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Just lost my best friend because I would not vote Trump (Original Post) Marc2010 Oct 2016 OP
Hmmm...doesn't sound like much of a friend...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #1
That's a tough place to be. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2016 #2
Well Marc2010 Oct 2016 #9
But can't he see the lies? Trump is one big huster and he's a racist. The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #22
I'm sorry you had to go through this. Rose Siding Oct 2016 #78
he had a different perspective on your friendship Demonaut Oct 2016 #3
My mom had a fight with a friend this morning at the gym. madaboutharry Oct 2016 #4
And Bernie. Tough election for friendships. Hamlette Oct 2016 #62
Stop fighting the primary please ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #79
Yep Marc2010 Oct 2016 #5
Some friend. I don't think you've lost much The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #6
Damn, these people are GWC58 Oct 2016 #7
You're better off izzybella Oct 2016 #8
Wow blue cat Oct 2016 #10
same here... chillfactor Oct 2016 #11
He hopes somebody KILLS you? PearliePoo2 Oct 2016 #12
He doesn't have the dick to do anything Marc2010 Oct 2016 #14
You mean the balls. classykaren Oct 2016 #54
That's how they say it in Russia alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #57
Does that explain the grammar ... Hekate Oct 2016 #63
English alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #65
Of course, of course Hekate Oct 2016 #67
Yep I am find out.... Marc2010 Oct 2016 #13
Don't be ashamed PJMcK Oct 2016 #28
A lot of us are living with that. Aristus Oct 2016 #46
Used to be a die hard beliving Monetarist Economist, Greenspan worshiping... Xolodno Oct 2016 #48
I was there in 2003 awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #51
Well, he showed you who he is… dhill926 Oct 2016 #15
With friends like those, who needs enemies. tenderfoot Oct 2016 #16
You are better off without somebody who says that. yardwork Oct 2016 #17
What kind of friend would wish for your Denise? still_one Oct 2016 #18
I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone voting R this November Matrosov Oct 2016 #19
If this is the kind of hate the Republicans have to anyone with another opinion, I just have to say: Marc2010 Oct 2016 #20
Am I the only one who finds the OP's command of colloquial American to be a bit odd? Hekate Oct 2016 #64
YUP jodymarie aimee Oct 2016 #77
You are definitely correct. I noticed it in all of the OP's posts. anneboleyn Oct 2016 #81
Don't be hurt. It is a sad missing part of their id that makes them afraid to be giving. You The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #21
No. Marc2010 Oct 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #35
Even if he does not drink he may have an addictive personality; prone to seeing the world Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #55
knew him for 20 years? Sounds like something a 14 year old would say snooper2 Oct 2016 #23
In all honesty: Marc2010 Oct 2016 #25
This was not a "best friend" or even a friend. This was someone you'd hang around with when bored anneboleyn Oct 2016 #82
I feel your pain mrsv Oct 2016 #26
You can join my circle of friends. izzybella Oct 2016 #31
I just spent last Saturday with Trump-loving friends eissa Oct 2016 #27
I went through same thing ... rustysgurl Oct 2016 #29
The one thing I have noticed with Trump fans: Marc2010 Oct 2016 #36
Racism overt , covert or both is so wrong in anyone. Let alone a national figure. The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #69
Email back about The Butcher of Beirut. That ought to annoy. Shrike47 Oct 2016 #53
I just recently found out you can block certain "friends" posts, Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #59
Sounds like you might be fortunate to have that split & move on. EV_Ares Oct 2016 #30
I guess I am blessed. izzybella Oct 2016 #32
Hopes that someone kills you?! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #33
I agree with the other responses here that say your ex-friend has shown you who he really is. bluesbassman Oct 2016 #34
I saw the light. I hope others do too. Before Trump destroys America Marc2010 Oct 2016 #38
Wow. You deserve a real "best friend." That person is neither. nt. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #37
Oh I do, and she does not follow politics at all and does not care about it Marc2010 Oct 2016 #39
He'll/She'll eventually wend their way back. Few can stay that ignorant for so long that they would blm Oct 2016 #40
My policy is to be okay with friends who VOTE Trump, just not those who SUPPORT him Patiod Oct 2016 #41
Yah. I'm not a hypocrite either whatthehey Oct 2016 #44
I used to have a life-long friend...... missingfink Oct 2016 #42
Fuck him Go Vols Oct 2016 #43
Yah being a non-RWNJ bargoer is a trial whatthehey Oct 2016 #45
Unfortunately Trump is a friendship buster lunatica Oct 2016 #47
I giggle with bemusement at anyone who predicates friendship LanternWaste Oct 2016 #49
The OPs issue is much beyond preference though. We're talking vocal rabid support of bigotry here. bettyellen Oct 2016 #72
"hope somebody kills me" awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #50
He may be having doubts, Cracklin Charlie Oct 2016 #52
When the moron loses in Nov, he'll have to get over it. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #56
and when the "friend" reaches out to you Demonaut Oct 2016 #58
Think of it a lot like a divorce... roamer65 Oct 2016 #60
Um..... Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #61
I hope when Hillary wins, he'll be constantly Ilsa Oct 2016 #66
A lot of us have lost friends and family members this way... reflection Oct 2016 #70
hmmmm. Cool story, Bro. nt lillypaddle Oct 2016 #71
Indeed it is Hekate Oct 2016 #73
... lillypaddle Oct 2016 #75
Sounds like an asshole to me RonniePudding Oct 2016 #74
I'm sorry you lost a long time friendship emulatorloo Oct 2016 #76
That's a shame. Turbineguy Oct 2016 #80
are you the one who made the anti transgender posts ? JI7 Oct 2016 #83
You are better off without him. Third Doctor Oct 2016 #84

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
2. That's a tough place to be.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:17 PM
Oct 2016

Did this just come out of left field, or have you always had political differences?

Just curious...or maybe you'd never gotten into the politics that you each followed.

I'm sorry. Losing a good friend is never easy, especially when there is so much bitterness.

 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
9. Well
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:20 PM
Oct 2016

Until this year I was a semi-Republican. Trump is what drove me to want to vote Democrat. He (my former friend) is the kind of person who thinks anything Trump says should be treated as Holy Scripture

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
78. I'm sorry you had to go through this.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oct 2016

But I'm glad we have a chance to be on the same side for now.

Thanks for doing what's right, and I hope you can see how wrong it was for him to wish you ill.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
4. My mom had a fight with a friend this morning at the gym.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:18 PM
Oct 2016

She called me this morning and said they're now not speaking.

Trump: Tearing America apart one friend at a time.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
62. And Bernie. Tough election for friendships.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Oct 2016

I have a friend who won't talk to me because I voted Hillary in the primary.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
6. Some friend. I don't think you've lost much
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

but still, it's sad that someone you've known for so long and regarded as a good friend would say such a terrible thing.

izzybella

(236 posts)
8. You're better off
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

Anyone who would say something so disgusting is not a person you want in your life anyway. It just took Trump to bring out his true colors.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
12. He hopes somebody KILLS you?
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Oct 2016

Jesus, run and don't look back. This guy is nuts. And Trump is unleashing millions more violent, crazies just like him. If he escalates his rhetoric and threats call the authorities.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
65. English
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:13 PM
Oct 2016

is not the first language here.

That's fairly clear.

Needless to say, nothing's wrong with that.


 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
13. Yep I am find out....
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

They are only tolerant and compassionate if you are as hateful and bigoted as they are

I am ashamed that I once called myself 'Republican'

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
28. Don't be ashamed
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:52 PM
Oct 2016

All of us grow and evolve at our own rates. Welcome to the Democratic side, Marc2010.

Sounds to me like you've figured out some important things for your life. Best wishes!

Aristus

(66,341 posts)
46. A lot of us are living with that.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:49 PM
Oct 2016

I used to be a vocal, outspoken supporter of Ronald Reagan. Like a lot of people, I got suckered by the sunny grin and the optimistic phraseology. I cast my vote for Bush Sr in 1988 and 1992. Conservative Republicanism was never a very good fit with my personal outlook, but it was popular in the '80's.

Like anyone with a brain and a heart, I was horrified by the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994. I voted for Bill Clinton in 1996. And sElection 2000 solidified my ideological outlook as a die-hard liberal Democrat. I found DU like an oasis in a desert in May, 2001. And I've been here ever since. People who know me know my personal political refrain: "Liberal till I DIE!"

I'm glad you have found the people who understand you. Welcome to DU.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
48. Used to be a die hard beliving Monetarist Economist, Greenspan worshiping...
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:51 PM
Oct 2016

....etc.

But after seeing that system fail over and over and other ideas crashing and burning....

I came to my senses.

I lean very much Socialist now.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
51. I was there in 2003
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 05:59 PM
Oct 2016

the run up to the Iraq made me question everything I believe. When I started thinking hard and honestly about it, I realized that I agreed with nothing the GOP stands for. Stay strong, and welcome to DU.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
19. I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone voting R this November
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:36 PM
Oct 2016

Even the ones that claim they're voting Republican to support the party rather than to support Trump will still be complicit in enabling him. Someone as vile as Trump should stand no chance of becoming President. Hell, someone as vile as him shouldn't have even stood a chance to become the nominee of a major political party.

Regardless of what people think about Hillary, there is no way anyone who isn't a bigot or as dumb as a rock can argue that she is somehow the worse choice and voting for Trump is therefore justified.

 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
20. If this is the kind of hate the Republicans have to anyone with another opinion, I just have to say:
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:37 PM
Oct 2016

Thank you.

Thank you for showing your true colors and showing me what kind of people you are.

Thank you for no more phony hand-shakes

Thank you for no more pulling the wool over my eyes and keeping me in the dark about what you really believe

In all honesty, thank you for re-affirming my decision to vote Hillary

Now suck my dick

Thank you.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
77. YUP
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oct 2016

kind of like going on cheeto's FB page..the hired Malaysians and Fillipinos who are paid $400 a month to post. they speak like this...clunky.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
68. Don't be hurt. It is a sad missing part of their id that makes them afraid to be giving. You
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:35 PM
Oct 2016

are lucky to see them for what they are and realize that that is not what this country is about. Fear and a sense of superiority is driving them to be so stupid to the loses that we will all see if Trump gets power over us.

We have had a very rational, intelligent, and compassionate President for almost eight years and we are spoiled. They can't even imagine the loses we would experience in personal liberties and international standing. Not to mention how these greedy heartless get-a-headers will strip our personal and national financial worth.

Pity them but be ready to fight them legally and logically using every angle.

Hillary is also rational, intelligent, and compassionate with a hands on wisdom that will guide us into a better future for ourselves and our children. She is also surrounded by those who have and will work to form a more perfect union.

Response to Marc2010 (Original post)

 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
24. No.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:46 PM
Oct 2016

Actually he is a person who thinks if you take even a sip of beer, you are an alcoholic

But knowing how much of a raging alcoholic his brother was, I understand his aversion to it

Response to Marc2010 (Reply #24)

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
55. Even if he does not drink he may have an addictive personality; prone to seeing the world
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:31 PM
Oct 2016

in extremes only.

If not friend - enemy
If not pure - evil
If not chaste - slut

Foodstamps = lazy (nevermind most recipients are working poor)
Brown skin = "illegal" or terrorist

We could go on and on, but you know as well as anyone could.

Try not to be hard on yourself. You were betrayed and that hurts. It takes a little while to process everything you've been through but you're on your way to a life with a clearer conscience.

Welcome! and thank you for recognizing that we truly are Stronger Together.

 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
25. In all honesty:
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:47 PM
Oct 2016

He was very impulsive and immature and more times than not, I was the voice of reason and had to try to talk him out of stupid shit.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
82. This was not a "best friend" or even a friend. This was someone you'd hang around with when bored
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 05:53 PM
Oct 2016

Based on what you've posted you had absolutely nothing in common with this person. Your personalities aren't similar or sympathetic and you certainly disagreed on core political beliefs. Are you very young -- like in your early twenties? You sound very young to me as friends doing "stupid shit" declines rapidly in one's 30s and 40s. Also one's tolerance for others who do "stupid shit" declines rapidly in one's 30s and 40s as life decisions -- spouses, children, careers, houses, etc -- require responsibility.

mrsv

(209 posts)
26. I feel your pain
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:50 PM
Oct 2016

Lost my best friend of 50 years...and I'm 56. My heart is still broken. This election is revealing who people really are...and I guess I didn't know her as well as I thought. But even when Hillary wins the election...I think we all will have lost... someone. Hang in there...it gets easier.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
27. I just spent last Saturday with Trump-loving friends
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:51 PM
Oct 2016

We're a handful of couples that have known each other for decades. They're mainly on my husband's side, but we socialize often. All conservative, which has never been an issue before this election. Trump has exposed a bigotry that to this day I didn't even know existed in them. Example: two of the couples were talking about their recent vacations to Mexico (one to Cancun, the other to Mazatlan.) Both raving about how beautiful it all was....except for "all the Mexicans" The most rabid of them is a woman who has used every social program imaginable, has had at least one abortion, and whose English skills (they're all immigrants) are elementary, even after living in this country for over 20 years. I nearly bloodied my tongue biting down so hard.

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
29. I went through same thing ...
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:52 PM
Oct 2016

With numerous friends. Hell my cousin, whom I love dearly, won't stop posting on Facebook about 'Killery' and Benghazi. It is all I can do to keep myself from unfriending her. Thanks, Trump, for dividing us. That's probably the one thing he does best.

 

Marc2010

(117 posts)
36. The one thing I have noticed with Trump fans:
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:58 PM
Oct 2016

They are finally stopping with the fakery and letting people know how they really feel and are finally being real about their hidden prejudices and biases

The Republican Party are finally showing who they really are

I feel that we at least owe Trump a thank you card, for that

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
69. Racism overt , covert or both is so wrong in anyone. Let alone a national figure.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

I thank him for nothing except in jest. He has the Alt Right working for him. He is not even fit to be a good US citizen.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
59. I just recently found out you can block certain "friends" posts,
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:01 PM
Oct 2016

Without unfriending them. They won't even know you've blocked their posts. I have a few on block and I'm sure I'm blocked on others.

izzybella

(236 posts)
32. I guess I am blessed.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:57 PM
Oct 2016

In the red state of Arizona, all of my friends are anti-Trump.

My relatives are the crazy ones.

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
34. I agree with the other responses here that say your ex-friend has shown you who he really is.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:57 PM
Oct 2016

Here's the kicker though: Trump is allowing many Americans to let the rest of us know who they really are. It's rather disturbing, but as they say "sunlight is the best disinfectant".

I run around in a pretty diverse group across the political spectrum, and up to the point of Trump's nomination those on the right griped and complained, but if they had hatred at their core they kept it well hidden. Trump's blatant misogyny and bigotry has somehow made it acceptable in the minds of some of our fellow citizens to allow their own feelings of intolerance and hate to become part of their puplic display. Well that's actually ok as far as I'm concerned because now I know with whom I am truly dealing with and can act accordingly.

Maybe some day these people will come to their senses and realize that they were taken by a conman and grifter, and who knows, maybe they'll come to understand that the GOP could give a bucket of spit about them, but in the meantime I will automatically discount the opinion of anybody who supports Trump.

blm

(113,057 posts)
40. He'll/She'll eventually wend their way back. Few can stay that ignorant for so long that they would
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:06 PM
Oct 2016

give up a real friendship.

After the election he'll begin hearing more of the truth from those closer to the campaign.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
41. My policy is to be okay with friends who VOTE Trump, just not those who SUPPORT him
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:25 PM
Oct 2016

I have Republican friends who "just can't stand Hillary" blah blah blah.
Most of them won't vote at all, but a few will probably hold their noses and vote Trump because, as I heard one con on an MSNBC focus group say "He might be a jackass, but if he's the jackass leading the conservative wagon train, so be it." Okay, fine, not worth losing a friend over.

But people who actually LIKE him and LIKE what he says? No, thank you. Don't need that in my life.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
44. Yah. I'm not a hypocrite either
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:41 PM
Oct 2016

If some ridiculous fringe wackjob ever becomes the Dem nominee I'd vote for them even against a more moderate Rep., because Republicans in power cause harm and Republicans in total control would maximize harm. I am well beyond Yellow Dog level. I understand people have the same attitude the other way around. They will vote for Trump to try to stop Clinton, just like I'd vote for, say, Cornel West to stop Ryan or whoever else they pick next. But to think that Trump, or West in the obverse, is a great and laudable choice for POTUS in and of themselves? Nuts is a kind term, especially in Trump's case (West at least has the advantage of intellect).

missingfink

(174 posts)
42. I used to have a life-long friend......
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:30 PM
Oct 2016

who was taken over by the darkside. At one time, he was a fun-loving out-going guy who changed over a period of time by watching and listening to right-wing radio and TV. He embraced every issue that he heard on these stations. He was always talking of privatization, taxes, postal workers, teachers, anti-anything liberal, etc. It was too much - I couldn't take it any longer and am much better off without his constant negativity towards Obama (who he never gave any credit and would imprison if he could) & the Dems.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
43. Fuck him
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:39 PM
Oct 2016

Is my attitude,I have pissed off prolly 95% of the resident idiots at the bar I frequent(4-5 nights a week) to the point they wont talk to me anymore.Known most of them all my life.

I still go, and me and the three or four friends I have left get a table and talk loud enough they can hear how stupid Trump is,but refuse to engage any more.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
45. Yah being a non-RWNJ bargoer is a trial
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
Oct 2016

I'm not physically capable of defending myself any more so I have to be more careful than I used to be, but I still try to correct the less belligerent loons when I can. Jade Helm was my favorite.... I'm not confronting hardcore Trumpers much as they are too big of a risk in volatility, QED.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
47. Unfortunately Trump is a friendship buster
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 04:50 PM
Oct 2016

He's probably causing entire families to break up.

And I'm not kidding when I say it may cause the country to split apart for real.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. I giggle with bemusement at anyone who predicates friendship
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 05:00 PM
Oct 2016

I giggle with bemusement at anyone who predicates friendship wholly (or even more than a small portion) on the preference of candidate or a party.

But I do realize that in youth, a small distemper of passion often outweighs the most solid of judgement.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
72. The OPs issue is much beyond preference though. We're talking vocal rabid support of bigotry here.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

As well as wishes for death? I'be only experienced similar from friends of friends and nope, it is a deal breaker. Someone with that need to be hateful and obnoxious will never be my friend. I can see forgiving it in a very old parent perhaps, but any of my peers I'd recommend they get help for their anger. Actually I have, lol.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
50. "hope somebody kills me"
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 05:56 PM
Oct 2016

a real friend would never say that. I know you are feeling low, but you don't deserve people like that in your life.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
52. He may be having doubts,
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:04 PM
Oct 2016

And he needed you to be for Trump, so he wouldn't have to heed the doubts.

I try to be patient with people about politics...its hard to know what is in their mind.

My friends know exactly where I stand, so any Trump supporters keep a wide berth. And , I let them know that they are welcome to cast their vote for whosoever they please.

To me, he is not worth losing a friend over.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
60. Think of it a lot like a divorce...
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:25 PM
Oct 2016

except you don't have to pay child support...

Just break contact for good and move on with your life, my friend.

This person was not a friend and never will be for you.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
66. I hope when Hillary wins, he'll be constantly
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:27 PM
Oct 2016

Looking over his shoulder wondering if someone is going to kill him for supporting drumfp.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
70. A lot of us have lost friends and family members this way...
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 01:51 PM
Oct 2016

you're not alone. Cold comfort I'm sure, but anyone with judgment that lacking is better off out of your life, either permanently or temporarily while they regroup and show genuine remorse for those horrible words.

You've known him for 20 years. Is he a Johnny-come-lately to politics, or did you once see the political parties the way he still does? If the latter, he probably feels as if you've lost your way, when in fact your eyes are now open.

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
80. That's a shame.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 05:32 PM
Oct 2016

But a success for the Republican Party.

My RW-nut brother-in-law and I have an unspoken agreement not to let the republican party divide the family. We focus on what we have in common. It's kind of a game, but it's been working for almost 2 decades now.

For people like your ex-friend, Trump has to be elected for him to find out that he was duped.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
84. You are better off without him.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

His willingness to throw away 20 years of friendship over someone like Trump says a lot about his character imo.

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