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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:15 AM Sep 2016

Mike Ditka to Colin Kaepernick: 'Get the hell out' if you don't like America

“I think it’s a problem, anybody who disrespects this country and the flag,” the longtime NFL coach said in a radio interview on KRLD-FM in Dallas. “If they don’t like the country, if they don’t like our flag, get the hell out. That’s what I think.

“I have no respect for Colin Kaepernick. He probably has no respect for me, that’s his choice. My choice is that I like this country, I respect our flag, and I don’t see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on.

“I see opportunities if people want to look for opportunity. Now if they don’t want to look for them, then you can find problems with anything, but this is the land of opportunity because you can be anything you want to be if you work. Now if you don’t work, that’s a different problem.”


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/23/mike-ditka-colin-kaepernick-get-the-hell-out-anthem-protest?CMP=fb_us#link_time=1474650587
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Mike Ditka to Colin Kaepernick: 'Get the hell out' if you don't like America (Original Post) Blue_Adept Sep 2016 OP
Who is this guy? JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #1
Wikipedia is your friend Blue_Adept Sep 2016 #2
Today's textbook example of irony... ck4829 Sep 2016 #12
And I hate posts like this when all you have to say is "google is your friend" Demonaut Sep 2016 #15
Because it's absolutely fucking tiring Blue_Adept Sep 2016 #17
you make assumptions about a poster you know nothing about, how is it "cool" to announce Demonaut Sep 2016 #19
Everyone's not into sports, particularly football. Many don't know who Ditka is. brush Sep 2016 #41
The only reason I know who he is is becasue I'm from Wisconsin Bettie Sep 2016 #43
maybe they are just trying to say treestar Sep 2016 #55
It makes one feel superior. JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #21
Demonaut, just ignore that kind of crap. Happens to me once in a while but most here are OK. Ditka EV_Ares Sep 2016 #33
thanks but I was not asking the question, I came to the defense of another Demonaut Sep 2016 #35
Sorry EV_Ares Sep 2016 #37
Wow ! You really set him straight. pangaia Sep 2016 #29
Very right wing Funtatlaguy Sep 2016 #6
Thanks - I wasn't getting why JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #16
He was also the head coach of the Bears AND Greybnk48 Sep 2016 #46
Lovie Smith SpicyBoi Sep 2016 #51
Edited my post. Thanks SpicyBoi. n/t Greybnk48 Sep 2016 #57
Yup this about sums him up perfectly........eom a kennedy Sep 2016 #18
Not a Chicagoan, are ya. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #20
I like that description JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #22
I've never been much of a sports fan, myself, although I did have a few years Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #56
Nobody else has either, unless one was/is an American football freak. pangaia Sep 2016 #28
He's someone the Happy Schnapps Combo would like to see run over by a truck jmowreader Sep 2016 #53
For anyone who ever thought that saltpoint Sep 2016 #3
Ditka. AngryAmish Sep 2016 #4
Mike Ditka's blazing insights on saltpoint Sep 2016 #5
One more reason. Funtatlaguy Sep 2016 #8
LOL. Condom mints. Now that's saltpoint Sep 2016 #9
Why yes, Lester, Melania and I both just love salsa Funtatlaguy Sep 2016 #14
wow uponit7771 Sep 2016 #7
People who use such lines are the true aliens. gordianot Sep 2016 #10
Let's keep in mind (pun intended) that Ditka absorbed many anoNY42 Sep 2016 #11
He's been that way since birth, guaranteed. pangaia Sep 2016 #30
Ditka loves America but hates the people in it. baldguy Sep 2016 #13
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #24
Hey, RIGHT WING ASSHAT: HughBeaumont Sep 2016 #23
Or do something to change it.... JDC Sep 2016 #25
"...and I don't see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on." muntrv Sep 2016 #26
That's what struck me too. geardaddy Sep 2016 #58
I'd like to see a public debate between saltpoint Sep 2016 #27
Ditka for trumps Sec of HHS. pangaia Sep 2016 #31
Note to Mike Ditka: That thing in the saltpoint Sep 2016 #32
Great segment of Joy Reid of MSNBC. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #34
"...and I don't see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on." VulgarPoet Sep 2016 #36
Get the hell out if you don't like freedom of speech, Mike. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #38
Are you voting for Donald Trump? You're disrespecting our country, our flag and our military. Initech Sep 2016 #39
Oh Mike, yesphan Sep 2016 #40
Who? GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #42
spanone to mike ditka...go fuck yourself. spanone Sep 2016 #44
Ditka is a nimrod A HERETIC I AM Sep 2016 #45
Why The "If You Hate It So Much, Get Out" Argument Is Idiotic ChoppinBroccoli Sep 2016 #47
2003 called, it wants its GOP talking point back Rocknrule Sep 2016 #48
Oh Mickey!!! muntrv Sep 2016 #49
This wouldn't be a bad idea if one were allowed to. Shandris Sep 2016 #50
We don't actually live on the flag Mike, newsflash. Rex Sep 2016 #52
the one who should get out of the country is the one who treestar Sep 2016 #54
Ignorance and fantasies spouted by Ditka standingtall Sep 2016 #59

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
2. Wikipedia is your friend
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:18 AM
Sep 2016

Why wave your ignorance around like Ditka then?

Five seconds of google and you'd know.

Millions and millions of others know who he is however.

I absolutely hate posts like this. They scream "I don't know who famous people are, lookit me, I'm special."

ck4829

(35,071 posts)
12. Today's textbook example of irony...
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:42 AM
Sep 2016

Ditka himself is waving his ignorance of structural violence and privilege here in the US.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
17. Because it's absolutely fucking tiring
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:06 AM
Sep 2016

When you get so many people around here on such regularity trying to show how "cool" they are by not knowing famous people, you really do get tired of their fucking ignorance and/or ability to find information out for themselves.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
19. you make assumptions about a poster you know nothing about, how is it "cool" to announce
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:14 AM
Sep 2016

ones ignorance???

and no, I don't get tired of answering a question or guidance of how to get that information.

and I don't snap at people for ignorance, I'd rather help than espouse my superiority

brush

(53,776 posts)
41. Everyone's not into sports, particularly football. Many don't know who Ditka is.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:26 AM
Sep 2016

I do know now that Ditka has proven himself to be an ignorant dick who I no longer have any respect for.

Bettie

(16,101 posts)
43. The only reason I know who he is is becasue I'm from Wisconsin
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:35 AM
Sep 2016

and he was hated there by my Packer loving relatives.

As to him being an idiot...well, yes, he is.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
55. maybe they are just trying to say
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

that this person is not so famous and his opinion won't be relevant to a lot of people and therefore he won't have much influence.

I'm not into football that much, but I kind of knew he was in sports somehow.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
21. It makes one feel superior.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:17 AM
Sep 2016

Try it. Be sure to look down your nose at whoever you post that to, it's part of it.

Seriously, it doesn't take much more to type "old football guy, used to be somebody" than "google is your friend". Ooooh! HAving just typed that gave me a rush! I need to go enjoy the moment!

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
33. Demonaut, just ignore that kind of crap. Happens to me once in a while but most here are OK. Ditka
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:59 AM
Sep 2016

basically played College, NFL football, probably best known as the coach for the Chicago Bears for several years & sports announcer, other than that as his attack on Kapernick pretty much an ass as well but you won't find that in the Wiki.

Hey, hang in there & have a good day.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
35. thanks but I was not asking the question, I came to the defense of another
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:04 AM
Sep 2016

your answer is more accurate in context to the question

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
6. Very right wing
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:26 AM
Sep 2016

Old angry stupid white man.
Great football player with Bears.
Kinda like former basketball coach Bobby Knight in many ways.
Mean spirited, bigoted, homophobic, misoginistic, etc...A deplorable.

JustAnotherGen

(31,820 posts)
16. Thanks - I wasn't getting why
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:05 AM
Sep 2016

His words were weighted so heavily - at DU.


Eh? Not going to get 'outraged' about this. We have bigger issues in the next few weeks than this guy's 'look at me I'm special' statement.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
46. He was also the head coach of the Bears AND
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 10:03 AM
Sep 2016

the only coach to take them to a Super Bowl victory. He's in the football Hall of Fame and extremely well known among even casual football fans. He's done several t.v. commercials over the years and is included, at least once, and parodied in the well known SNL skit "Da Bears."

As an avid Packer football fan, when he first came out a couple of years ago spouting racism about President Obama I was completely shocked! I still am quite honestly, and now this. He's definitely part of the hippie hating, America, love it or leave crowd from way back, but for me, this adds a new layer of ugly. My first thought was that he has brain issues. Too many knocks on the head.

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/chicago/halloffame/jersey?id=6854764

SpicyBoi

(162 posts)
51. Lovie Smith
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 03:34 PM
Sep 2016

Also took the Bears to a Super Bowl, but they ended up losing to Peyton Manning and the Colts.

JustAnotherGen

(31,820 posts)
22. I like that description
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:27 AM
Sep 2016

I'm also not into Football at all. Never have been - 43 years and I've never seen the point.

So someone like OJ - who was infamous I would know.

I wouldn't get this man's relevance if you had not called him a meathead! Thanks! He's a meathead!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
56. I've never been much of a sports fan, myself, although I did have a few years
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 05:00 PM
Sep 2016

in the early 90s where I was able to appreciate the artistry of the then-Chicago Bulls.

But Ditka was kind of inescapable, on a local level.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
3. For anyone who ever thought that
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:19 AM
Sep 2016

Mike Ditka has been an idiot in the past, there may be comfort in consistency. Because he remains an idiot to this hour.

And there's no indication that he won't be an idiot tomorrow, the next day, next week, the week after, and in ten thousand years.

More power to Colin Kaepernick.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. Mike Ditka's blazing insights on
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:25 AM
Sep 2016

mayonnaise:

- - -

One of my favorite things is mayonnaise and I have to tell you that. I love mayonnaise, but I don't eat it any more. If I do I put light mayonnaise on it, which I know is still not good but it's a lot better than the other one and I don't eat it that much.

- - -

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
8. One more reason.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:31 AM
Sep 2016

Mayonnaise sucks
Mustard rocks....as does ketchup and salsa...now, those are great condom mints.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
14. Why yes, Lester, Melania and I both just love salsa
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:43 AM
Sep 2016

She often smears it on me when she is forced (by our pre nup) to have sex with me once a week.
She says it makes "little Donald" a little tastier.
And people say I don't like Mexicans.
See, I brought a Taco Bell burrito bowl to the debate. Want some, Lester?
Oh, sorry, I bet you'd rather have fried chicken or watermelon.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
10. People who use such lines are the true aliens.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:37 AM
Sep 2016

They may have been born in America educated in America but they have no real concept what it is to be American. That being said no one should insist unpatriotic Mike Ditka should be asked to leave.

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
11. Let's keep in mind (pun intended) that Ditka absorbed many
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:37 AM
Sep 2016

brutal hits during his career and might be suffering from CTE...

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
13. Ditka loves America but hates the people in it.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 07:42 AM
Sep 2016

He respects the flag but disrespects what it represents.

He doesn't see see all the atrocities going on in spite of the fact that they've been happening for centuries.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
23. Hey, RIGHT WING ASSHAT:
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:29 AM
Sep 2016

[font size="4"]Freedom is not solely what conservative white men dictate it to be.[/font]

JDC

(10,127 posts)
25. Or do something to change it....
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:41 AM
Sep 2016

Love it or lump it is not anywhere near what America is about Mike.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
26. "...and I don't see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on."
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:46 AM
Sep 2016

And that's why Ditka is an ignoramus.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
32. Note to Mike Ditka: That thing in the
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:55 AM
Sep 2016

Bill of Rights that allows you to shoot your ignorant mouth off is the same provision that permits Colin Kaepernick to express his wish for racial justice.

What other provisions in the Constitution don't you care for, Mike?

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
36. "...and I don't see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on."
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:08 AM
Sep 2016

Where's that image of the white dude on Ancient Aliens?

Just-- "White people."

Initech

(100,068 posts)
39. Are you voting for Donald Trump? You're disrespecting our country, our flag and our military.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:21 AM
Sep 2016

Two can play at that game, Mike!

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
40. Oh Mike,
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:24 AM
Sep 2016

"My choice is that I like this country, I respect our flag, and I don’t see all the atrocities going on in this country that people say are going on."

You see what going on perfectly fine. The thing is is you just don't see them as atrocities. To you it's what's required to maintain the status quo which is very much in your favor.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
47. Why The "If You Hate It So Much, Get Out" Argument Is Idiotic
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 10:14 AM
Sep 2016

After we were first married, my wife and I bought a house. The house was perfectly fine (our dream house, even), but a few years after we bought it, the roof started leaking. I went to my wife and said, "the roof is leaking and we need to fix it." She replied, "Well, if you hate this house so much, why don't you just get the hell out?" I didn't hate the house or anyone in it. I just wanted the roof to stop leaking. Her response was an irrational response. And it did nothing to stop the leak.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
50. This wouldn't be a bad idea if one were allowed to.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:32 PM
Sep 2016

But it's not like you can just hop a plane and go wherever you'd like for any reason and just move in.

Makes me think immigration should be performed on a roughly-equal basis. 1000 in, 1000 out. Then each nation could be populated by people who wanted to be under their society's culture and immigration wouldn't decimate wages for the entire world.

Of course, that wouldn't decimate wages for the entire world, so we'll never see it happen.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
52. We don't actually live on the flag Mike, newsflash.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:01 PM
Sep 2016

Well nobody ever said Mike Ditka was a smart man, just that he is loud and likes to hear himself talk. A lot.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
54. the one who should get out of the country is the one who
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:57 PM
Sep 2016

doesn't get that being able to protest is what makes this country what it is.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
59. Ignorance and fantasies spouted by Ditka
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:03 PM
Sep 2016

"You can be anything you can be anything you want to be if you work" Really! So if your 5"10 and 120 lbs you can be an NFL football player? Yeah right. Ask just about anyone in the NFL if anybody that works hard enough can can play in that league regardless of their physical limitations. And I'm pretty sure most will say no.

Mike Ditka was a football player and a football coach. Most if not all other jobs he had were football related. He did not become successful through hard work alone. He apparently lives in a bubble sense all his success springs from a natural talent he had to begin with and most people don't have that.

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