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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:39 PM Sep 2016

Second Sailor 'Under Review' for Refusing to Stand for Anthem

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/09/23/second-sailor-under-review-for-refusing-to-stand-for-anthem.html

Intelligence Specialist 2nd Class Janaye Ervin, a reservist on active duty within U.S. Pacific Fleet, is subject to administrative actions, still under review, for refusing to stand for the national anthem while in uniform Sept. 19, Bill Doughty, a spokesman for Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam Public Affairs told Military.com....

"I have been proudly serving in the US Navy Reserve Force since November 2008. I have pledged to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and to spread freedom and democracy around the world. I will never waver from that pledge," she wrote in the post, which included a photograph of herself in her Navy blue digital camouflage work uniform....

"I feel like a hypocrite singing about the 'land of the free' when I know that only applies to some Americans," she wrote. "I will gladly stand again, when ALL AMERICANS are afforded the same freedom."

According to activist and New York Daily News reporter Shaun King, who publicized Ervin's case on Twitter along with a Change.org petition supporting her, Ervin said she lost her security clearance and was threatened with jail by the Navy in response to her actions.






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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
9. Which is surely what she will do
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:50 PM
Sep 2016

Still I admire her willingness to take that heat for what she believes in.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. Failure to follow an order is a large umbrella
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:45 PM
Sep 2016

Will be interesting how this turns out. Most likely no punishment but maybe not allowed to reenlist next time she's up.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
7. If nothing else any more specific they will always use UCMJ Article 134.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016



They have been using it for time immemorial.


 

Softail1

(56 posts)
6. She has guts..but no legal writes
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

as a former military, I do believe if they order her to stand, then that's it..she must obey, or face the music,(would be an article 15 punishment, or a court martial, depending on how hard they want to be on her). But she has no real power here. sorry, but that's the way it is in the military,(8 years for me).

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
8. I wholeheartedly support not standing during the anthem, however in uniform and on duty
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Sep 2016

was not a wise choice on her part. Violating an article of the UCMJ will get you nothing but trouble.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
10. She knows the military has rules
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

And she should be smart enough that publicly act out in defiance of Navy regulations would result in disciplinary actions and put her security clearance in jeapordy.

At least part of the issue is her recording and making a political statement in uniform. That's simply not acceptable, on top of the other regulations she violated.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. I like that the issue is spreading
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 05:10 PM
Sep 2016

and would hope this young lady was versed in possible consequences for being in uniform.

jalan48

(13,863 posts)
12. I remember living in Orange County, California during the Vietnam War.
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 05:14 PM
Sep 2016

In some of the movie theaters they would show the flag on the screen and play the anthem before the movie. People would actually stand up in the dark for this charade.

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