October then I'll have to stop to have some much necessary oral surgery

[still_one]

33. The phone banking is important actually. Sorry about the surgery. Hope recovery

is very quick, and painless. Take care

[LenaBaby61]

34. Thank you....

For the positive health wishes...Much appreciated