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Check.
Not something we talk about...because its humiliating. I don't think most men have any idea how common this is. I recently attended a convention of executives that shared space with the HUGE 5 year national Plumbers Union convention. The plumbers and pipe fitters were gentlemen. The execs were gropers. I(late 50's) and my 45 year old female co-worker were both groped. Our 28 year old co-worker was groped AND stalked. Nothing of us were drunk etc. and this happened within an hour of the start of a vendor hosted reception.
Fun tip- shouting "get your fucking hands off me" solves the problem, stat.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)Small Accumulates
(149 posts)whathehell
(29,835 posts)watrwefitinfor
(1,404 posts)Groped at age 11 by my aunt's husband - a preacher.
Silent about it for 40 years.
Mostly afraid no one would believe me.
Wat
Happyhippychick
(8,422 posts)Vinca
(51,144 posts)It's happened to all of us at some point.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)AirmensMom
(14,816 posts)And now I'm nervous.
Walking down a hallway at work, salesman came up rubbed his hands all over my rear end. The men in the shop were true gentlemen. The higher ups were NOT. Computer programmer did the same. To me and others. I saw him in action. Not one single man in the machine shop OR foundry did that. Just the white collar guys.
Granny M
(1,395 posts)More than one check, I'm afraid. I'd also like to check for my Mom, may she rest in peace, and also for a few other women who have passed on, as well. We might tell each other, but we mostly kept quiet.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)prairierose
(2,147 posts)moosewhisperer
(114 posts)Many times. Guess I was "asking for it"...by riding public transportation to and from high school.
ms liberty
(9,854 posts)femmedem
(8,445 posts)I was a barmaid, walking up some stairs with a tray full of beers, when I felt some guy pinch my butt. Since my hands were full, I reflexively kicked him and kept walking.
The next time I saw him (he was a regular, and that was the first time he'd behaved badly) I apologized for kicking him. He told me not to apologize, he deserved it, and that he hadn't pinched me: he'd bitten me.
Also been raped, but that's another story.
Control-Z
(15,684 posts)While bending down to a low table with a full tray of drinks one of the guys bit me on the ass. He was humming the theme from "Jaws".
cry baby
(6,779 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)Also escaped a rape attempt when I was 13
greatauntoftriplets
(176,925 posts)CrispyQ
(38,405 posts)When I was younger it was called goosing & we were told by our PE instructor that it was a compliment. Circa mid-70s.
CottonBear
(21,615 posts)At work and while traveling.
PunkinPi
(5,005 posts)lark
(24,260 posts)groped while walking by some random guy on the street, grabbed by my p***y at a bar.
Oh yeah, escaped rape only because guy was drunk and I was't. I became a rape counselor to try and help others not as lucky.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)when I was active duty Navy. An "officer and a gentleman" (Academy grad/pilot) broke into my quarters in the BOQ. I didn't even bother to notify my command, as I knew it wouldn't do any good. I'd already had a run in with my CO because he was trying to pimp out the single female officers to the men at the Officers' Club.
somethingshiny
(40 posts)By a doctor, at age 15. He was doing sports physicals at my high school.
Sports physicals do not normally involve a breast exam. Never told anyone, and it was years later when I finally realized I'd been molested.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,442 posts)Danmel
(5,244 posts)iamateacher
(1,104 posts)Check.
radical noodle
(8,726 posts)Multiple times
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I kicked my groper where it hurts. Last I saw of him, he was slumped against a water heater.
Teach your daughters that it is okay to fight back. That's what my brothers taught me.
CountAllVotes
(21,093 posts)Actually it was my late mother that gave me this advice.
She said kick 'em in the middle. If they don't go down the first time, kick 'em again and yowza! They will go down! She was absolutely right. I wonder why she knew ...
Kind of sad in retrospect eh?
& recommend.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)You won't be strong enough to punch him away. Women's legs are normally the strongest part of their body. If they come up behind you, stomp on their shins and feet. If they are in front of you, go for the groin. Either way, they let go, and you get away. And, you must act quickly, because the longer the situation, the greater his advantage.
Ms. Toad
(35,569 posts)and end by stomping hard on the arch. Make every movement a specific intentional act to do the most damage you can.
Thanks to the street fighting class I took. I'll spare you all the descriptions of attacking the face.
MountainMazza
(312 posts)yellerpup
(12,263 posts)And worse.
arithia
(455 posts)multiple times as a kid, several times as an adult.
Second job I ever had, the manager liked to slide up in back of the lady employees and put his chin on our shoulders to watch us count the registers. The whole time, he would rub his junk on our butts. Dude was so arrogant, he would do this in front of customers. If anyone verbally reacted, they were fired for causing a scene. If you pushed him away, he used the excuse of your sudden and "erratic" movement while counting the drawer as an attempt at theft... and fired you.
You know those kitchy embroidery floss hair wraps that periodically become popular? Turns out that when you weave jagged bits of metal into them (I went with tiny golden stars) and do a hair toss, your boss can't complain when he's lacerated by a hair accessory. 0=)
Freddie
(9,715 posts)Went to a professor's office to turn in a paper. On my way out he grabbed me from behind and fondled my breasts. Was too shocked to say or do anything, just left. It was the 70's. My fault for wearing a tight sweater. I never told anybody about it except my husband years later.
The professor had a long and illustrious career at the university, retired as Emeritus with many honors. Makes me sick. How many students did he grope who couldn't do a thing about it (in those days)?
Trump has opened up a Pandora's box with women.
Rorey
(8,513 posts)Because of the publicity all of his assaults have finally gotten, there are many women and girls (and boys!) who now WILL speak out because it's NOT okay and it's also NEVER their fault. Now we have to make sure that Donald Trump goes down in flames, and not only politically, but in every way. He truly deserves to be destroyed, along with all of his enablers. His family, his staff, and every person who stood idly by while he committed the assaults, or even joked about assaulting.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)I couldn't disagree more with your statement. "My fault for wearing a tight sweater." You could've been wearing a bikini or a burka, it is NOT your fault for being attacked. It is the perpetrator's fault.
Freddie
(9,715 posts)No doubt that's what I would have been told at the time.
Duppers
(28,256 posts)I still remember his name: Dr. Isaacs, English lit. It was in the 60's, so I know he's not teaching now.
Rorey
(8,513 posts)I learned to avert early on, but failed at aversion a few times. I think I learned to be defensive because of an attempt by a pedophile when I was about five years old. My dad saved me, but it was a profound experience.
s-cubed
(1,385 posts)tblue37
(66,035 posts)Greybnk48
(10,407 posts)Several times.
redwitch
(15,083 posts)I have a feeling I will be one of a vast number.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)mothra1orbit
(231 posts)mothra1orbit
(231 posts)first time age 12 fingered from behind at a museum. Told my parents, who said the "poor guy" probably thought I was leading him on when I moved away. 1959.
carpediem
(727 posts)FarPoint
(13,663 posts)Used my survivor skills
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Years ago in the workplace, I was assaulted by an active duty army officer who entered my office, leaned over me while I was working at my desk (effectively pinning me there) and stuck his tongue in my ear. I smacked him and yelled to get the hell away from me which made him stop.
I decided to report him and ultimately, had him transferred but only after enduring blame from others. He was not reprimanded however.
There have been other instances through the years - male coworkers who like to hug me - crap like that.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Chemisse
(31,004 posts)I suspect there are few - if any - women who have NOT been sexually assaulted in some way during their lives.
IronLionZion
(47,024 posts)Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)nolabear
(43,271 posts)And, hopefully, mate.
pnwmom
(109,600 posts)womanofthehills
(9,304 posts)Many times
okaawhatever
(9,544 posts)LittleGirl
(8,454 posts)too many to count actually. And I'm not even pretty (but don't tell my Mother that).
Qanisqineq
(4,827 posts)When I was a teenager, a guy on the school bus would regularly grab me when I walked by or put his hand on my seat as I was sitting down. I reported it. His friend then started doing it but I didn't report it due to the backlash from reporting the first guy.
yardwork
(64,570 posts)liberal N proud
(60,967 posts)I am afraid to ask my daughters, I would be even more enraged.
I would never think of touching a woman or man for that part if it was not welcomed.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)This past week has brought up a lot of painful memories that I had suppressed.
TrogL
(32,825 posts)spooky3
(36,295 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)DLevine
(1,789 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)raccoon
(31,477 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,718 posts)Groped, hugged, harrassed....
sinkingfeeling
(53,106 posts)Chalco
(1,360 posts)On a bus when I was 16 was the first time. I never told anyone. It was too disgusting. Plus at that time, 1962, it was
always excused with "Boys, will be boys. They can't help themselves once they get excited."
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Teenage boys were the absolute worst regarding grabbing or pinching my ass, or even grabbing my boob as they walked by in the hallway (in mostly the 8th grade, at school.)
My older sister's husband walked in on me while I was taking a bath. He drew the shower curtain away, stared at my naked 14 or 15 year old body for about 10 seconds, then left the room.
At age 17, my other older sister's husband said I was hot and my sister repeated it to me. Why did she tell me, I wonder?
Nobody ever molested me, I am lucky to say. But I have had more than my fair share of sexual harrassment, daily, just for being a 25-ish blond woman in the Mission District in San Francisco. Yes it's true, some cultures do more catcalling than others.
But the worst sexual harrassment, in general, was whenever I walked down the side of the road. It was men of all range of ages.
But have I ever gotten groped, unwantedly? Probably 20 to 50 times in my life.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)you were lucky not to be raped
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I don't feel like my story is that much different from the many women I have talked with. It's like, no big deal, right?
Motley13
(3,867 posts)at 13 by my cousin, twice, He was about 28 & married.
at 19 by my boss, not groped, but kissed. He was bringing me home after a meeting & parked the car. It didn't happen again, but I saw the signs that happened to others.
hopeforchange2008
(610 posts)MsLeopard
(1,281 posts)Duppers
(28,256 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)
The time a total stranger groped me when I was alone with him really freaked me out.
The more common offense:
I've had both a boss, two neighbors, and a professional person who would place their hands right at the very edge of appropriateness making me very uncomfortable. They knew what they were doing. Perhaps some men don't, such as Joe Biden and W. Bush were caught doing a few times. I think they just intended friendship? But often men are checking to see how you'd respond...looking for a "go ahead" signal perhaps?
I think most women know what I'm talking about. And this is an all too common offense. And often just too subtle and awkward to warrant an outright slap.
Edited to add an attempted rape. Please don't stone me but my hubs insisted I pack a tiny, palm-sized ...err...handgun with me to work, which I pulled out of my purse and stuck in his face. Damn, was I shaking. I told him to leave and as soon as he was out the door, I locked it and called the police. He was drunk. They got him on a DWI and reckless driving and kept him in jail long enough for him to be fired from his job. My boss saw to that. I never pressed any charges as just knowing he had lost his job seemed enough for me at the time. I was 26.
(Btw, please don't go there because I support gun control.)
riverbendviewgal
(4,322 posts)Emilybemily
(204 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Tess49
(1,598 posts)Siwsan
(27,318 posts)I was in the military. Need I say more?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I was at a very crowded frat party (ugh) and the guy behind me in line for the bar kept grabbing my bum. After asking him to knock it off a few times, I had finally had it. I turned around and grabbed his crotch as hard as I could. The look of shock on his face was priceless. Needless to say, I had no more problems with him that evening.
Duppers
(28,256 posts)Made me laugh.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)But was still sober enough to know what I was doing.
OregonBlue
(7,935 posts)Sunsky
(1,876 posts)Numerous times. My social life has taken a hit and I now only go social events that husband will attend. Despicable.
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tenderfoot
(8,824 posts)it wasn't welcome.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)I entered the work force in the early 70s. It was something you put up with in order to keep your job. If you complained you were made fun of or let go.
babydollhead
(2,246 posts)kimbutgar
(23,426 posts)My older sister and I were cleaning out our Mothers closet and talked about our numerous groping incidents when we were young. There were too many times. She is 66 and I am 60.
LeftInTX
(30,198 posts)As a teenager. None as an adult
The strangest was by my grandfather. The entire family was in the living room watching football - including me and my grandfather. He commented about how I was growing up, then suddenly grabbed my breast in front of everyone. Everyone saw it. My dad yelled and yelled at him. It turned into quite a scene.
Us girls all ran into another room and we laughed about it for several hours, because it was so brazen and strange. My grandfather died a few weeks later, so I never had to face him again. (Maybe he was losing his faculties when he did this) This is my last memory of him.
After he died, my grandmother would tell me stories about his serial groping and all sorts of stuff.
ETA: The other gropings occurred with classmates and were extremely painful, emotionally. Happened at school: on the bus, in the stairs, at my locker. It was just awful and I felt dirty. I always felt it was my fault. It was awful.
Ms. Toad
(35,569 posts)Starting around age 11
Brother
Stranger (in a swimming pool, with my parents nearby)
Classmate (in a classroom, surrounded by ~25 classmates)
Stranger (on public transportation)
and those are just the specific incidents I can recall prior to reaching adult-hood.
sagetea
(1,440 posts)Groped and oh so, so much more. Yikes!
raven mad
(4,940 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)I threw a heavy ashtray at his head. His office was the only place in a 20-floor building where smoking was allowed - only by him of course.
It connected, and since I had a recording going, I left and saved the cassette.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(121,168 posts)I wonder what a thread of women who have never been groped would look like? I think it would be
*crickets*
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)Never been groped. Cat calls, hollered at, yes.
sarae
(3,284 posts)Piasladic
(1,162 posts)Womaninabinder
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LisaM
(28,676 posts)I once had my breasts grabbed by a self-professed "boob checker". But it most often happened in the pool when swimming laps. Over and over and over.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Difficult to know just who it was. I wouldn't want to just scream out and accuse all the men around me.
Staph
(6,353 posts)One of my claims to fame is having my butt patted by an ancient Strom Thurmond.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)Many times, starting around the age of 5 or 6, when I was fondled by a neighbor's boyfriend. In each instance (except for the attempted rape when I was in the Navy-my CO would have blamed me, and my career would have been ruined), I reported the situation to the appropriate adult. I always had my parents support.
Others, like my church youth group counselors, not so much-I was grilled by them about what I had done to make the boys do that. Never got over that, as I really looked up to, and trusted those two. She was the the Director of Christian Education, and he was the summer interim student pastor, and I was about 12 or 13 at the time. I thought my mother was going to kill them when I told her about it. Don't think I've ever seen her quite so angry.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)irisblue
(34,348 posts)I was 19 & studying @ the main Grand Rapids public library. I was sitting @a study desk, head down reading.The groper, who I did not see until he put his hand on my left thigh was bent down as if he was looking for a book on a low shelf. I stood immediately and screamed FIRE as loudly as I could. I never told anyone till now.
KT2000
(20,887 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)Many times!
I guess they thought I was an easy target being disabled.
DLevine
(1,789 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)This past week has caused me to actually become ill.
The triggering has been strong.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)But reading the comments is bringing up lots of long forgotten things.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I believe it is good to see that we are not alone and that even if it happened one time 30 years ago, it still hurts today.
Lady_Chat
(561 posts)And worse, also raped. Till this day, so very difficult to even talk about.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
Once in India ( the "P" kind), so probably doesn't count. Several times by men in positions of power at work.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)All the way back to as young as 5th grade by an older neighbor of one of my friends.
But what I was most subjected to was vulgar talk, either towards me or around me by guys. Believe me, "locker room talk" is common in some parts of the country, still to this day. I witnessed it as recently as Labor Day weekend back home visiting in the midwest, rural farming town. The women even laugh at it.
Warpy
(113,131 posts)Extra points for riding subways. "Hands off, you fucking pervert!" in a stage voice worked for me, especially when I was wearing shoes with hard heels and paired it with a stomp to his instep.
I wasn't humiliated as much as outraged.
Zippyzagnut
(77 posts)having to relive it 50 years later. Trump is nothing more than slimy pond scum.
Rhythm
(5,435 posts)susanna
(5,231 posts)narnian60
(3,510 posts)MFM008
(20,008 posts)At age 7 and an adult.
LiberalLoner
(10,205 posts)Old Vet
(2,001 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Boomerproud
(8,426 posts)household items (my mom was friends with his mom) and he turned into a park and took out his penis and said "Will you give it some sweet kisses." Somehow I kept my composure and said "There's a ranger right over there and I don't know you." He just shrugged and said "OK". I only told my best friend.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Any woman that has been molested knows Trump is a creepy predator.
I have deep respect for the women who are bravely coming forward. They're putting their safety at risk to do what's right for our Country.
Hamlette
(15,539 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)that would be most women I would think.
wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)More than once.
raccoon
(31,477 posts)frogmarch
(12,229 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)Ilsa
(62,260 posts)The satisfaction alone would make taking up smoking worthwhile.
roody
(10,849 posts)Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)Akacia
(630 posts)Portland_Anni
(164 posts)However, I am a Passible transgender woman who used to do hard labor in the woods in Oregon and was in a Combat Arms job my last enlistment in the U.S. Army. I kicked his ass pretty good. Sometimes men jus pick on the wrong woman.
Solly Mack
(92,981 posts)while flicking his tongue in and out and ask us to sit on his face.
If he caught a woman waiting for something, he'd hit the floor, slide between her legs, grab her ankles and then say it.
And he wasn't the worst. The other boss would corner women in supply closets and push them against the wall while his hands went everywhere.
We sued the company. Won - but it didn't matter.
Skittles
(159,787 posts)ask him if his nose is bigger than his dick
Solly Mack
(92,981 posts)I did say excuse me though. Claimed I didn't know he was there.
He and the company were sued. Turned out he got moved around a lot, much like some priests.
mnmoderatedem
(3,845 posts)Solly Mack
(92,981 posts)Control-Z
(15,684 posts)So many times I couldn't list them all.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)stage left
(3,021 posts)And then I remembered walking home from school and the older boy who threw me now in the middle of the street and kissed me. My mother, who was shadowing me to make sure I got home safely, gave him what for. I was six.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)lupinella
(365 posts)HeartlandDem
(80 posts)Multiple times. That said, I know many wonderful men who would never dream of doing the things sleazo trump admits to much less saying the disrespectful things he's stated.
TygrBright
(20,987 posts)kanda
(186 posts)Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Warded him off by calling 911, almost went through my big exterior door. Still don't know who it was but he seemingly knew me.
d to put in many surveillance cam, including remote ones so I could know if I could get to my door within being ambushed and also take good pictures of this creep
fierywoman
(8,122 posts)especially in the metro in mexico city. is there a thread for men exposing themselves in front of us?
Ilsa
(62,260 posts)Groped, molested, assaulted, etc.
oftheforest
(45 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,474 posts)And I am currently involved in a interesting Facebook discussion with a number of women talking about their own experiences.
fierywoman
(8,122 posts)... who in one of those years won the award from the American String Teacher's Association as the best violin teacher of the year. I was very "privileged/lucky to study with him". He kept trying to kiss me on the lips. After I caught on to what he was doing, the next time he lunged at me (in the middle of my Mozart concerto) I took a giant step backward. He yelled, "Get out, go home and never come back!" My mother believed me and found a new teacher.
The guys who grabbed me ("p" in the metro in Mexico City I would slap very hard across the face (think: whip crackling) and yell PINCHE PENDEJO CABRON! And all the women in the metro car would laugh with me (a gringa) at him.
Skittles
(159,787 posts)IMMEDIATLEY
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,036 posts)Like so many here, more than once, starting when I was not far into my teens by my best friend's father. Ugh.
ALBliberal
(2,873 posts)Mira
(22,481 posts)senegal1
(551 posts)mshasta
(2,108 posts)Demonaut
(9,102 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)It's a dead certainty that some sick fuck is at least chuckling about them liebrul bitches getting what they deserve, if not jerking off.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)catrose
(5,240 posts)ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)Pachamama
(17,017 posts)In college by a head coach for a sports team while in the equipment room, at a party for my kid's school by a very drunk father of a classmate of my child and then the sexual assault in an elevator by a security guard who threatened me.
LostinRed
(844 posts)When I was in eighth grade I snapped a girls bra. My teacher took me aside and told me that is the behavior predator and is inexcusable. I never forgot that and have never behaved so badly again.
rabbitinred
(4 posts)choir teacher would take me into center room, have me lie down on piano bench so he could check my "diaphragm" to be sure i was breathing correctly while singing. I have always wondered why the piano bench in the classromm wouldn't suffice.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)I am a husband, with 2 daughters, aged 22 and 28, and I am appalled that we even nee this thread. I am saddened for all of you who were sexually assaulted, and dont kid yourselves, unwanted touching is sexual assault. My thoughts are for everyone this happened to. NOW.. WE NEED TO GOTV AND NOT ALLOW TRUMP ELECTED. No sexual predictors allowed ever again.
Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)I was fondled by a long-time female friend when we were all at a tourist type eatery/bar, and she reached over and groped my genitals and I threw a complete fit at her and said who the hell do you think you are grabbing my dick! She laughed! I never went with her anywhere again. If we had any form of an intimate relationship or such, then her actions would be forgiven, but there was nothing that would excuse her actions, and laughing.
I also was rubbed up against then groped by a disgusting woman while singing one of my favorite songs at a concert, which now has THAT memory attached to it because of her sleaze.
I make this point because a friend's psych told him that women do not sexually assault men, and reading the threat title quickly it seemed like a check-in for people who have been groped. Many people have stories.
Sorry to see there's so many...
salin
(48,958 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)babylonsister
(171,645 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,529 posts)Tracer
(2,769 posts)In a movie theater with my older sister and another girl friend.
Creepy man sat on my left and started touching my leg. I tried to squeeze away from him towards my sister, but he wouldn't quit.
Finally got up my nerve to turn around and face him, and he immediately got up and ran out of the theater.
There are more instances, but I'll keep it to the first.
Generic Other
(29,000 posts)I used my fists.
appleannie1
(5,203 posts)catbyte
(35,874 posts)It was 35 years years ago, and I can't believe how quickly the awful experience came rushing back. I hadn't thought about it in years, but the memory spewed up to the surface so strongly that it shocked me. I don't think I'm the only woman who had that reaction.
OBrien
(366 posts)onecaliberal
(36,126 posts)appleannie1
(5,203 posts)and a fellow in a suit and tie came in alone for dinner. Every time I passed his booth he sort of reached out and touched my butt so lightly that the first time I thought it was my imagination. When I realized he was really doing it, I walked out of my way to other tables to avoid him. When his spaghetti dinner was ready, I 'accidentally' tripped as I approached his table and dumped his spaghetti right down the front of him. I then grabbed a napkin and mashed it into his white shirt and suit jacket as I told him how sorry I was. My boss saw it and came over and said the business would pay to have the suit cleaned. He then came into the kitchen and asked "What on earth did he do to you?". I told him. He then said "I figured he had done something he should not have" "Bet he will think twice before doing that to some other waitress" and walked out of the kitchen. I was very, very lucky because most bosses would have fired a waitress for doing something like that.
mercuryblues
(15,138 posts)tosh
(4,450 posts)Sadly, it has always seemed to be "just a fact of life", another survival skill to master.