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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:07 PM Oct 2016

It is heartsickening to see America go down this road.

To watch a big portion of our people follow such an indecent and vulgar person down into such a pit is very depressing. It is understandable why some people are despondent.

He has already done great damage to our nation. His name-calling, his uncouth manners, his lack of humanity, his callousness and lack of empathy, and his crude remarks cannot be undone.

I feel sorry for our country. I have lost respect for many of our fellow citizens. That makes me very sad. There are those that believe Hillary Clinton has murdered 49 people that were close to her, maybe more? How did this ever come about?

I feel like I need to take a shower for simply talking with them on the computer .

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It is heartsickening to see America go down this road. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2016 OP
The party of Lincoln does not want to follow Donald Trump. Coyotl Oct 2016 #1
Wow... TeeYiYi Oct 2016 #7
White ... Jopin Klobe Oct 2016 #15
Who would have thought that Jeff Murdoch Oct 2016 #2
I would much rather have President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho than DJT any day! FrodosPet Oct 2016 #8
That never gets old. lovemydog Oct 2016 #13
That was my Halloween costume this year Rocknrule Oct 2016 #35
We've had 40 years of vile, disgusting hateful assholes dominating AM radio. Initech Oct 2016 #4
Bingo wryter2000 Oct 2016 #5
Not sure 'reality' is a proper description of where they live ;) brett_jv Oct 2016 #14
...and I'm afraid T.V. Newz is already following the same path. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #24
At least I'm glad Fox News' ratings have been in the toilet since.... Initech Oct 2016 #29
Also the dumbing down of a certain GWC58 Oct 2016 #33
I know people who *LOVE* Duck Dynasty Initech Oct 2016 #34
Probably the same voters who supported torture, so really, it is neither shocking Solly Mack Oct 2016 #6
Some of them clean up very well lillypaddle Oct 2016 #9
I've said from the beginning that this election is a referendum ON the state of American citizens. Trust Buster Oct 2016 #10
how did this come about? decades of propaganda from the media, decades of schools not niyad Oct 2016 #11
My theory is that it really started in 1964. Stonepounder Oct 2016 #16
that is an excellent point niyad Oct 2016 #18
Schools do teach critical thinking. duffyduff Oct 2016 #23
teaching history???? have you been following the crap in texas, in nd, for what the reichwingnuts niyad Oct 2016 #38
How did this ever come about? Andy823 Oct 2016 #17
i agree. barbtries Oct 2016 #19
Growing Pains The River Oct 2016 #20
I hope you are right. nt raccoon Oct 2016 #28
Don't let the door hit yer teaparty azz flamingdem Oct 2016 #21
If any president ever gets impeached and removed, it would be Trump if elected duffyduff Oct 2016 #22
You know that parable about the frog being dropped in extremely hot water smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #25
I've lost respect for about 1/2 of this country. If Trump were to win, I'm seriously considering RKP5637 Oct 2016 #27
i think these folks have always been 'out there'. they've never had a spokesperson who talks..... spanone Oct 2016 #30
Uber. kentuck Oct 2016 #31
⚡️😡 uber uber!...😎 spanone Oct 2016 #32
if somehow Trump is elected, all I know, is this country deserves him Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #36
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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. The party of Lincoln does not want to follow Donald Trump.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:09 PM
Oct 2016

Good Americans are rejecting him in droves. How can they not despise him?

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
7. Wow...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:34 PM
Oct 2016

That man is NOT well. His eyes are seriously sanpaku. I wonder how old he was in this picture.

Sanpaku eyes (yin) point to danger from the outside world. I guess we know how that turned out...

TYY

Initech

(100,076 posts)
4. We've had 40 years of vile, disgusting hateful assholes dominating AM radio.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:22 PM
Oct 2016

Donald Trump is the end result of what happens when you have one side dominating people and telling them how to think, what to vote on, and who to vote for that this is what it's come to. People like the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Fox News and Infowars tell people how to think. And this is how you get Donald Trump. Bill Maher was right a few weeks back when he said that we have nothing in common anymore. If we want to restore America we need to be united.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
14. Not sure 'reality' is a proper description of where they live ;)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:35 PM
Oct 2016

But I know what you're saying.

Wingers actually believe it's possible for people have 'different facts' ... like that's actually a real thing. 'You have your facts, I have mine' I've heard more than one of them say.

Ummm ... that's NOT actually how things work, people.

Ultimately, the real problem is: you can't fix 'stupid'.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
29. At least I'm glad Fox News' ratings have been in the toilet since....
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
Oct 2016

Roger Ailes was exposed as being a sexist asshole.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
33. Also the dumbing down of a certain
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:45 PM
Oct 2016

portion of citizens with "stellar" shows like Duck Dynasty and Honey Boo Boo, to name a few. Arts&Entertainment is not artistic, nor is it entertaining. By the way what happened to all the history on The History Channel?🤔😳😫

Initech

(100,076 posts)
34. I know people who *LOVE* Duck Dynasty
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:20 PM
Oct 2016

I want to throw up every time I see those people. Phil Robertson is a disgusting piece of shit.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
6. Probably the same voters who supported torture, so really, it is neither shocking
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:32 PM
Oct 2016

nor surprising.

Sadly.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
9. Some of them clean up very well
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:31 PM
Oct 2016

like Paul Ryan, for example. One might even be tempted to think he is a "normal" person. However, he and Mitch McConnell and Trump are all the same on the inside. Don't be fooled.

Not sure what got us here. It goes back to Reagan, and then GW. In retrospect, they too seem normal. The new normal = not Donald Trump.

We need to stick together. For our own sanity, and for the sake of our country. We can't give up or give in.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
10. I've said from the beginning that this election is a referendum ON the state of American citizens.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 06:33 PM
Oct 2016

The term "American Exceptionalism" embarrasses me because I know otherwise.

niyad

(113,312 posts)
11. how did this come about? decades of propaganda from the media, decades of schools not
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:14 PM
Oct 2016

actually teaching critical thinking, history and civics, decades of mindless games, tv, etc., just to name a few.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
16. My theory is that it really started in 1964.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:50 PM
Oct 2016

That's when LBJ pushed the Civil Rights Act through Congress and Signed it into law. At the time he commented that as a result, "We have lost the South for a generation". Prior to 1964 the Democratic party was the party of segregation and Jim Crow and the South voted solidly for Democrats, earning the sobriquet "The Solid South". LBJ, from Texas, changed that with the Civil Rights Law. The Republicans saw an opening and Nixon developed "The Southern Strategy", veering rapidly to the right and embracing Jim Crow and segregation.

Couple that with the rise of Conservative talk radio and the likes of Limburger, Beck, Hannity along with FAUX News and you had a perfect petri dish for the likes of tRump. Someone who, along with insulting just about everyone on the planet, didn't know what a Gold Star family was, probably didn't know what the Purple Heart was awarded for, has no idea of the destructive power of nuclear weapons, and honestly believes that he is the greatest mortal of all time. Remember, this is a guy who claimed that when he was about 15 he was (actual quote) "The best baseball player in New York." Bear in mind that was the year the Yankees won the World Series with a line-up that included Whitey Ford, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, and Yogi Berra.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
23. Schools do teach critical thinking.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

Just so you know. Not a bunch of college-level philosophical bullshit, but they are taught it as appropriate for grade level as early as the primary grades when they are taught the difference between fact and opinion and what propaganda is.

They are taught as early as kindergarten the difference between fact and opinion. This is at the root of critical thinking, to be able to tell the difference.


They don't tell kids WHAT to think either way. Teachers who do that are disciplined for it, let me tell you.

When children are asked to pick a side for discussing an issue, they are required to explain why they think that way and have evidence to support their thinking.

It isn't schools that are to blame for attitudes.

Almost all political attitudes stem from the home.

And yes, they do teach history in the schools, just not the Howard Zinn version of history.

niyad

(113,312 posts)
38. teaching history???? have you been following the crap in texas, in nd, for what the reichwingnuts
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 06:02 PM
Oct 2016

are trying to put into the history books and pass off as "history", and what they want to eliminate? it isn't even on the same planet as howard zinn. I was on the texas textbook committee decades ago, when this crap started, and it is only getting worse.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
17. How did this ever come about?
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:52 PM
Oct 2016

Fox news and talk show radio like Rush Limbaugh. They are the ones who have been feeding people a steady diet of hate, and republicans have been eating it up since the Clinton years. Rush made his millions from bashing the Clintons on a daily basis, and Fox, well we all know how sick they are.

They sowed the seeds, and Trump came along and took control of the whole mess, and brought it all the front, out in the open for all to see. Those people have always been there over the years since it started, but they didn't have someone like Trump to cultivate their hate, and use if for his own lust for power, and revenge. Trump has given them what they wanted, a candidate that supports their hate, their racism, sexism, etc and now the GOP is pretending they just don't know how this is happened.

Yes the damage is done, the question now is what happens to Trump and his followers after the election. Trump has done a great deal of damage to his image and business's and I expect him to find a way to fleece the "sheep" that he has following him to get some of his money back, one way or another. As for the sheep, well most of them are just gullible enough to give him what little money they do have in hopes the can still lead them into their fantasy world, whatever the hell that might be, but in a few years they will see through his BS con job, probably when they have all spent their life savings donating to him, and then they will be more miserable than they are now.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
19. i agree.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:09 PM
Oct 2016

this election has really disturbed my peace of mind. i never really thought we as a nation could sink this low. boy was i wrong. and i attribute 95% of the blame to republicans. i really don't think that most of them even want the world they're trying to force on us all.

The River

(2,615 posts)
20. Growing Pains
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 02:20 PM
Oct 2016

America is on the verge of becoming a more egalitarian country.
Science and rationality are eclipsing fear and superstition as the old guard
fades into history and newer (and more ethnically diverse) generations take their place.
All of the hyper partisan nastiness we see is little more than a desperate last stand
attempt to hold back the tide of history and evolution.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
22. If any president ever gets impeached and removed, it would be Trump if elected
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 03:23 PM
Oct 2016

He is dangerous and unstable.

The GOP regulars don't want him now, and they would be out for blood if he ever got in.

Thank God it won't happen.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. You know that parable about the frog being dropped in extremely hot water
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 05:04 PM
Oct 2016

and jumping out right away, and then he sits in a pan of water that is turned up degree by degree until he cooks to death?

That is what I feel the US has become. We have become so used to extreme right wing bullshit that we don't even recognize how harmful it has become. Slowly this nation has been pushed toward the right and now it is at it's limit. We accept this as normal but it's not. It is so incredibly, phenomenally fucked up and we are so used to it that we cannot see what an extreme nation we have become.

Something has to change. We cannot go down like this.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
27. I've lost respect for about 1/2 of this country. If Trump were to win, I'm seriously considering
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 05:38 PM
Oct 2016

why the F I would want to spend the last of my days in a country like this. IMO, if Trump were president, it would just go farther downhill into violence across the world.

spanone

(135,833 posts)
30. i think these folks have always been 'out there'. they've never had a spokesperson who talks.....
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:17 PM
Oct 2016

like them. full of hatred of every kind and blaming america's problems on 'them'.

they are a sick lot that needs to be educated or......who knows?

trump won't win, but who knows four years from now?

eight years from now?

IT could happen here.

very scary.

media is uber powerful.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
36. if somehow Trump is elected, all I know, is this country deserves him
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:25 PM
Oct 2016

I don't think we will elect him, but ...

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