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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:45 PM Sep 2016

Amy Goodman: Corporate media needs to be "Fourth Estate", not "For-The-State"

http://rabble.ca/news/2016/09/amy-goodman-corporate-media-needs-to-be-fourth-estate-not-state

(This is an interview with Amy Goodman and Neerman Shaikh of Democracy Now! about the documentary "ALL GOVERNMENTS LIE", a film about the life work of the independent journalist I.F. Stone, which just had its world premier in Toronto)


How did you get involved with this project and why is this an opportune time for people to be reminded of the legacy of I.F. Stone?

Amy Goodman: Fred Peabody, the director, just approached us and said he was interested in looking at I.F. Stone and what is happening today in independent journalism, just like I.F. Stone's Weekly that went out, before the Internet, to tens of thousands of people and gave a really inside, factual look.

Stone showed through investigative reporting his motto and what is the title of this film: all governments lie. He said to journalism students, if you're going to remember three words, all governments lie.

And that's something that corporate media has to be reminded of, that we are the "fourth estate" not "for-the-state." And especially in times of war, when the media circles the wagons around the White House, the big question for journalists is "are you a patriot?" and that means "are you going to question what your government is doing?"

That's the time you need to question the most, as we saw in the lead up to the invasion in Iraq. Years later the Times would write its mea culpa on page A10 about how they got it wrong -- the constant front page pieces by people like Judith Miller and Michael Gordon alleging weapons of mass destruction based on unnamed sources. They didn't name names in their mea culpa; I call it their "kinda culpa." But that is not enough on page A10. It has to be on the front page as many times as those articles appeared because that's what sinks the consciousness of the American people.

But forget that; they've got to get it right the first time and that means seriously questioning the most powerful country on earth when it says its going to attack another country. The U.S. bombed the cradle of civilization back to the cradle and the reverberations for Iraq and the entire Middle East, we are still feeling today. We need a media that is independent.


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Amy Goodman: Corporate media needs to be "Fourth Estate", not "For-The-State" (Original Post) Ken Burch Sep 2016 OP
More: Ken Burch Sep 2016 #1
If I only had a billion extra dollars LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #2
Clooney could chip in a quarter bil, Damon and Affleck and some of the others could do so, too. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #3
Me too! LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #5
The Media isn't for the state, they're for the corporation tenderfoot Sep 2016 #4
so very true niyad Sep 2016 #6
 

Ken Burch

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Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:47 PM
Sep 2016
Nermeen Shaikh: The thing that was very striking to me when I moved to the U.S is that the media was always framed in what they called a "bi-partisan" way. In other words, if you watched certain networks you were more likely to get the democratic perspective, the democratic party perspective. If you watched others, it was the Republican perspective. I found that very odd because what struck me the most was the fact that, irrespective of what mainstream media outlet one read, or heard, or saw, they represented the interests of the United States and its projection of power all over the world.

And, here, I'm speaking obviously of their coverage, which is what my interest was in terms of American foreign policy.

No matter where you read, what radio station you heard and what news channel you watched they spoke with one voice. There was no internal criticism of what it means for the U.S. to be a superpower, an imperial power, the most powerful country in the world. And that, I found extremely troubling because this was at a time when the sanctions had already taken place in Iraq, the war was impending, and we had already seen so much of what the Cold War had brought in so much of the world.

And now with America as the greatest power, you would think that one role of the media would be to say "what exactly are we doing in the world?" and there was none of that. So, that was where DN! came into my view.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. Clooney could chip in a quarter bil, Damon and Affleck and some of the others could do so, too.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:39 PM
Sep 2016

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I'm fine with rich people doing things like THAT.

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