Hillary's deplorable trump supporters comments

[Proud liberal 80]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-basket-of-deplorables/index.html

But the problem is that it is actually true. The people at his rallies are a bunch of hateful birthers. They constantly chant "lock her up". They like when trump says hateful things. But now the media will focus on this and kill her for it. The way they are going to focus on this, I wish they would focus on all the hateful things Trump actually says and tweets.

[complain jane]

1. Not at all.

He has huge support among white supremacists and other ugly factions of the electorate. He can't disavow them because it's true, and she's absolutely right. She should bring this up every chance she gets to reveal his base for what it is.

[Proud liberal 80]

2. We all know that his supporters are

A bunch of hateful racists. But the media and the Republicans are going to spin her words. They are going to say that she is putting down millions of hardworking Americans

The way that she worded it will get twisted.

[complain jane]

3. I don't think the MSM will

but the fringe nut jobs like Breitbart will, and Trump will too. And his supporters will eat it up. But she wasn't going to win them over anyway, so she might as well hold them up as a snapshot of the kind of people who support him as a divisive wedge between them and the undecided voter.

And there are a lot of undecided voters right now.

[agnostic102]

5. unf

unfortenatly cnn this morning was showing the clip over and over agian. The media is going to make much more money off ratings if this race was closer then if it was a cake walk for clinton.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. Yep

Having heard it/seen it on MSNBC.

She's right. They are deplorable. Racist, sexist, xenophobic.

They followed with Trumps statement about her "getting away with shooting blah blah"

For whatever it's worth - that man's supporters hate my guts and she just called them out on it.

Trump supporters are not going to vote for her this close to the election. If that hurt their feelings - fuck them.

[complain jane]

25. And a fun thing about all this is that

at least online, it backs people into a corner when they are called out on their sexism. They respond that they aren't sexist at all, they hate her because of ____________ and _______________ etc. Which turns out to be tinfoil-hat nuttery, and then the fun begins in taking apart their lunacy and exposing it for what it is. Sexism.

[JustAnotherGen]

65. Another yep

I'm going to go out on a limb -

It's okay to be an awful American.

It's also okay for me to call them out. And for HRC to do so as well.

I'm blind this election due in part to what a vile human being Trump is.

So HRC can say whatever she wants and I will support her.

[BeyondGeography]

4. That could have been said a hell of a lot better

Directly insulting your opponent's supporters is not the way to go. Trump brings out the worst in people. Start there. Basket of deplorables? Now she has to explain why she still wants to be their President, too.

Really inept. Sorry.

[complain jane]

6. But they hate her anyway

and she wasn't going to win them over, no matter what she did. And they'd pile on her no matter what she did, too.

Besides, she's right.

[BeyondGeography]

10. In other words, she gains nothing

And she just gave a lot of Trump supporters an extra reason to get their butts to the polls in November.

[Sherman A1]

42. Precisely

This was not a good idea.

[Proud liberal 80]

16. Yes she is right and they hate her

And will not vote for her anyway. That isn't the problem, the problem is that this what the MSM will now focus on for a good week.

She is better off saying that she stands by her comments based off the hateful rhetoric that Trump constantly spews. And leave it at that, but she will eventually take back her comments or say something that will get twisted again

[karynnj]

43. It likely is true a huge percent of Trump voters would never vote for her

But where does this put a Trump supporter's sister, wife, friend etc who is uncertain about Trump for all the reasons anyone could list. Here, she is not speaking of Trump she, not someone supporting her on the Internet or even someone associated with her campaign, is attacking that person's loved one. I don't get why she did not just say accurately that they were completely unwinnable ... even if she were the only candidate.

Think back, even the loathsome Bush and Cheney never said SUPPORTERS of Senator Kerry were deplorables or anything similar ... in fact, they left it to people they had a distance from to call Kerry very negative things.

This is HRC sinking to Trump's level in the heat of a very nasty campaign. While understandable, this is beneath her. I hope she personally already regrets this and will apologize for it. Note that even with all the garbage thrown at our last two nominees and their wives, I seriously can not see either saying anything remotely like this.

Remember HRC needs to improve her likability, this doesn't do it.

[Proud liberal 80]

9. Exactly

Although true, her wording was terrible. She could have said something like "Trump says a lot of hateful things and is attracting support from people who agree with him"

[Funtatlaguy]

11. True, but....

This story wont get as much traction now as it might normally because of these bigger stories:
Russian Syrian temp ceasefire deal
North Korea Nukes
Trump interview with Larry King on Russian tv

[Proud liberal 80]

13. I wish that was true but

Do you know our media?

[Funtatlaguy]

18. Yeah, I know.

Maybe wishful thinking.
At least the second half of her statement was better when she described the other half of Trumos supporters. That is what her surrogates will play up.
And, we all know that her full statement was actually right on target.

[George II]

74. Did you see the entire quote and context?

[riversedge]

7. Why use that phase as a subject line?

It does not feel right to use that line on Hillary.

[complain jane]

8. I agree, pretty pessimistic.

[Proud liberal 80]

12. Because I have a feeling that

Is what the MSM is going to label it. I can see Wolf Blitzer now. It Might be pessimistic, but we might want to know what is about to come from the media

[riversedge]

40. Well, IMHO, we don't have to help Wolf

[Kingofalldems]

46. You brought it up.

[JustAnotherGen]

24. I see upthread

The very concerned seem to think this will mobilize them to the polls.

Good. I welcome their vote.

I'm voting too and I applaud the statement.


They know they are all of those things and are proud of it.

Let them wave their flag and vote.

[NewHampshiriteGuy]

14. Guess what?

People who support a candidate who wants to block all Muslim immigrants, people who support a candidate who questioned the legitimacy of the current sitting POTUS' citizenship for years, people who are fine with their candidate retweeting white supremacist groups and not disavowing support from the alt-right, people who shout "lock-her-up" at rallies and support a candidate who encouraged "second amendment people" to "do something" about Hillary Clinton if she's elected...

Those people...

Are pretty f#cking deplorable if you ask me.

I give Hillary props for being brave enough to call them out when the spineless media pretends that any of this is normal or acceptable in this country.

47% moment my ass!

[complain jane]

15. Agreed. n/t

[Proud liberal 80]

17. I agree with your assessment

That his supporters are deplorable, but following politics for a long time I know how the MSM operates. Especially when it comes to the Clintons.

[NewHampshiriteGuy]

19. In that case...

Folks like us need to be out there on social media...not just DU...vocally supporting her comments and not letting the vocal far-right basement dwellers and the mouth breathing MSM to push this narrative unanswered...

Concern not countered by action is energy wasted and the worst form of complacency.

[complain jane]

22. +1000

I had been sitting around whining that I couldn't get the campaign to respond to my inquiries about how to help. Then it dawned on me that simply talking to people is the biggest help there is. I can't believe how much good it does, and how many people simply listen to their ill-informed friends' misinformation. Pressing them on why they support Trump and supplying reputable sources for pro-Clinton information when they realize they can't explain their support for him (or disdain for her) has done so much.

[karynnj]

51. I know very few people who would even consider voting for Trump

The few I know are living in communities where many will. I will not bring this comment up to them as I have bright some of the worst Trump ones. If it becomes an issue, I will suggest it was said in the heat of a nasty campaign and she is human.

We need to win people, who reject Trump because he is odious. Many are people who were or are Republican and already had a negative opinion of HRC. ( one was hoping that if, heaven forbid, Trump became the nominee, we elected Bernie. She actually said she could vote for him against Trump. Getting her to HRC is harder. This doesn't help.)

I can not defend it. If I did, I think I lose all credibility and will lose whatever possible influence I have.

[chelsea0011]

28. And when did Trump not become the racist candidate?

I fell out of my chair when I saw this on the news cycle this AM. Trump has made mainstream racism OK. The KKK supports him. The haters have the candidate they have waited for. And Hillary calling out HALF of them is now an issue? Bring it on. I would double down if I were Hillary.

[Proud liberal 80]

32. Yes

Now that she has said it, she should double down and elaborate.

[sarae]

53. I agree...

double down! Dems should stop apologizing for treating racists with kid gloves. They should enjoy it – don't they hate it when people are "too P.C."?!

[sarae]

45. YES

Maybe she should start doing like Trump and doubling down on her statements. Can you imagine what would happen if she did that? I'm sick of the media normalizing Trump and his disgusting supporters.

[karynnj]

47. No, the candidate can let YOU say this, she should not.

This may hurt because it will be seen as thinking almost a fourth of the country is deplorable. Talk about us vs them and then taking it a step further.

I bet it further hurts likability and is possibly redefined as elitist or entitlement as some define it as classist.

Needless to say Trump says worse things every day and, unlike her, is not remotely close to being fit to be President. I can imagine it is really hard being essentially on tape 24/7, but this is really not good, even if I am wrong and there is no political cost.

[complain jane]

20. The fact that at least half his base is deplorable

isn't new news. It's been said in the media repeatedly. It's been reported already that he has retweeted white supremacists, pretended to be unfamiliar with David Duke as a ploy to not have to disavow them and he has nuts for supporters. He's praised Putin FFS. This isn't brand new, it's not like Hillary suddenly blurted this out from left field.

I get that it will get traction, I understand. Hopefully she'll stand behind her comments, elaborate on them, and drive them home.

[Proud liberal 80]

23. I agree

hopefully she'll stand behind her comments, elaborate on them, and drive them home.

I agree, now is not the time to get the typical Clinton speak, like "I short circuited"

[JustAnotherGen]

26. She needs to reload

Not retreat or soothe ruffled feathers. I've followed politics and the media for a long time too. First vote was for Clinton/Gore.

Being wimps about being right does not work.

[complain jane]

27. "Typical Clinton speak"?

Interesting.

[Proud liberal 80]

30. What I mean by typical speak

Is that when the media questions them about a "controversy", instead of being firm and putting it to rest, they use words and jargon that continues the controversy.

[Kingofalldems]

52. That's a right wing talking point.

[malaise]

29. This is what she said

"To just be grossly generalistic, you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables," Clinton said. "Right? Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it."

[complain jane]

31. I have no problem with what she said.

She prefaced it well and stated that she she didn't mean all of his supporters and what she said has been well documented on social media and in the MSM.

[malaise]

33. +1,000

and she left out several other adjectives I might have added.

[oberliner]

35. She left out racist?

That's the first adjective she used.

[malaise]

36. and we both know it

corrected

[sarae]

48. She was completely wrong in what she said.

She should have said, ""To just be grossly generalistic, you can put ALL of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables."

[complain jane]

54. LOL n/t

[JoePhilly]

37. She nailed it.

[malaise]

39. Precisely

[oberliner]

34. You aren't allowed to say this

For some reason, calling racists racists gets them very angry.

[saltpoint]

38. She may have done herself a big

favor. Trump's demographic is significantly made up of folks who behave deplorably, who shout "Build the Wall" and "Lock Her Up" at Trump rallies -- at the deliberate prompting of their candidate.

Those foot-stomping fools were not going to vote for Hillary Clinton in the first place. But by suggesting they be placed in a basket for behaving deplorably, she allowed herself the moral high ground. Trump foot-stompers do not exhibit acceptable adult behavior. She's right on points alone but may have set into motion an awareness that he is leading an angry mob of brainless hotheads.

The favor part may come in increased voter turnout by those in the many demographic voting groups Trump has alienated. Hillary can make this argument anyplace she steps off a plane now. And her campaign has ample footage to run ads to back her up. If Trump supporters cannot justify their conduct, they own 'deplorable.'

[Warren DeMontague]

41. thank you for your concern

however, I think the only people flipping out about this are the very people she's talking about. Stuck pigs squeal.

He's spent the past 6 months playing footsie with and wink-wink-nudging every neo-nazi wack-a-doo in the country, and no one is supposed to notice?

[sarae]

49. It's annoying because

the people who will raise the biggest stink about this (Trump's racist, sexist, islamophobic, and homophobic supporters) are the ones who always accuse liberals of being "too P.C." Biggest bunch of hypocrites I've ever seen.

What I've learned from this election is that it's ok to call someone horrible names if they're not white (Mexicans are "rapists", Muslims are "terrorists", and you have to treat women like "shit"), but it's really crossing the line to identify someone as racist, misogynist or a xenophobe. I guess it's only ok to call someone a slur if they're not white.

[Warren DeMontague]

63. you make an excellent point.

[JNelson6563]

44. Your concern is duly noted.

[beachbum bob]

50. great move by hillary...make it clear who trump is and what the bulk of his supporters are....

we democrats have no excuse not to get out and vote in a democratic congress and a hillary landslide

[saltpoint]

60. I think it's the Trump camp who owes the apology.

Hillary Clinton is right about their exhibiting deplorable conduct. I hope she sticks to her guns and doesn't stop with this frame of reference through Election Day.

[forthemiddle]

62. Of course Trump owes an apology

He owes the American electorate a huge apology for even being in the race, and pulling it down to such a deplorable level, but that doesn't mean the other candidate needs to sink to that level with him!

This whole election is an embarrassment. When do we actually talk policies? Why are the major candidates (and now that includes both of them) acting like middle school bullies to people that don't agree with them?

What has our society come to? I don't think it is bad to point out deplorable comments, and I won't be a cheerleader for such behavior, no matter who does it!!

Once again, rightly or wrongly, she just insulted 25% of the electorate. That is just wrong.

I just want a "Presidential" candidate, not a WWF sideshow.

[saltpoint]

64. I don't consider her comment to be

an insult. It's better journalism than the mainstream media, for one thing.

She spoke as a calculated risk that her words would create a characterization of the Trump campaign by defining its supporters. I think that's a strategic move in an election where the Republican ticket is comprised of two deeply bigoted men.

[forthemiddle]

67. OK we will agree to disagree

Peace!
And it goes without saying, that this will not change my vote anyway, so I don't probably shouldn't worry about it anyway.

Honestly, I am just sick of this election that has not once centered on policy, and I think that both candidates are sinking to a level that will change the American landscape forever, and I hate it.

All I wish for, is two adults debating real issues that effect the American populace.

When I think back to how unified we all were 15 years ago, and see the discord that has devolved since that time I hate it.
We are all Americans, and in November we will elect ONE President, for all of us, and I think personal attacks should be left up to surrogates, and not the one that will be the next Leader of the Free World.

She is going to be that person, and so far she has acted like it, I just disagree with this new tone, and I hope she gets away from it ASAP!

[Wednesdays]

78. Pearl clutcher number six for the day

Gotta thank Hillary for making my task much easier.

[RBInMaine]

69. Please, enough of the jelly spined retreatist attitude. She should stand by it and tie it to Trump.

[Tanuki]

56. Kellyanne Conway and others have been trying to moderate Trump's image, and he has been making some

statements (mostly in front of white audiences) designed to downplay his repugnance make himself more palatable to the slightly less deplorables. As some analysts have said, moderate Republicans who do not want to see themselves as racists or general morons might vote for this Trump 2.0 version. I am glad Hillary laid it out in no uncertain terms and I will be happy to embrace her strong characterization of Trump's base. She is absolutely correct and I hope she will not back down from this.

[complain jane]

59. Me too.

And I agree about Trump appearing to appeal to African American voters to make his less-deplorable voters feel like they're not actually voting for a racist - not to actually appeal to those voters. Slimebag.

[MadCrow]

57. Telling it like it is

How come the Donald can get by "telling it like it is", but Hillary is excoriated by the media?

[Sunlei]

58. "basket of deplorables” A good word for trumps kkk, nazi salute & hang the bitch people to learn.

de·plor·a·ble


/dəˈplôrəb(ə l/


adjective

adjective: deplorable




deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"


synonyms: disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable, unworthy, inexcusable, unpardonable, unforgivable; More
reprehensible, despicable, abominable, contemptible, execrable, heinous, beyond the pale


"your conduct is deplorable"



antonyms: admirable



•shockingly bad in quality.
"her spelling was deplorable"


synonyms: lamentable, regrettable, unfortunate, wretched, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, diabolical; More

[Iliyah]

61. The corporate media is deplorable as well

T-rump can speak from his ass and the corporate media kisses it. Has T-rump apologized yet on what he's said about Muslims, Latinos, and others?

What HRC said was fact. POC and quite a few Whites know exactly what she said and agree with it. Votes, you damn straight which will be in favor of HRC. Most Americans do not want to go back to "Jim Crow" or even worse.

Corporate media has been covering up for Right Wingers for years, ENOUGH.

[d_b]

66. Not even close to the same thing

Romney basically said that half the country is a bunch of lazy shitheads who will vote for Obama because they want a handout - total bullshit.


Half (at least) of trump voters ARE racist, sexist dipshits. And everyone knows it - including trump supporters and the msm.

[wishstar]

68. I'll bet NBC's Katy Tur and other reporters who attend his rallies agree with Clinton

Katy Tur made the point last night discussing Donald Trump's racism stating that he never corrects the extreme rhetoric and slanders shouted out by his supporters at the rallies, but encourages them.

[onecaliberal]

70. Really? Uhm no! NONE of those shit for brains would ever for for her anyway.

Try listening to the shit they say. That orange piece of shit calls her crooked. Fuck them

[MFM008]

71. Maggots

Would have been better.

[blogslut]

72. There's going to be a lot of this among the fans of Cheeto Jesus

[lindysalsagal]

73. "Deplorable" doesn't even approach "lying, theiving, illegal, disastrous"

and all the contemptable things he accuses her of. They all say on their shirts, "Indict Hillary."

So, I think it was a good move.

He's alot worse than deplorable. So are his supporters.

[Lsantos04]

75. HRC is spot on with her assessments

Though I must add that she went too easy on Trump's supporters. Pretty much all of them are a bunch of racist morons, at least from my personal experiences.

[gwheezie]

76. She's not going to win over the racists but

I was talking to 2 former lean trump people today
Neither one had trump as their top 5 choices and had misgivings about him but really bought the crooked Hillary spin until she started bringing up the alt right. Yes these 2 are bigots but when they found out finally about the antisemites backing trump it was one group too far. I helped a little by showing them a few sites and they really had no idea the Klan was really backing trump, they watch fox and hadn't heard that this wasn't just some rogue racist but large swaths of racists. They are no longer going to vote for trump.

[redstatebluegirl]

77. The T-shirts they buy and wear are awful too!