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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:23 AM Oct 2016

"10 years ago I was working in the restaurant at Donald Trump's golf course..."

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annabella888

This article from today's LA Times has stirred up a lot of memories and feelings that I had tried not to think about for the past several years. Those feelings are difficult to ignore when your former boss is running for president of The United States of America. There's little escaping hearing his name and seeing his face on a daily basis, unless you want to go live off the grid in the back of beyond, which doesn't sound half bad.

10 years ago I was working in the restaurant at Donald Trump's golf course, the one mentioned in this article. It's located about 5 minutes from where I grew up. I worked there before he bought the place and continued to work there after. I brought him his eggs for breakfast and his favorite clam chowder for lunch countless times. Somehow I passed for being attractive enough to wait on him. I know I wasn't his first choice and I wasn't his type. He didn't make me stand there while he put his arm around me and made the other men at the table tell me how beautiful I was like he did to my friend. I didn't get sent home or not scheduled for work on the day's when he was visiting the property, but plenty of my female coworkers did. I was in my mid 20's at the time and I could tell that was pushing it for being able to be in The Donald's presence. He wanted to see girls still in their teens, the thinner and prettier the better. If you didn't match this you could expect to not be scheduled, you could expect to be in line for getting fired.

I guess the reason I'm writing all this is to offer another true example of this man's deplorable character. Sure, there are much bigger issues at stake in this election. Trump giving the "you're fired" to women who didn't match up to his unrealistic beauty standards is not number one on the agenda. But it does highlight the disturbing nature of his mentality. Being a woman and consciously choosing to vote for this man, is choosing to vote against your gender. It's choosing to let this sexist bully get away with discrimination against not only women, but immigrants, minorities, and the working class.



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"10 years ago I was working in the restaurant at Donald Trump's golf course..." (Original Post) kpete Oct 2016 OP
Yep yep yep yep yep Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #1
I'd call the man a pig, but it would be an insult to pigs. Vinca Oct 2016 #2
That's what amazes me. How such an ugly, disgusting person thinks he has the right smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #10
Jabba the Hutt is the arbiter of beauty~! nt MADem Oct 2016 #19
Even as a younger, much thinner guy (don't know that he was ever in great shape) maddiemom Oct 2016 #21
Compare him to John Kerry, a very good looking older man who does not shame women smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #23
Eye of the beholder comes to mind. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #24
I am a man awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #50
Sorry, not even the cuties have that right! His ugliness is irrelevant to the argument. flor-de-jasmim Oct 2016 #27
i agree; it's the height of superficiality, and he clearly can't deal with women as equals. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2016 #49
Money Changes Everything (nt) klook Oct 2016 #11
He's a maggot MFM008 Oct 2016 #37
If not for silver spoon in mouth at birth he'd be a GWC58 Oct 2016 #42
Thank you for posting this. What you said matters. apcalc Oct 2016 #3
Southern woman, pwb Oct 2016 #4
K&R sarae Oct 2016 #5
Not at all surprised. R&K nt longship Oct 2016 #6
KNR alfredo Oct 2016 #7
not fit to be human. spanone Oct 2016 #8
Trump's biggest problem, he is Donald Trump. Coyotl Oct 2016 #9
If looks were the only criterion for finding someone... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #12
Ew. He's as disgusting and despicable as I thought. And as creepy."Teenage girls?" catbyte Oct 2016 #13
Did he have the hots for Twiggy in his youth? HockeyMom Oct 2016 #14
He found Paris Hilton "attractive" at age 12. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #15
Oh well, she's an old geezer by now. The Donald wouldn't be caught being seen smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #20
That might be the reason also HockeyMom Oct 2016 #45
As with any other occupation, tavernier Oct 2016 #16
Many years ago, I used to go to a restaurant whose newest employee had ONLY been niyad Oct 2016 #25
I recall a restaurant where the waitresses were distinctly grandmotherly. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #28
I do remember a similar restaurant--think it was a chain?? granny's??? niyad Oct 2016 #31
This one wasn't - it was an old-style cafe in Minneapolis. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #35
absolutely delightful though. niyad Oct 2016 #36
They closed in 1979 (kinda dates me - now I'm as old as their waitresses). The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #39
and what a lovely tribute you found. niyad Oct 2016 #40
Wait - her appearance is barely acceptable in the eyes of Donald Trump? mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2016 #17
It's fun to construct a cross from which we can martyr ourselves. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #34
The woman writing this grew up near the restaurant and worked their before tRUMP ever bought it...so downeastdaniel Oct 2016 #43
Yeah I hear that, sorry you had to work there. Did he leave you a tip .. ever? YOHABLO Oct 2016 #18
K & R ...... nt Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #22
Purely disgusting. hamsterjill Oct 2016 #26
100% correct! n/a Euphoria Oct 2016 #29
100% correct! Euphoria Oct 2016 #30
"women, ...immigrants, minorities" hfojvt Oct 2016 #32
His "organization" purchased a golf course The_Casual_Observer Oct 2016 #33
Along with his other defects of character, Dump is a Pig. Nitram Oct 2016 #38
I am not condoning Doreen Oct 2016 #41
Is this for real? DFW Oct 2016 #44
Read the LA Times article. mnhtnbb Oct 2016 #46
Can't argue with that DFW Oct 2016 #48
Its an instagram post hexola Oct 2016 #51
oh good grief! chillfactor Oct 2016 #52
People don't deserve to be treated like that. ffr Oct 2016 #47

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
2. I'd call the man a pig, but it would be an insult to pigs.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:37 AM
Oct 2016

It's a mystery how such an unattractive slob of a man can convince himself he's a hunk who deserves to only have beautiful women wait on him hand and foot.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. That's what amazes me. How such an ugly, disgusting person thinks he has the right
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:37 AM
Oct 2016

to determine a woman's worth based upon her looks. What sickening arrogance! I will never understand how a woman could vote for a pig like Trump.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
21. Even as a younger, much thinner guy (don't know that he was ever in great shape)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 10:24 AM
Oct 2016

Trump was very average-looking . Without his money he'd have just been Mr. Ordinary. Since his personality was based on being a conceited braggart, w/o his money it would be hard to like him at all. Looking at other men who are seventy or a few years older, he doesn't measure up to most actors of course, but there are very few public figures around his age (excluding a few well-known rich Repubs,) who don't look waaay better. Normal, "older" red-blooded women, tell me: Donald or Joe Biden?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Compare him to John Kerry, a very good looking older man who does not shame women
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 10:36 AM
Oct 2016

based upon their looks. Kerry blows him out of the water in every single way - looks, intelligence, manner, poise. Trump cannot compare.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. Eye of the beholder comes to mind.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:01 PM
Oct 2016

Kerry is too much like a "professor" (you know, intelligent, well-read, well-spoken) for many women to find attractive. He might have some money, but he doesn't brag about and it enough for them to realize a gold-digger might do OK with him.

I suppose all of the below average appearance-wise women who are supporting him accept that they are fat or flat ugly pigs deserving of no love or respect.

How the Hell else can we explain them? I hope many of them who can't let their feelings be known among their domineering men-folk and subservient female friends are secretly planning to vote for Hillary on election day!

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
42. If not for silver spoon in mouth at birth he'd be a
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 02:32 PM
Oct 2016

a homeless man in ill fitting clothes with his hand out. And he'd be bald to boot!

pwb

(11,261 posts)
4. Southern woman,
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:45 AM
Oct 2016

like my Republican Aunt, as lovely and proper as they are, must be struggling to vote for trump? Something about manners being a big thing with them. Hope they all rise up and vote for Hillary.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
12. If looks were the only criterion for finding someone...
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:53 AM
Oct 2016

...appealing, Trump would be an excellent argument for celibacy.

Even if he were physically attractive, his attitudes would also be arguments for celibacy.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
13. Ew. He's as disgusting and despicable as I thought. And as creepy."Teenage girls?"
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:04 AM
Oct 2016


And that woman looks gorgeous. If she wasn't up to Cheeto Benito's standards, the rest of us must be dog food. Words are inadequate to express how loathsome he is.
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
14. Did he have the hots for Twiggy in his youth?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:08 AM
Oct 2016

I had the "honor" of being singled out by him when we were in our 20's. Why me? I'm hardly a model type (5'1&quot , but I am very thin at 98 lbs. Hearing all his comments today about women's weight, apparently he was obsessed with that even in his 20's.

He was a creepy, obnoxious young man and it's even worse in an old man running for the Presidency. I told The Donald to get lost in my 20's. I will be saying the same in my 60's, with my vote. There is something very wrong with this man mentally on so many levels.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Oh well, she's an old geezer by now. The Donald wouldn't be caught being seen
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 10:18 AM
Oct 2016

with the likes of her old ass.

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
16. As with any other occupation,
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:35 AM
Oct 2016

I have often noticed that the best waitstaff are the ladies and gentlemen who have been in the business longest and not only "know their stuff" but sincerely have pride in offering their clientele a relaxed and memorable dining experience. The best restaurants in the world value this type of server and bend over backwards to keep them on their staff for years. Obviously Trump only eats at his greasy spoons; otherwise he would know that.

niyad

(113,279 posts)
25. Many years ago, I used to go to a restaurant whose newest employee had ONLY been
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:35 PM
Oct 2016

there fifteen years. the service, of course, was excellent.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
28. I recall a restaurant where the waitresses were distinctly grandmotherly.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:40 PM
Oct 2016

The service was excellent but there was one waitress who wouldn't allow you to order dessert until you'd eaten your vegetables. Seriously. I loved that place.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
35. This one wasn't - it was an old-style cafe in Minneapolis.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:55 PM
Oct 2016

They've been out of business for years, unfortunately. I think it was called the Rainbow Cafe.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
39. They closed in 1979 (kinda dates me - now I'm as old as their waitresses).
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:12 PM
Oct 2016

I found this article: http://www.legeros.com/fof/rainbow/tears.at.end.shtml

The stars of the Rainbow menu are hamburgers, homemade soups and hard rolls. It has strictly grandmother-style home cooking-- hash, Irish stew and chops.

The Rainbow's other ornaments are its waitresses-- patient, silver-haired professionals with names like Rose, Hermina, Dorea and La Vaughn. Some of the total staff of 75 hope to stay on after the remodeling, but a few have made other plans.

Waitress Mabel King considers herself "a new girl." She has only worked at the Rainbow for 13 years, while Hulda Westgard is a veteran with 39 years to her credit. Ruth Scheftel, the accountant, has been with the Rainbow for 54 years, but she's casual about her record. "It's nothing, really. I jus wanted a summer job while I went to college, but I stayed on," she said.

"I grew up in here," said Amanda Lillard, who has been a Rainbow waitress for 29 years. "I'm glad they're closing 'cause it's the only I'll get out of here other than in a box. Oh, I quite twice, but I came running back before they had a chance to miss me."


I loved that place.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
17. Wait - her appearance is barely acceptable in the eyes of Donald Trump?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:40 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:12 PM - Edit history (2)

Wow, am I in trouble.

Yes, I know I'm missing the whole point of this. Flame away.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. It's fun to construct a cross from which we can martyr ourselves.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:51 PM
Oct 2016

"I know I'm missing the whole point of this. Flame away...."

It's fun to construct a cross from which we can martyr ourselves. It often allows us to feel more relevant than reality dictates.

downeastdaniel

(497 posts)
43. The woman writing this grew up near the restaurant and worked their before tRUMP ever bought it...so
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 03:08 PM
Oct 2016

Why do you get off giving her the "constructing the cross" routine? Poor entry: small mind.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
18. Yeah I hear that, sorry you had to work there. Did he leave you a tip .. ever?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 10:07 AM
Oct 2016

That's a sign of a real a... whole. I've waited on a lot of celebs in my life. Let me just say this, some of them are terrible tippers.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
26. Purely disgusting.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:35 PM
Oct 2016

That Trump was doing this is bad enough. That he was getting away with it is despicable. He surrounds himself with enablers and preys upon people who are in no position to argue with him or fight back.

THAT is the real definition of "asshole".

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
33. His "organization" purchased a golf course
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:47 PM
Oct 2016

On the Palos Verdes Pennisula that was i finished and bankrupt for a song. The place should have been left to return to nature. Instead it was finished and it's another overpriced faux Italian shithole place surrounded by faux Italian villas. Classic Trump.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
41. I am not condoning
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 01:17 PM
Oct 2016

their act of voting for him but I in some sense feel sorry for the women who are voting for him because I see women who have been abused and beaten down by hateful men all of their lives and truly believe that a mans word is the only word. They had been taught that women do not count. I do not know if it is just me but that is what I see when I see these women.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
44. Is this for real?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 03:09 PM
Oct 2016

"I didn't get sent home or not scheduled for work on the day's when he was visiting................ "

"day's?" Who forms a plural with an apostrophe? Anyone who graduated the second grade knows that English does not form plurals with an apostrophe, and yet the rest of the article seems coherently written. I'd like some more backup that this was written by a real person. It is a believable narrative, but "day's" as a plural? Less believable.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
48. Can't argue with that
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 06:37 PM
Oct 2016

Still hard to believe someone is putting in made-up grammar into serious articles, and no one with at least a 3rd grade education is proofreading them.

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
52. oh good grief!
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:08 AM
Oct 2016

with as despicable a piece of rotten flesh t'rump is........ what his behavior is like around women and from what is described in the article, you are worried about a damn apostrophe?

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