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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:37 PM Nov 2016

Can the Nate Silver bashing please stop?

I'm seeing a lot of people bash Nate Silver. Sure, his numbers for Trump are higher than we'd like right now, but let that be motivation to get out, vote, and get everyone else to do it too, and do it for Hillary Clinton.

Nate got 98% (49 states + DC) of electoral college jurisdictions right in 2008 and 100% (50 states + DC) of them right in 2012.

Could also be that Nate, unlike the other "journalists" out there, actually is showing humility given what happened in the GOP primaries. That's good, because most journalists and pundits make up a narrative when they're wrong. See the Perot-myth.

For President, I'm With Her.

For electoral forecasts, I'm with him.

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Can the Nate Silver bashing please stop? (Original Post) ericson00 Nov 2016 OP
He's getting bashed because he's obviously hedging his bets. He still has Hillary set to win, qdouble Nov 2016 #1
He may have got 100% in 2012... idziak4ever1234 Nov 2016 #2
I'll wait until sharp_stick Nov 2016 #5
Clinton has won that state and Cortez Masto will be in the Senate duffyduff Nov 2016 #7
As the old saying goes sharp_stick Nov 2016 #9
The good news is that Hillary is the favorite in his latest models andym Nov 2016 #8
knr. he's been right more than he's been wrong joeybee12 Nov 2016 #10
Trump screws up everything he touches. GeorgeGist Nov 2016 #11
Not a bash, but his stats have been very "noisy" this cycle. Stinky The Clown Nov 2016 #12
From what I know he tries to be unbiased. Kablooie Nov 2016 #13
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qdouble

(891 posts)
1. He's getting bashed because he's obviously hedging his bets. He still has Hillary set to win,
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:41 PM
Nov 2016

but weighing the polls in such a way that if he's wrong on anything, he can just claim it was a toss-up.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
7. Clinton has won that state and Cortez Masto will be in the Senate
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:09 PM
Nov 2016

Harry Reid has done a hell of lot to motivate Democrats in the state.

andym

(5,445 posts)
8. The good news is that Hillary is the favorite in his latest models
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:16 PM
Nov 2016

and he is standing by his models. Since there is some uncertainty it means WE can MAKE a difference by GOTV.
So go to it.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. knr. he's been right more than he's been wrong
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:24 PM
Nov 2016

He has to rely on the polling which I think is wrong because it's definition of likely voter is very different from past elections.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
12. Not a bash, but his stats have been very "noisy" this cycle.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 07:02 PM
Nov 2016

Noise being statistical static. The nature of this cycle is really unprecedented. The best of the polls move more than they ought to. Newer polls are often highly variable.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
13. From what I know he tries to be unbiased.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:15 PM
Nov 2016

To attack him because you don't like what his numbers tell you is what I would expect from Trumpistas, not us.

If you have a valid critique of his methods that's one thing but if he says Trump is moving up that's worrisome but about Trump not about Silver.

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