General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDipshit donnies fec filings
You can look at his receipts and disbursements here. The disbursements have 2 sections. One (23) is the full expenditures the other one (28a) is the donation refunds.
http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1100920/
Cycle2016
(161 posts)Can't wait to see how much Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon make?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Link:
http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1100920/sb/23
Lots of airlines, limos and hotels, a scant few paid to himself or his properties, but something looks a little odd on page 4. Three separate payments to Private Jet Services, LLC for the exact same amount, $780,192.
PRIVATE JET SERVICES, LLC 5 BATCHELDER ROAD
SEABROOK, New Hampshire 03874
08/04/2016 TRAVEL: AIR 780192.00
PRIVATE JET SERVICES, LLC 5 BATCHELDER ROAD
SEABROOK, New Hampshire 03874
08/15/2016 TRAVEL: AIR 780192.00
PRIVATE JET SERVICES, LLC 5 BATCHELDER ROAD
SEABROOK, New Hampshire 03874
08/29/2016 TRAVEL: AIR 780192.00
Hmmm.
duncang
(1,907 posts)5 of them were in the 2,400 range every 5-7 days. Then had two in the 9,000 plus range. This one he shows up with some higher numbers.
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/06/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 10418.81
TRUMP PAYROLL CORP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/06/2016 PAYROLL 10418.81
What are the odds of the exact same dollar amount showing up? Double dipping?
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)just saying.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)See the full list I made below. And some observations on the pattern.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Billed three times in little more than three weeks? The $2.3 million expenditure seems like an awful lot of travel for one month.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I assume that the campaigns do rent their planes for the campaign season - and it could well be a recurring cost. I would assume that the size jets he (and Clinton) use is pretty expensive.
winstars
(4,220 posts)That was a real expensive day for tRump.
I mean a real expensive day for his "donors"...
I know it's been a long time, but I looked into this further since there are now issues with the 2020 campaign. It wasn't 3 payments, it was more like 9 of the same amount and millions on top of that. He paid Private Jet Services $14Million in 3 months even though all over the internet it says Hillary spent more on travel. He also paid TAG Air (A private jet firm he owns) millions in those same 3 months. That is not how much it costs to charter jets, and if he was touring the same campaign as Hillary, and was running his 737 as well, where in the world did this money go? On the FEC website you can put Private Jet Services in the search from 2015 to today and it will pull all of this up. You can't search for his 2016 campaign though, but you can search for Hillary's. Interesting.
GP6971
(31,146 posts)tfg owns a 757 not a 737.
Why is it interesting one can search for Hillary's expenditures?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Meaning he is hiding something and she is not, I think.
He stole that money, of course.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,176 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)First looking at the payroll given to him last month you notice a pattern. Every time he shows a direct payroll item there is another of the same date, same amount, but paid to either from TRUMP TOWER COMMERCIAL LLC or TRUMP PAYROLL CORP for payroll. But doesn't list who for. Looking through the filing the only time that happens is when it is for him. None of the other payroll items for individuals show duplicate amounts, dates, and multiple listings. What is happening here? Possible double dipping, accounting mistakes, plausible deniability, or random chance? A total of both show up as $51087.30. Last months fec filing iirc had the same thing going on.
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/04/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 2574.43
TRUMP TOWER COMMERCIAL LLC PO BOX 1926
HICKSVILLE, New York 11802
08/04/2016 PAYROLL 2574.43
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/06/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 10418.81
TRUMP PAYROLL CORP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/06/2016 PAYROLL 10418.81
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/11/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 2574.43
TRUMP TOWER COMMERCIAL LLC PO BOX 1926
HICKSVILLE, New York 11802
08/11/2016 PAYROLL 2574.43
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/18/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 2574.42
TRUMP TOWER COMMERCIAL LLC PO BOX 1926
HICKSVILLE, New York 11802
08/18/2016 PAYROLL 2574.42
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/20/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 7401.56
TRUMP PAYROLL CORP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/20/2016 PAYROLL 7401.56
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/25/2016 IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE MEMOS BELOW) 2574.43
TRUMP TOWER COMMERCIAL LLC PO BOX 1926
HICKSVILLE, New York 11802
08/25/2016 PAYROLL 2574.43
madokie
(51,076 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)What a fraud ! Epic!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)putey owns him. I can think of no other reason.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)that does not have memos.
what is going on there?
Is the entity flying him as an in-kind donation then accepting a payment for the in-kind donation?
Is the entity giving the in-kind donation then deducting it from taxes?
I'm just making wild guesses here?
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Private Jet Services: Flying isnt a challenge when youre an expert. By delivering integrated and innovative aviation solutions, we take care of both the big plans and the minute details, tailoring every aspect of air travel to your exacting needs. Our approach combines the exclusivity of your own jet with the flexibility of an entire fleet.
The global aviation marketplace is filled with many options and solutions. What works for one client isnt necessarily right for you, and nor should it be. Private Jet Services offers a unique consultancy approach, using over a decade of experience to handcraft individualized solutions for every client. It is a method that consistently delivers choice and value for a wide range of global clients.
Private Jet Services group grew out of a passion for flying. We started from a New Hampshire base, and flipped the standard aviation model on its head to provide a consultancy aviation approach with an inherent dedication to detail. That was back in 2003, and this personalized local approach is still a core tenet of our business. We work 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year, ever-ready to dispatch aircraft or fast-track a commercial carrier for your needs. There will always be an experienced consultant available to assist in trip planning or respond to any mission-critical situation.
================================
Found this tidbit from the founder Greg Raiff:, Feb 2013
Private Jet Services is one of the top private aviation firms in the country but remains small and local. Most of the company's 23 employees work out of the Seabrook headquarters.
Greg Raiff started the company in 2003 after meeting his wife and moving to New Hampshire.
The New Hampshire Union Leader recently asked Raiff about the secret behind the company's growth, even during the recession, and about the unique and high-profile clients the company serves.
Raiff said he would rather sell his right arm than impact the privacy of his clients, but he did provide some interesting insights.
Raiff has watched a professional sports team he has loved his whole life win a championship, and helped to arrange a salute to the airplane when it flew home. He has also flown with candidates for national office and learned about Fortune 500 company happenings before news hit the Wall Street Journal.
See more at: http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130204/NEWS02/130209733#sthash.BTN4DUSb.dpuf
duncang
(1,907 posts)This is a rental. Same date and amount billing for rent.
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/01/2016 IN-KIND: RENT (SEE MEMO BELOW) 9000.00
TRUMP PLAZA LLC 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022
08/01/2016 RENT 9000.00
duncang
(1,907 posts)The following list is donations from him to his campaign. Taken from the 17D form. The numbers seem to match the expenses/payback he received above. Including dates. He gives a contribution, receives the same amount back directly to him, and also receives the same amount back to his company. Anybody have an idea what is going on?
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: RENT (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/01/2016 9000.00
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/04/2016 2574.43
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/06/2016 10418.81
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/11/2016 2574.43
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/18/2016 2574.42
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/20/2016 7401.56
DONALD J. TRUMP 725 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, New York 10022 THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION / PRESIDENT/CEO IN-KIND: PAYROLL (SEE 23B FOR MEMOS)
08/25/2016 2574.43