Just for the Record TSA is being seen/working in other places than airports

[lookingfortruth]

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/25/tsa-warrantless-random-bag-checks-at-bus-stops-near-you/

TSA Warrantless Random Bag Checks at Bus Stops Near You- article date April 24th 2012


http://www.ktvz.com/travelgetaways/30322264/detail.html

TSA Rail, Subway Spot-Checks Raise Privacy Issues-article date Jan 28 2012

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/tsa-swarms-8000-bus-stations-public-transit-systems-yearly

Surprise! TSA Is Searching Your Car, Subway, Ferry, Bus, AND Plane- Date of Article Jun 20 2011



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I'm getting a copy of the constitution and I'm keeping it with me at all times.

[peacebird]

1. Disgusting.

[Dawson Leery]

2. Vile organization.

[Politicalboi]

3. Here too

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s16e01-reverse-cowgirl

"Sir, we have to check your asshole"

[Initech]

6. ROFL!!! "Can I check inside yo assshole??"

[MicaelS]

4. "The video is private"???

Even directly on YouTube. WTF is that about?

[texanwitch]

5. I saw this happen in Houston one Friday night when I came home from a bus trip.

This happened on the train we have running down Main street.

I almost got on the train but decided to walk downtown instead.


I was glad I did because at the next train stop several cops in black were standing around.

I watched from the street and the cops were checking bags and ID's.

[Buns_of_Fire]

12. It happened to me last Tuesday in the Orlando Greyhound terminal.

I had to go to Tampa/St. Pete, and rather than put up with the TSA bullshit to fly down, I decided to take a bus for the first time in 40+ years.

When it came time to transfer in Orlando, guess who was there, checking and wanding everyone who was transferring to Titusville, Miami, or Tampa?

They never asked for ID, but my carry-on stuff (and my person) were subjected to the typical airport crap (minus a scanner).

In the process, I lost five minature bottles of liquor (a gift to the person I was buying the RV from) and my brand-new Gerber pocketknife. Shit, if I'd known they'd be doing one of their shakedowns, I would've put the stuff in a separate suitcase and checked it. But no, the element of surprise is what it takes to catch desperate tourists like me. At an airport, I know what to expect -- but on a frigging Greyhound bus???

This is where they'll get you. Connections can be tight and if you choose to stand your ground too much, they'll be happy to leave without you. The TSA person said that, if I wanted to, the driver would hold the knife and return it to me at my destination -- and the fee is $10 for that "service." Just go over to the customer information counter, pay the ten bucks, and you'll get it back when you arrive.

I declined. Besides, who's to say that, when I arrived at my destination (which was another transfer point!) that the TSA wouldn't be there, ready to confiscate it again?

So now the TSA owes me for 3/4 a bottle of tequila poured out in Las Vegas, five liquor minatures, and a genuine Gerber Bear Grylls Boy Scout pocketknife (they missed the other Gerber keychain knife that was on my keyring). Don't think I'm not keeping track...

[HiPointDem]

13. you can't carry liquor miniatures on a bus? when did that rule come into effect?

[KansDem]

16. Then, I understand, TSA sells the confiscated items...

Or rather, the states sell the confiscated items.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=tsa+sells+confiscated+items&oq=tsa+sells+confiscated+items&aq=f&aqi=g-c1&aql=&gs_l=hp.12..0i7.86456.88628.1.91753.4.4.0.0.0.1.235.736.0j2j2.4.0...0.0.a0EhGsK-ghM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d75052a9b55837e0&biw=1920&bih=883

[wingzeroday]

7. link

http://houstonfreethinkers.com/all-news/79-local-news/2551-sheila-jackson-lee-partners-with-dhs-brings-tsa-to-houston-metro

[jp11]

8. Another reason to never leave my house.

Maybe I can start a commune where we have all our crap trucked in so we don't have to be harassed and violated by the TSA.

[woo me with science]

9. I refuse to believe it,

and I will continue to scoff, even when it's in the papers, until it's so blatantly obvious and apparent that it's impossible to deny it anymore.

Then, I will justify whatever they are doing and mock those who act like it's a big deal.

But until then, it sounds fishy to me.

[pscot]

10. If you've done nothing wrong

you have nothing to worry about. Right?

[GObamaGO]

11. The assumption by "the authorities" should never default to suspicion of wrongdoing.

[derby378]

14. If I've done nothing wrong...

...then there's no reason for the TSA to be there in the first place, right?

Right?

[treestar]

15. The Court developed this "special needs doctrine"

In a 2006 case that didn't involve VIPR, subway rider Brendan MacWade and three others sued the City of New York and its police commissioner, challenging passenger bag searches at subway entrances where people were chosen at random. MacWade lost on appeal because the court ruled the searches were legal under the Fourth Amendment's "special needs doctrine."

"The courts have said that -- because airplanes are so vulnerable to hijacking and bombs -- certain privacy interests have to be sacrificed," CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said. "I think subways are a harder call because so many people ride them and they don't fly in the sky. But because they're underground and vulnerable, the court said the searches were OK. Would it be the same at a bus station or a busy city street? The line starts to get very tough."

Administrative searches:

Administrative searches are not carried out to gather evidence as part of a criminal investigation.67 Rather, administrative searches are performed “as part of a general regulatory scheme in furtherance of an administrative purpose.”68 The Court explained that airline passenger screening is part of a general regulatory scheme, in furtherance of the administrative purpose of preventing weapons or explosives from being carried on to airplanes, in order to prevent hijackings.69

To be valid, administrative searches must meet the standard of reasonableness as required by the Fourth Amendment.70 To be reasonable, a passenger “screening search must be as limited in its intrusiveness as is consistent with satisfaction of the administrative need that justifies it.”71 “ From ARE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES IN AIRPORT PASSENGER SCREENING REASONABLE UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT? Sara Kornblatt?

People seem to love hysteria rather than looking into the facts.