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andym

(5,443 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:30 AM Sep 2016

There you go again Jimmy

In 1980 a lot of folks were skeptical about Reagan: besides stating a bunch of ridiculous things on the campaign trail, like trees are the major source of pollution because they produce CO2, he had a set of unachievable policy goals: like balancing the budget by cutting taxes (voodoo economics). Moreover, he had previously stated he wanted to do away with Medicare etc. He was also a very vocal opponent of the Soviet Union, some suggested he might start WWIII.

In the one and only debate, a few days from the election, Jimmy Carter who was highly unpopular at the time running without an overarching campaign theme, attacked Reagan's very public policy proposals, which the affable Reagan dismissed by "There you go again." Reagan's performance lifted enough of the concern over whether Reagan was not an extremist to help him win by a landslide.

Lessons: Negatives are reversible and even a bit of seeming reasonableness goes a long way to help "characters" achieve respectability.

Reagan was positive and optimistic. Carter was pessimistic and realistic with a lot of wonkish policy proposals.

Carter was not bold in his campaign, Reagan was.

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ffr

(22,669 posts)
1. Carter was not bold in his campaign, Reagan was.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:33 AM
Sep 2016

And people want to get excited for their candidate. Besides the Obama's, I don't see excitement brewing like we saw at the convention. Why? What's the harm in having an enthusiastic message, one that people are attracted to.

This should be Kaine's job. He needs to step it up.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. I thought the 2008 election taught us to run popular candidates.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
Sep 2016

1992 the Dems ran a charismatic candidate as well.


It's not about policy but likeability. Remember the "who'd you rather have a beer with, Gore and his lock box, or George who is dumb as a post but knows a funny poop joke"?

andym

(5,443 posts)
4. It's rare that a popular or charismatic candidate will lose
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 11:37 AM
Sep 2016

that is a clear lesson of American history. The only modern exception was TR in his third party attempt to win back the presidency.

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