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brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:34 AM Sep 2016

Dolphins may have a spoken language, new research suggests

CNN:

A conversation between dolphins may have been recorded by scientists for the first time, a Russian researcher claims.

Two adult Black Sea bottlenose dolphins, named Yasha and Yana, didn't interrupt each other during an interaction taped by scientists and may have formed words and sentences with a series of pulses, Vyacheslav Ryabov says in a new paper.

"The (pulse) exchanges reminds us of an exchange with sentences between two people," Ryabov told CNN.

Joshua Smith, a research fellow at Murdoch University Cetacean Research Unit, says there will need to be more research before scientists can be sure whether dolphins are chatting.
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Dolphins may have a spoken language, new research suggests (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
Fascinating forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #1
All But The "Water" ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #2
There's got to be a big mess of cetacean words describing water conditions. hunter Sep 2016 #4
Same Is True Of Air ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #6
My line of thinking was that sonar is a primary sense for them... hunter Sep 2016 #9
I Know Hunter ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #14
"Trump." randome Sep 2016 #3
They have a natural "Smile". Jim Beard Sep 2016 #17
Dolphins can't talk, silly. They're just punking the researchers on porpoise. pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #5
Whale, I'll be darned! closeupready Sep 2016 #7
This was researched before sarisataka Sep 2016 #8
Don't believe a word they say! MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #10
That's a no brainer, but thanks for posting! SPINDAL NEURON MoonRiver Sep 2016 #11
Dolphins are the second smartest species on earth GummyBearz Sep 2016 #12
Well, we know for sure that they aren't Trump surrogates on CNN Yavin4 Sep 2016 #13
Then why haven't they won a superbowl since the 70's? Glassunion Sep 2016 #15
Lack of a pass rush gratuitous Sep 2016 #16

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
1. Fascinating
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:40 AM
Sep 2016

Their mindspace is probably so different that it would be a feat to learn how they communicate.

"Water. Fish. (glee) So long. Thank you."

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
2. All But The "Water"
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:07 PM
Sep 2016

Nobody mentions "air" in a sentence. The water is just a given just like air is for us. The rest was pretty darned funny!

hunter

(38,311 posts)
4. There's got to be a big mess of cetacean words describing water conditions.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:51 PM
Sep 2016

Murky, clear, temperature and salinity stratifications (especially those affecting sonar), noise, chemical composition...

It wouldn't surprise me if some condition of "water" occurred multiple times in every conversation, maybe even as a kind of grammatical tense influencing every expression.

That might explain why the cetacean languages are so difficult for us to decipher.





ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
6. Same Is True Of Air
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:41 AM
Sep 2016

And we don't reference it in every conversation.

Like i said, i liked the post and thought it clever, but it dolphins and whales can verbally communicate, water seems an unlikely topic.

Now, the temperature of the water might come up. Just like us with "Hot/Cold/Humid/Rainy Enough For Ya?"

hunter

(38,311 posts)
9. My line of thinking was that sonar is a primary sense for them...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:42 AM
Sep 2016

... and there's some speculation their language evolved as echomimetic representations of sonar imagery.

Water conditions are not equivalent to atmospheric conditions; water conditions are much more extreme. As humans living in air we rarely encounter conditions of multiple mirages, winds we can't walk against, or noise and voices traveling hundreds or thousands of miles.


ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
14. I Know Hunter
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 12:24 PM
Sep 2016

I'm messing around with you. I actually do believe all this. Cetacean behavior is so sophisticated that it's very plausible they have a form of audible language.

I just got tickled by your first post and decided to banter with you. All good.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. "Trump."
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:14 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
11. That's a no brainer, but thanks for posting! SPINDAL NEURON
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:55 AM
Sep 2016

explains everything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindle_neuron
The monstrous countries who exploit these highly sentient beings should be shamed, boycotted and brought to task.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
12. Dolphins are the second smartest species on earth
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016

Mice being the smartest. The experiments those mice run on human scientists are astounding. 42... who would've thought

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
13. Well, we know for sure that they aren't Trump surrogates on CNN
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 12:14 PM
Sep 2016

"Two adult Black Sea bottlenose dolphins, named Yasha and Yana, didn't interrupt each other during an interaction taped by scientists"

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