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Okay, I'm getting confused. What swing states does Cheeto Benito need to get to 270? Assuming he (Original Post) catbyte Oct 2016 OP
Red states + OH, NV, IA, PA, & FL would give Trump 270 VMA131Marine Oct 2016 #1
Thank you! catbyte Oct 2016 #13
Seems To Me....... ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2016 #2
Thanks! catbyte Oct 2016 #12
All of them. /nt yardwork Oct 2016 #3
PA is impossible for him. onehandle Oct 2016 #4
I hope you are right. I live in PA and I'm everyday watching the polls, listening to the people. apcalc Oct 2016 #6
Florida, for sure BainsBane Oct 2016 #5
Here is a great website for modeling exboyfil Oct 2016 #7
Thanks! catbyte Oct 2016 #11
"Election Update: The Top ‘Must-Win’ States For Trump And Clinton" at this url: ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #8
Thanks! That's helpful. catbyte Oct 2016 #10
Thank you! I think I have to unplug and stop listening to cable news, lol. Thanks again to all. catbyte Oct 2016 #9
FL, OH, NC, NV, CO, IA + Romney states davidn3600 Oct 2016 #14
Using 270 to win exboyfil Oct 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Proud Public Servant Oct 2016 #16
Really just 3 Proud Public Servant Oct 2016 #17

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
1. Red states + OH, NV, IA, PA, & FL would give Trump 270
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:36 PM
Oct 2016

Without PA, if he wins ME and NC he gets 269 EV. Trump would have to pick off a reliable blue state to win the EV without PA.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
2. Seems To Me.......
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:38 PM
Oct 2016

............it looks like it's Pennsylvania. I used to think Ohio and Florida were the key to winning any Presidential election, but I've seen models where Hillary loses both Ohio and Florida and still wins (she does this because she wins Pennsylvania and Virginia). So since she can win WITHOUT Ohio and Florida (and Drumpf can't win UNLESS he wins BOTH Ohio and Florida), that leaves Pennsylvania and Virginia. Virginia is highly unlikely, since Tim Kaine is from there. That leaves Pennsylvania, which is also highly unlikely because it's been reliably blue for a LONG time, and he's way behind in the polls there. Realistically, Drumpf has no chance.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
6. I hope you are right. I live in PA and I'm everyday watching the polls, listening to the people.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

Tonight phone banking for HRC....

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
8. "Election Update: The Top ‘Must-Win’ States For Trump And Clinton" at this url:
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:02 PM
Oct 2016

There is a 538 article from Sept 10th,
"Election Update: The Top ‘Must-Win’ States For Trump And Clinton"
at this url:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-top-must-win-states-for-trump-and-clinton/

Also see the 538 article from Sept 22 here:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clintons-leading-in-exactly-the-states-she-needs-to-win/

Scroll down a little. There is a figure that looks like a snake or some convoluted plumbing, blue on the left and reddish on the right. It gives a state by state breakdown. Pale blue and pink states toward the middle are swing states.

On the right you can click on "See polls and forecasts" under the USA map, and you get to a page that has a bigger USA map. You can move the mouse/cursor over any state to get the percentages for that state.

Note that 538 tends to express its numbers in terms of probability of winning the election, not in straight polling results.

Florida is an important state for either side to win.

Also see "The winding path to 270 electoral votes"
To see that, go here and page down a ways:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
14. FL, OH, NC, NV, CO, IA + Romney states
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:22 PM
Oct 2016

Trump is leading in IA and OH.

Florida..... the polls have been favorable to Hillary. But Florida tends to always tighten up as the election gets closer. Obama only won that state by a point in 2012. It's a funky state.

NC is a toss-up.

NV and CO seems to be leaning to Clinton since the last debate.

However, keep in mind some of this may be a post-debate bump. Which means it might not be fully sustained.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
15. Using 270 to win
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 02:33 PM
Oct 2016

I assign both split congressional districts to Trump. I also give him Iowa, Ohio, Arizona and Georgia. I give Clinton Minnesota, Michigan, and Virginia. These are the 7 paths to Trump victory.

FL, PA, NV
FL, PA, NC
FL, PA, CO
FL, NC, CO, NV
FL, NC, NV, NH
FL, NC, CO, NH
PA, NC, CO, NV, NH

It is highly unlikely that Trump would win without Florida. He must win either FL or PA in all cases.


Response to exboyfil (Reply #15)

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
17. Really just 3
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 03:17 PM
Oct 2016

Romney states plus OH, FL, and PA would put him at 273.

Without PA, he needs IA (likely), NV (possible), and NH (unlikely); that would put him at 269, throw the election into the House, and get him elected.

But the real key is Florida. Realistically, I just don't see how he gets to 270 without it.

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